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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Zacherof on February 02, 2016, 03:51:51 PM
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Filed my taxes so I decided I should use a portion to get myself pedals, and I'm looking at getting Ch pedals due the fact I like ch, and the price is reasonable as far as I can tell vs $400 saitek pedals lol
Anyone have any problems with them?
Figured with pedals I don't have to fight the throttle and push the rudder keys in my key board :rofl
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saitek isn't 400.
semp
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$300 :)
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saitek isn't 400.
semp
Depends on which Saitek rudder pedals. The base pedals (Pro Flight Rudder Pedals) usually retail for around $150 - $199, while the Saitek Combat pedals can retail from $250 to $300 and the Saitek Cessna pedals from $300+.
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Just for the possibility that you haven't heard of these:
http://mfg.simundza.com/products (http://mfg.simundza.com/products)
I like them very much, but are more expensive than what you are looking at with CH or Saitek.
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Which pedal model moves like gas pedals or base drum pedals, rather than the realistic sliding/push pedals like the MFG?
Those MFGs are a work of art by the way.
Thanks
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Hey Zach,
I have CH pedals, Combat Stick, and Throttle....out of the three the pedals are the only thing that doesn't ever come out of calibration....and I have had them the longest.
The pedals do sit a bit close together so you will probably need to figure out what is best for you at first so that you can kill in comfort :) I personally put my heels at the top of the pedals and depress down...I don't use the toe axis for anything just the Z axis.
All in all, pedals are awesome, they will definitely immerse you more into the game and probably will make your maneuvers a bit more precise.
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I used CH pedals for many years and had no complaints with them. After about nine years or so the right toe brake did quit working. The other gripe with the CH pedals is that they are spaced close together and that can get uncomfortable, but it was not something that couldn't easily be overcome for me.
The other concern is that since CH was bought out the quality of the simulation hardware has been called into question and they are not the same as when it was a family owned company. I personally can't say as all my CH equipment was bought before the company changed hands.
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Sik
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Be prepared to hate your virtual life for 2 weeks but after that you're going to wonder how you ever did without them. I highly, highly, highly suggest going into the TA and asking a trainer to spar with you for 20-30 minutes a night to help you get used to them quick.
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Be prepared to hate your virtual life for 2 weeks but after that you're going to wonder how you ever did without them. I highly, highly, highly suggest going into the TA and asking a trainer to spar with you for 20-30 minutes a night to help you get used to them quick.
Good point. If you are not use to using pedals the transition can be a little frustrating.
One exercise I like to do is touch and goes without locking the tail wheel. Ground handling (ie try to drive down the runway, taxiways, through the hanger etc.) without locking the tail wheel is another good exercise to practice rudder control.
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Sik
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was a bit alien getting used to them at first after several years with a twisty but I have had my CH ones for 7 years now and wouldn't go without.
They have survived 3 house moves and I'm not one to clean and dust stuff. :D
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If you send me $100 in cash I will send you a pair :old:
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If you send me $100 in cash I will send you a pair :old:
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Well I'm under the impression that these are as good as I thought. And I knew from the get go if have to train with them. I got a few laughs when I told people I use key board keys for rudder.
And the wife played them :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Be prepared to hate your virtual life for 2 weeks but after that you're going to wonder how you ever did without them. I highly, highly, highly suggest going into the TA and asking a trainer to spar with you for 20-30 minutes a night to help you get used to them quick.
This is great advice, or if there aren't any trainers available just hit up someone who will do some informal 1v1s in the DA or a custom arena.
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I'm sure I'll find somebody lol
Really look forward to this
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I have my CH pedals for about 5 years. It's in great condition and works great. Just make sure you wipe it at least every two weeks to keep it clean and not make any dust gets into it. I also have a CH combat stick for 5 years also. I might be working on getting a track IR and CH throttle. Reason I want the CH throttles is to get precise throttle work. I'm using buttons on my stick and that's not giving me accurate throttle work.
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I have the VKB Rudder Pedals from Europe. They have an up/down motion like u were asking about. They are nice for using with an office chair on wheels. Very well built.
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I'm sure I'll find somebody lol
Really look forward to this
Ill go with you to the TA if you want. DA is ok but in the TA you'll get more time riding edge as we can't kill each other. If it wasn't for bighorn doing this for me, they'd have been quickly returned so I guess it's time to pay it forward :)
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Be prepared to hate your virtual life for 2 weeks but after that you're going to wonder how you ever did without them. ---
Here's some medical facts: It'll take you the two weeks Vudak mentioned to remember you should use the pedals instead of what you've been used to use. It'll take about three months for your brain to build new neural connections for making using pedals as natural as walking.
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Ill go with you to the TA if you want. DA is ok but in the TA you'll get more time riding edge as we can't kill each other. If it wasn't for bighorn doing this for me, they'd have been quickly returned so I guess it's time to pay it forward :)
Ok then! I'll be out of town for work most of feburary so in March I'll get back to you for this! Or sooner if my return gets to me fast haha
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Zach:
I can't remember how long it took for me to get use to using them. But it really wasn't That big a deal. I use auto takeoff all the time plus half the time I don't use the rudders at all. I do like them when I need them though. Carrier landings are a squeak without them.
I have cleaned them once in the 3 years I've owned them. I own all three CH products. The only problem I've ever had was with the throttle after my granddaughter (2 years old at the time) slammed it forward into the top level of the computer desk. It was never right after that and I had to eventually buy a new one.
