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Title: Give me 1 kill
Post by: mikev on December 14, 2015, 02:22:53 AM
i tell ya what we can talk about flying and ,SA, ACM, BCM but if i cant start hitting targets all i am ever going to be is A target.after about 40 flights tonight i finally got a kill but this is getting ridiculous. If i was to start hitting 1/2 the planes i am shooting at life would be so much easier . what good is SA, ACM, BCM if i cant hit anything. today i resorted to vulching and just about everything else for 1 crummy kill where i could of had 10 to 15. all i want for xmas is lazer guided bullets lol.  :bhead  getting shot down doesnt bother so much but missing targets all the time does. in 80 sorties so far this month i have 9 kills 8 of them were proxies. lucky for me i had the camera rolling and you can watch my 1 kill (lucky shot). i can fly in the offline area and blow them out of the sky no problem but in the MA i may as well be blindfolded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6BByGWjUwY
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: FESS67 on December 14, 2015, 05:29:36 AM
I have the same issue with being able to hit very accurately in the offline arena but online my aim is very poor.

My issue is likely an internet connection problem since I connect at 320 to 400ms.

The only things that really stood out for me in your video were:


My advice - slow her down and learn to get the shots first.  Sure you will get shot down more but you will also kill more.  Then as you get the feel of getting the kill you will be able to judge speeds and energy states better which will keep you safer.
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: Randy1 on December 14, 2015, 06:01:11 AM
Use Zoom.  Adjust it before take off.

You might try FOV setting in the 90s

Use a P-47.  Eight 50s is like a shotgun.

If it is a lead shot, I bet you are not leading enough.

Lusche always says "Get close then get closer."
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: Zoney on December 14, 2015, 10:42:59 AM
MikeV

Hang in there my friend.  Everyone and I mean everyone has to learn the hard way.  The whole point of playing a game that is extremely difficult is the joy and fun and excitement when you do get a kill.  Still, to this day, as I am dropping out of the sky from 35K at a bazillion miles an hour unto an unsuspecting victim, my heart starts hammering away in my chest.  That's when the hardest thing to do in the game must be done...............relax..... ......calm yourself................see the future of where your enemy will be and where your rounds need to be to kill him.  Squeeze that trigger gently with minimal input to your stick to keep the G's down.  Become one with your plane, one with the environment, one with the game.  Be the killer.
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: morfiend on December 14, 2015, 03:13:06 PM
Mike,

  how long have I been flying? well alot longer than you and I still cant hit anything.... :furious

   Come see me in the TA and we can cry in our milk together... :aok

  IMHO shooting is one of the hardest things to get good at,there are so many variables it becomes difficult to master.

 Lusche can correct me but I think the average hit% is about 1% to 2%,so every 100 round you fire 1 or 2 hit.


 As I said come see me and I'll see if I cant help,or atleast give you a shoulder to cry on,as long as your willing to do the same!



    :salute
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: Kingpin on December 14, 2015, 03:20:52 PM
i tell ya what we can talk about flying and ,SA, ACM, BCM but if i cant start hitting targets all i am ever going to be is A target.after about 40 flights tonight i finally got a kill but this is getting ridiculous. If i was to start hitting 1/2 the planes i am shooting at life would be so much easier . what good is SA, ACM, BCM if i cant hit anything. today i resorted to vulching and just about everything else for 1 crummy kill where i could of had 10 to 15. all i want for xmas is lazer guided bullets lol.  :bhead  getting shot down doesnt bother so much but missing targets all the time does. in 80 sorties so far this month i have 9 kills 8 of them were proxies. lucky for me i had the camera rolling and you can watch my 1 kill (lucky shot). i can fly in the offline area and blow them out of the sky no problem but in the MA i may as well be blindfolded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6BByGWjUwY

Mike, when we get together in the Training Arena, I'll be sure to spend some time on shooting with you.  I'll also share with you a few practice exercises you can do on your own that might translate into better MA shooting.

When I talk about SA and ACM being a key for you, it actually DOES relate to shooting, because those improvements will allow you to set up better shots.  One of the things you will learn and can notice with guys who tend to shoot well (get lots of kills per sortie and kills/assist) is they are very good at flying to the shot, setting up easier shots to make/hit.

Fess makes some excellent points about exactly this, when he points out that you are pulling too hard, often to near black-out, for the shot and essentially taking shots you can't make.  It might seem like you have a shot, which makes it frustrating when you don't hit anything.  But in reality, you are often setting up very difficult, if not impossible, shots to hit.

