General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ghi on January 20, 2016, 03:15:11 PM
Title: Planet X found
Post by: ghi on January 20, 2016, 03:15:11 PM
The solar system appears to have a new ninth planet, a body nearly the size of Neptune—but as yet unseen—orbits the sun every 15,000 years, 10 time larger than Earth;
Hmmm, you must have some mass.....to be able to exert enough gravitational force to attract her to you.... :devil
:salute
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: hgtonyvi on January 20, 2016, 05:49:19 PM
That looks like a big ball of water.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: ghi on January 20, 2016, 06:03:05 PM
All the YouTube Nibiru tards scientists are celebrating; :rofl
I watched videos about Nibiru, Planet X over the years, most are worthless ; But I remember this one, allegedly this Chilean astronomer Carlos Muñoz Ferrada was able to predict earthquakes about same way calculating the gravitational pull ; he knew there's a large mass object out there called it Hercolubus (red Planet) , an elliptic orbit like a comet, but is not a planet not a comet, gets closer to Earth/Sun every 14,000 years with devastating effect .
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: Zimme83 on January 20, 2016, 06:09:28 PM
Without being an expert i have hard to believe that a planet of this size will have any significant effect on Earth. It will be too far away. Jupiter is both much larger and much closer so it would have been far more devastating to Earth in that case.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: MrKrabs on January 20, 2016, 06:57:47 PM
Heard Rosie O'Donnell isn't allowed to travel to different part s of the world in fear of throwing off the earth's axis....
It must be true if published in a North Korean report
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 20, 2016, 07:59:42 PM
There are a lot of misconceptions right now. There still is much more to study to make sure it is in orbit. The sigma radius is still pretty far off. I think it's a great discovery and will remain optimistic. I still think we have a lot to learn about with Mars. The game has just begun.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: BoilerDown on January 21, 2016, 12:02:37 AM
They haven't discovered it, they just see evidence for it. Not even close to the same thing. If it happens to be at the far point of its orbit, we might not actually find it for another ten thousand years or until we're able to leave Earth and go looking for it.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: Chalenge on January 21, 2016, 01:03:51 AM
We have sensors that could find it.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: guncrasher on January 21, 2016, 01:14:25 AM
you guys talking about betty again? yes she's back in the game/
semp
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: puller on January 21, 2016, 08:11:54 AM
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: Zoney on January 21, 2016, 10:31:49 AM
I'm not so sure about this. I have a problem believing that the eccentric orbit of a planet this size would not have disrupted the Earth orbit by now. 15,000 year orbits go by pretty quick on a solar system scale. There would have been so many opportunities for a close pass to have pulled Earth out of it's current orbit by now. All scientific evidence shows that the earth has had a stable orbit for the past 3 billion years, since the gigantic collision that formed out moon from the Earth impact debris.
I called my brother-in-law, Michael Cassutt, author, space historian, and guest speaker on many-many Discovery, Nova and History channel contributing expert. This guy knows his stuff, he's one of the guys the networks call and then put on TV when they need an outside expert commentator.
He laughed and said, "Yes I know what you are talking about and the entire theory is not only ridiculous but also impossible. It would have disrupted the solar system and we would not be here."
But hey, you guys are having fun, don't let the laws of physics and celestial mechanics stop you now.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: BoilerDown on January 21, 2016, 10:34:36 AM
From the above link:
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The orbit of the inferred planet is similarly tilted, as well as stretched to distances that will explode previous conceptions of the solar system. Its closest approach to the sun is seven times farther than Neptune, or 200 astronomical units (AUs). (An AU is the distance between Earth and the sun, about 150 million kilometers.) And Planet X could roam as far as 600 to 1200 AU, well beyond the Kuiper belt, the region of small icy worlds that begins at Neptune’s edge about 30 AU.
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Brown knows that no one will really believe in the discovery until Planet X itself appears within a telescope viewfinder. “Until there’s a direct detection, it’s a hypothesis—even a potentially very good hypothesis,” he says.
They haven't found anything. Unless that planet just happens to be on the close side of its 200AU to 1200AU orbit, we might not actually find it for thousands of years, as orbits that large are measured in 10s of thousands of years.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: Zimme83 on January 21, 2016, 10:39:32 AM
I'm not so sure about this. I have a problem believing that the eccentric orbit of a planet this size would not have disrupted the Earth orbit by now. 15,000 year orbits go by pretty quick on a solar system scale. There would have been so many opportunities for a close pass to have pulled Earth out of it's current orbit by now. All scientific evidence shows that the earth has had a stable orbit for the past 3 billion years, since the gigantic collision that formed out moon from the Earth impact debris.
