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Title: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: Skyguns MKII on January 22, 2016, 03:51:45 PM
A&P FCC/GROL certified.
Sucks...
I didn't realize how much process it is. "Required 5 years experience" Experience is what im trying to achieve!  :rofl
I was told by my father that when he was a little older than me he had stuffed over 200 preprinted envelope's with his resume before he got his job, i laughed not because it was funny but i believed him. I almost wish it was that simple nowadays. Filling out dozens of online applications and it seems like your being interviewed without ever being looked at. I understand the convenience but i would want a face to face.  :cheers:     

Anyone feeling the struggle?  :salute
 
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: Spikes on January 22, 2016, 03:56:47 PM
I've noticed the same as I am starting to look around at jobs. The "entry level" jobs require a 4 year degree (no problem) AND 2-5 years of experience...now what is entry level about that?
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: Randy1 on January 22, 2016, 04:12:15 PM
The sad part is if you are white and male you are the bottom of everyone's list.  Most major companies like Intel openly declare they will place a greater value for employment and promotions on females and minorities.   I try not to buy any intel products.





Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 22, 2016, 04:27:20 PM
A&P FCC/GROL certified.
Sucks...
I didn't realize how much process it is. "Required 5 years experience" Experience is what im trying to achieve!  :rofl
I was told by my father that when he was a little older than me he had stuffed over 200 preprinted envelope's with his resume before he got his job, i laughed not because it was funny but i believed him. I almost wish it was that simple nowadays. Filling out dozens of online applications and it seems like your being interviewed without ever being looked at. I understand the convenience but i would want a face to face.  :cheers:     

Anyone feeling the struggle?  :salute

I'm currently looking for work after moving to Miami a couple of weeks ago. Will hopefully have a job here in the next week.

My advice is to seach for reputable recruiting services in your area. Get in contact with an agent and send them your resume. I am currently working with Robert Half, and have received 3 interviews from them in the past week. They do all the work for you. If you have a nice linkedin account, you can also job search and make connections there.
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: MiloMorai on January 22, 2016, 04:39:02 PM
Asking for job experience is nothing new. Back in the early '70 at an interview was asked how much experience I had, said none as was fresh out of school, told sorry no job. Asked the interviewer how I was suppose to get experience if I wasn't hired. Got a hum haw for an answer.
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: Shuffler on January 22, 2016, 04:44:41 PM
What they have found is that those who go into the workforce instead of college gain the experience and move up in the job. They want college grads but do not want to have to train them. They expect the college grad to be able to work on the level of a person who has 4 years experience in the actual field of work. Not going to happen. Once they can't fill that position with an American soul then they can bring in a non-American and get him a work visa.

This is what I think most of yall are running into.
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: tmetal on January 22, 2016, 05:07:27 PM
employers can require years of experience for entry level jobs because there is currently a large pool of people who have been laid off or lost the jobs they had for years for one reason or another and now have to settle for entry level work just to keep the lights on and the debt collector away
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: Vudak on January 22, 2016, 05:34:50 PM
I'm currently looking for work after moving to Miami a couple of weeks ago. Will hopefully have a job here in the next week.

My advice is to seach for reputable recruiting services in your area. Get in contact with an agent and send them your resume. I am currently working with Robert Half, and have received 3 interviews from them in the past week. They do all the work for you. If you have a nice linkedin account, you can also job search and make connections there.
I second this advice. My wife is a recruiter for Randstad. Recruiters have connections and reputations for sending good candidates. They can help immensely just by making sure your resume is looked at (some places probably get 100s).
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: puller on January 22, 2016, 05:35:03 PM
employers can require years of experience for entry level jobs because there is currently a large pool of people who have been laid off or lost the jobs they had for years for one reason or another and now have to settle for entry level work just to keep the lights on and the debt collector away

This
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: Skyguns MKII on January 23, 2016, 12:48:22 AM
employers can require years of experience for entry level jobs because there is currently a large pool of people who have been laid off or lost the jobs they had for years for one reason or another and now have to settle for entry level work just to keep the lights on and the debt collector away
Iv noticed and wish I wasn't fooled by employment propaganda in school..
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: Skyguns MKII on January 23, 2016, 12:50:01 AM
I'm currently looking for work after moving to Miami a couple of weeks ago. Will hopefully have a job here in the next week.

