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Title: Shift-X
Post by: Zacherof on January 27, 2016, 06:00:26 PM
Is it possible to make shift X work while inverted? Or make a different command to fly inverted without having hands on?
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: MrKrabs on January 27, 2016, 06:51:01 PM
Is it possible to make shift X work while inverted? Or make a different command to fly inverted without having hands on?

I didn't k.ow they had that in WWII when most engines does while inverted
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: Zacherof on January 27, 2016, 07:25:22 PM
I didn't k.ow they had that in WWII when most engines does while inverted
I figured someone would say something to this effect :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: bustr on January 27, 2016, 08:07:17 PM
If you read many pilot hand books for WW2 fighters, there are warnings universally for inverted flight. 10 seconds comes to mind.
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: Zacherof on January 27, 2016, 08:42:03 PM
If you read many pilot hand books for WW2 fighters, there are warnings universally for inverted flight. 10 seconds comes to mind.
What also comes to mind is that this is what it is, a  game and we essentially a hive the impossible here. But it also makes sence 15 years of this not being implemented to see why it shouldn't be
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: Scca on January 29, 2016, 07:41:25 AM
I don't think so.  Step one of shift-x is wings level.  If you're upside down, I think it would try to do that first. 
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: waystin2 on January 29, 2016, 08:23:35 AM
As fun as it sounds I fail to see a pratical use for this idea.  -1
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: Randy1 on January 29, 2016, 08:27:54 AM
Is it possible to make shift X work while inverted? Or make a different command to fly inverted without having hands on?

For what reason would you want to fly inverted for an extended period of time?
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: Zacherof on January 29, 2016, 10:35:53 AM
I don't think so.  Step one of shift-x is wings level.  If you're upside down, I think it would try to do that first.
That's why I suggested a different command or something but it might be a hassle to adjust
For what reason would you want to fly inverted for an extended period of time?
I thought of it cuz prior to diving on a target wether ground for attack or diving on a con I go inverted looking at different ways of egress and planing a basic follow up attack assuming the con in gonna attack evades. But as bustr said upon really looking at it it doesn't have much help other than that. Pretty lazy the more I think about it lol
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: earl1937 on February 04, 2016, 08:59:37 AM
Is it possible to make shift X work while inverted? Or make a different command to fly inverted without having hands on?
:airplane: As far as I know, all the "piston" slapper engines of WW2 had "float" type carburetors, which when turned upside down, as in inverted flight, the actual float device would shut off the fuel supply and the engine would shut down.
As engines improved and pressurized carbs became the norm and when direct fuel injection was introduced, then the engine would run upside down as good as right side up! And before anyone comments on it, "turbo" charging, or super charging has nothing to do with introducing fuel into the cylinders, all the "blower" does is keep a constant 14.7 lbs per square inch in the upper deck of the carburetor! As newer and improved "blowers" evolved, and manifold systems were improved, which then could keep the fuel pressure constant all the way to the intake valve! but  that is a whole different topic!
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: Scca on February 05, 2016, 02:16:00 PM
:airplane: As far as I know, all the "piston" slapper engines of WW2 had "float" type carburetors, which when turned upside down, as in inverted flight, the actual float device would shut off the fuel supply and the engine would shut down.
As engines improved and pressurized carbs became the norm and when direct fuel injection was introduced, then the engine would run upside down as good as right side up! And before anyone comments on it, "turbo" charging, or super charging has nothing to do with introducing fuel into the cylinders, all the "blower" does is keep a constant 14.7 lbs per square inch in the upper deck of the carburetor! As newer and improved "blowers" evolved, and manifold systems were improved, which then could keep the fuel pressure constant all the way to the intake valve! but  that is a whole different topic!
All but early war birds had the pressure carburetor (i.e. Hurri I).  Inverted flight was more about oil starvation, not fuel issues. 
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: earl1937 on February 07, 2016, 01:02:38 PM
All but early war birds had the pressure carburetor (i.e. Hurri I).  Inverted flight was more about oil starvation, not fuel issues.
:airplane: Sorry, my friend, but that is incorrect! The engine stopped because of fuel starvation, the oil had nothing to do with it....the engine would quit long before anything wore out because of lack of oil!
We have a aircraft you can try out, if you like, the Spit 5, roll it over on its back and see how long it runs!
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: -ammo- on February 07, 2016, 01:05:45 PM
Is it possible to make shift X work while inverted? Or make a different command to fly inverted without having hands on?


Why?
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: Zacherof on February 07, 2016, 03:12:16 PM

Why?
It bottoms down to laziness  :D
Title: Re: Shift-X
Post by: Zimme83 on February 07, 2016, 04:02:07 PM
:airplane: Sorry, my friend, but that is incorrect! The engine stopped because of fuel starvation, the oil had nothing to do with it....the engine would quit long before anything wore out because of lack of oil!
We have a aircraft you can try out, if you like, the Spit 5, roll it over on its back and see how long it runs!

Spit V is doing just fine inverted, Spit I and Hurr I (incl sea Hurr) on the other hand is not.