Imagine you are that classic gunfighter in a western, trying to shoot a tin-can off a wooden fence.  Right now, it's like you are trying to shoot the can while spinning in circles, hopping on one foot and closing your eyes -- a nearly impossible shot.  Imagine instead walking slowly up to the fence and blowing the tin can away at point blank range -- nearly impossible to miss!  That's what flying to the shot is all about.  The fastest way to improve your shooting will be understanding a few fundamentals and learning how to set up easier shots. 

I'll show you more about this and share a couple ways to practice it when we meet up in the TA.

<S>
KP/RR

Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: Scca on December 15, 2015, 09:00:20 AM
I see some of the classic beginner mistakes. 

You're flying too fast for the plane you are in.  General rule, turny planes don't like speed.  You're blacking out in turns and compressing a bit. 

You're not taking enough time to set up the shot.  Several times you dove in when the con was traveling 90 degrees to your flight path.  Try to set up the merge (the point where you meet with the plane) so that you are roughly behind it.  It's all about timing. 

When do you normally fly?
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: MADe on December 15, 2015, 10:52:12 AM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,376367.0.html

I have played the game awhile and its still tuff. I started the above thread, the members here have offered great advice.

This is a online simulation, as such there are some limitations albeit small ones. You need to take a step back and pose some well thought out questions. Do not just rant but ask your questions. You will get serious answers to serious questions.

Look into, proper scaling of your joystick, gunnery zoom, gunnery, view setups and squads. Choose 1 plane and stick with it only while learn what you need to learn.

Join a squad, squaddies will help you, cover you and allow you to learn. AH has a steep learning curve, but its not a vertical one. Patience and practice is what you need. Also remember, there are peeps here who play a lot, I mean a lot, so do not let it get to you. As in anything worth doing, practice, practice, practice. This is not an arcade style game per say, it is a quality attempt at a serious business, combat aircraft and war.

 :salute

ps: there are peeps here who get joy from your suffering. Do not show your feelings, ignore those who have small minds. They are very few but........
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: mikev on December 15, 2015, 12:38:31 PM


ps: there are peeps here who get joy from your suffering. Do not show your feelings, ignore those who have small minds. They are very few but........
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hahahaha for that small few, i will not quit, i will not stop, i will not give up ......... I WILL BE THE NEXT SKYYR  AND YOU WILL ALL HATE ME >>>>>>>>>>>> :noid
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 15, 2015, 12:48:47 PM
You really shouldn't want or strive to be someone else!

Be yourself and practice, as others have already posted....

As far as BFM and ACM , SA, E-management.... The plane type doesn't matter, if you understand it all.... meaning, your abilities are transferable.... However, it is recommended to learn most of it in one plane type

Once you get your mind wrapped around these things, then things will start to fall in place for you


Good luck and pm me if I can be of any help!

TC
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: MADe on December 15, 2015, 02:01:46 PM

ps: there are peeps here who get joy from your suffering. Do not show your feelings, ignore those who have small minds. They are very few but........


hahahaha for that small few, i will not quit, i will not stop, i will not give up ......... I WILL BE THE NEXT SKYYR  AND YOU WILL ALL HATE ME >>>>>>>>>>>> :noid

if this is your goal......................... ...................skyrr was a problem, not someone to be admired!
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: mikev on December 15, 2015, 02:11:26 PM
if this is your goal......................... ...................skyrr was a problem, not someone to be admired!
geeeezz people get a grip , i cant even make a joke without you taking it serious  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: Bino on December 15, 2015, 02:12:05 PM
Here's a quote attributed to the great ace Erich Hartmann that may be worth considering:

"I opened fire when the whole windshield was black with the enemy . . . at minimum range . . . it doesn't matter what your angle is to him or whether you are in a turn or any other maneuver."
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 15, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
geeeezz people get a grip , i cant even make a joke without you taking it serious  :rolleyes:

I got your joking... is why I typed someone else ( actually I meant "anyone else" )

offer is there if you want it

Good luck Mikev

TC
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: MADe on December 15, 2015, 02:31:43 PM
M,
You started the thread looking for assistance. If you do not take it serious then who will. If you want a joke thread well then....................

Peeps here are usually of age, and they take this game quite seriously. We help in a serious manner if asked......if that's not what you want, that's cool, we will all move on.
Its truly up to you m8.
 :salute
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: MADe on December 15, 2015, 10:34:38 PM
this op sent moi quite the PM.

I thought I was just speaking as an adult, straight up. Guess I assumed to much.

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Give me 1 kill
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 15, 2015, 10:43:53 PM
this op sent moi quite the PM.

I thought I was just speaking as an adult, straight up. Guess I assumed to much.

 :bolt:

MADe, if he sent you a personal message, why would you bring it here to the open Help and Training forum?

Not looking for nor need an answer to that question

He apparently didn't want to share it with everyone in this thread

Just how it looks from my view

Let's keep this forum to the forum title:

Help and Training

sincerely,

TC