Tex78
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The biggest thing is I need to make my left hand availabile to adjust throttle and talk on vox if needed instead of fiddling with my rudder keys
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So my pedals get her tomorrow.
Now I just need a teacher for a day to tell me what's what's and how to use em n such.
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For starters just push the right pedal every time you roll right and the left pedal every time you roll left.
Practice 4 point rolls while flying level.
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Which pedal model moves like gas pedals or base drum pedals, rather than the realistic sliding/push pedals like the MFG?
Those MFGs are a work of art by the way.
Thanks
I have and use a 21+ year old set of CH rudder pedals, the gameport version that came before the CH Pro rudder pedals...
Of the 8 to 10 CH Pro rudder pedals I have had, both gameport and USB type... I never liked them as much as I do my old regular ch model.... they are the pivoting type like a gas/brake pedals.... I use a radio shack gameport to USB adapter, and they are still working great after all these years...and when I'm playing racing game, I just slide the switch, so they work for gas and brake pedals....
I've gave away at least 6 ch Pro pedals, several thrust master pedals and a set of saitek pedals...
Still looking to find another set of these first kind ancient ch rudder pedals...for back up, once and if the ones I'm using finally quit working....
The thrust master pedals and the saitek pedals, to me seemed to have been the best built, at the time....been a few or so years though....
TC
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So my pedals get her tomorrow.
Now I just need a teacher for a day to tell me what's what's and how to use em n such.
Take a jeep out for a spin using your rudder to steer. Remember you have to set the pedals in mode 2. That will get your feet in tune to left and right.
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CH is crap!
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I feel like I'm going to want to murder my feet before the week is out lol
Thank you for the responses! :salute
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TC I have a pair of those CH 'Ch Pedals' too that are about that old, gameport version too, but they are dead. I love the pedal motion, just the foot pedal moves, not the entire base like the current USB pedals do (and almost every other set). I've tried the Crosswinds, have a set of the 109 Slaws (similar to Crosswind, only a bit better, IMO), and think the VKB are probably the most precise - sort of like the old style CH. Instead of moving your entire leg, or at least from the knee down, you only need to move your ankle, as the pedal is fixed and only pushes ahead, sort of like having the toe brakes on the current CH USB pedals BE the rudder movement. Less motion with the skeletal system = less gross motor skill, which IMO = more precise. It's all personal pref though, for certain.
Whoever said "2 weeks" to stop automatically using the wrist for rudder instead of feet when making that transition is absolutely right too. Same thing with TrackIR, you'll be using your thumb still for a while before just looking becomes 2nd nature.
You'll pick it up fast Zach, it'll give you shooting opportunities that you never had before, big time, compared to twisty or keyboard rudder.
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I like the CH pedals they are not as comfortable as the Saiteks though.
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Saiteks are wider by a fair bit than CH, IMO that makes them more comfortable.
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Well these will deffinatly take some getting used to
Especially the opposite input
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Well these will deffinatly take some getting used to
Especially the opposite input
The learning curve shouldn't be that steep. Fly offline for a couple of hours doing basic flight maneuvers and afterwards you'll start to get a feel for the pedals. In all honestly, it shouldn't take no more than a couple of days to get comfortable using them.
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Well, I started but jumping right into a furball. At first it was frustrating, but after an hour or so I'm getting the hang of it. Now I just need to figure out what to do with my other free hand lol. Might be time to get a throttle :banana:
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Well, I started but jumping right into a furball. At first it was frustrating, but after an hour or so I'm getting the hang of it. Now I just need to figure out what to do with my other free hand lol. Might be time to get a throttle :banana:
Definitely! A throttle is a must! How come you have managed so far without one?
My only issue with my current setup is that I don't use the dozen buttons on my stick base at all. I should have an extra pair of hands for them!
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Definitely! A throttle is a must! How come you have managed so far without one?
My only issue with my current setup is that I don't use the dozen buttons on my stick base at all. I should have an extra pair of hands for them!
Honestly my ch flightstick was fine. It has a throttle wheel, so my hand jumped from their, to the a s d keys for rudder and the key pad for views since my hat switch is going out lol.
One day!
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Honestly my ch flightstick was fine. It has a throttle wheel, so my hand jumped from their, to the a s d keys for rudder and the key pad for views since my hat switch is going out lol.
One day!
If you were using them CH pedals when I ran into you in the Beta yesterday I'd say you had the hang of them just fine!
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BTW I use a full CH USB HOTAS as well (Combatstick 568, Pro Throttle & Pro Pedals).
FYI.
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That was pre rudder pedals lol. Right now in trying to come up with a way to prevent them from being pushed forward when I use them heavily
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A piece or two of velcro has kept mine where I put them for years. If on a carpet you only need the "hook" side on the pedals.
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What Fugi said.
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A piece or two of velcro has kept mine where I put them for years. If on a carpet you only need the "hook" side on the pedals.
Was actually thinking about that otw home from running errands. Wife uses them for everything so why not my pedals lol
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If your using CH pedals on a carpet Velcro will not stop it moving.
When I got my CH pedals they came with 'stops' which slotted in to make them car sim pedals, I superglue them underneath the pedals which stopped them sliding
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Found them. When ever I have time I'm going to do the same. Gets anointing when your pedals have rotated 45 degrees to the left air right haha :rofl
Also thank you everyone for the tips and help.! :salute
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My computer desk is up against a wall. I put a small sturdy cardboard box on either side of the cable on my CH pedals, between the base and the wall. Then, the base can't move forward or rotate.