My advice is to seach for reputable recruiting services in your area. Get in contact with an agent and send them your resume. I am currently working with Robert Half, and have received 3 interviews from them in the past week. They do all the work for you. If you have a nice linkedin account, you can also job search and make connections there.
Thank you il be sure to take that advice
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: guncrasher on January 23, 2016, 03:02:19 AM
when I used to work at the insurance company.  after I got divorced in the late 90's we had lots of temps, college kids working for us at 9 dollars an hour.  full time employees started at 18 back then, I was a senior account administrator, making close to 30.

we hired only those freshly out of college and never anybody over 30.  the thing that bother me is not that we would hire the most qualified but we would hire those that "could fit in".  in other words we hired people with good looks that dressed nice.

most of the time those we hired didnt even know how to use a stapler, but they could talk big about how they were going to save the company.

that still bothers me to this day.  when I moved from NC to sou cal, I went thru the same thing.  applied for an office job every where.  never found one.  had an interview once with a girl about 25, who told me I had more experience that she did.  I didnt get the job.


semp
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: 10thmd on January 23, 2016, 03:13:29 AM
Anyone feeling the struggle?  :salute

Bro, I am a 33 year old Veteran with a college degree, about to finally receive disability and I have been trying for a year to get full-time employment. I have been through recruiting agencies, even those who claim veterans preference, Nothing.....   I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: Skyguns MKII on January 23, 2016, 03:17:12 AM
Bro, I am a 33 year old Veteran with a college degree, about to finally receive disability and I have been trying for a year to get full-time employment. I have been through recruiting agencies, even those who claim veterans preference, Nothing.....   I feel your pain.
You deserve a job my friend. Whats your field you you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: Skyguns MKII on January 23, 2016, 03:25:47 AM
when I used to work at the insurance company.  after I got divorced in the late 90's we had lots of temps, college kids working for us at 9 dollars an hour.  full time employees started at 18 back then, I was a senior account administrator, making close to 30.

we hired only those freshly out of college and never anybody over 30.  the thing that bother me is not that we would hire the most qualified but we would hire those that "could fit in".  in other words we hired people with good looks that dressed nice.

most of the time those we hired didnt even know how to use a stapler, but they could talk big about how they were going to save the company.

that still bothers me to this day.  when I moved from NC to sou cal, I went thru the same thing.  applied for an office job every where.  never found one.  had an interview once with a girl about 25, who told me I had more experience that she did.  I didnt get the job.


semp

I live in so cal riverside county so I know exactly what your talking about. In my feild im discovering the opposite. It seems people working in the same hanger 20+ years never leave thus have a trustworthy staff. Despite the abundance of employment propaganda school gave me...
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: 10thmd on January 23, 2016, 03:26:25 AM
IT, I have an associate in applied science, computer networking. I actually work at the college I graduated from but only part time, 19.5 hours a week is hard to support a family of 4 on.  At least my dad, the big boss man oil worker is always there to back me up. He makes more in one month than I make in 5 years right now.
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: JOACH1M on January 23, 2016, 07:50:28 AM
I've noticed the same as I am starting to look around at jobs. The "entry level" jobs require a 4 year degree (no problem) AND 2-5 years of experience...now what is entry level about that?
Rhey are looking for people who have internship experience most likely.
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: guncrasher on January 23, 2016, 10:05:47 AM

I live in so cal riverside county so I know exactly what your talking about. In my feild im discovering the opposite. It seems people working in the same hanger 20+ years never leave thus have a trustworthy staff. Despite the abundance of employment propaganda school gave me...

hey skyguns, shoot me a pm if you want.  I live in Fontana.  maybe we can have a beer or something.


semp
Title: Re: Young, dumb, 21, and looking for work
Post by: Blooz on January 23, 2016, 03:18:15 PM
Won't be long we'll all be working sixteen hours a day for a bowl of rice.