I called my brother-in-law, Michael Cassutt, author, space historian, and guest speaker on many-many Discovery, Nova and History channel contributing expert. This guy knows his stuff, he's one of the guys the networks call and then put on TV when they need an outside expert commentator.
He laughed and said, "Yes I know what you are talking about and the entire theory is not only ridiculous but also impossible. It would have disrupted the solar system and we would not be here."
But hey, you guys are having fun, don't let the laws of physics and celestial mechanics stop you now.
Yep, If the estimations are right it would be the fourth largest planet in the solar system. At that distance it would have no significant effect whatsoever.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: ghi on January 21, 2016, 02:29:01 PM
Not related with planet x, but interesting video I just watched; mini tsunami south of Seattle,WA along Pacific coast ; I understand was recorded Monday this week ,without warning; a buoy located few hundreds miles west in ocean was in alert mode about same time,; maybe just a tide .
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: 2Slow on January 21, 2016, 02:57:23 PM
As far as I am concerned, Pluto is still planet number 9. So planet X would be number 10. Just like the "X" being used to describe it.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: Zimme83 on January 21, 2016, 03:26:43 PM
The problem with that is that if Pluto is a planet the this will be Planet 200 or something like that. Pluto is now a dwarf planet and there are several others out there too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: Chalenge on January 21, 2016, 07:13:50 PM
Radio telescopes, which is one of the reasons we were supposed to build a permanent station on the moon. The Large Lunar Baseline Array would have mapped out heavy bodies within our solar system, which may have led to our awareness of any pending extinction type event. All that was killed with the stroke of a pen.
Anyway, radio interferometry is how you find otherwise invisible objects. It would take some time, but we have 15,000 years or whatever the time limit is on extinction.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: WaffenVW on January 22, 2016, 11:08:58 PM
Unfortunately radio telescopes can only detect bodies which emit radiation at radio wavelengths. Maybe this hypothetical gas giant is massive enough to do that, but smaller bodies don't. It's not a space radar.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: Chalenge on January 23, 2016, 12:09:56 AM
If it has a magnetic field then it can be detected. But at any rate your statement is misleading, because radio interferometry comes in more than a single flavor. Aperture synthesis however can work miracles when you consider even dark bodies, but they do not work well in an atmosphere, which is why they were chosen for the planned (now canceled) lunar array. The nature of this type of interferometry is why the term "baseline" is in the project title. The moon would be an ideal location for such an array.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: WaffenVW on January 23, 2016, 01:01:42 AM
Aperture synthesis only makes a big antennae out of many small ones. It is still a passive system that needs something to radiate energy for the antennae to pick up. Out there 200 times the distance of Neptune the Sun is just a slightly brighter star in the darkness of space.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: Zimme83 on January 23, 2016, 02:51:38 AM
There are several conventional telescopes that are capable of spotting a potential planet nine.
One telescope can help: Subaru, an 8-meter telescope in Hawaii that is owned by Japan. It has enough light-gathering area to detect such a faint object, coupled with a huge field of view—75 times larger than that of a Keck telescope. That allows astronomers to scan large swaths of the sky each night. Batygin and Brown are using Subaru to look for Planet X—and they are coordinating their efforts with their erstwhile competitors, Sheppard and Trujillo, who have also joined the hunt with Subaru. Brown says it will take about 5 years for the two teams to search most of the area where Planet X could be lurking.
Title: Re: Planet X found
Post by: Chalenge on January 23, 2016, 03:50:56 AM
Aperture synthesis only makes a big antennae out of many small ones. It is still a passive system that needs something to radiate energy for the antennae to pick up. Out there 200 times the distance of Neptune the Sun is just a slightly brighter star in the darkness of space.
You're arguing the wrong point. The odds of a planet sized object having no magnetic field whatsoever is slim. The odds of any body in space having zero gravity is zero. The way an array like this finds dark bodies/masses in space, is by measuring the effects of those bodies/masses upon radio sources from distant galaxies, or some special cases distant stars within our own galaxy.