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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: elc7367b on February 10, 2016, 01:45:02 PM
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There has always been a lot of talk about the ENY situation. I usually fly earlier model planes so not that big of a concern but have noticed for those that dont and are active they are being forced to early models for one simple reason...tower sleepers. Its rather inconsiderate for folks to sit idle in the hopes that their side might just win and they will get 25 perk points. Maybe a solution to something like that would be an automatic boot after a set period of inactivity?
Muttman
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+1. I vote for the boot.
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And what will be accomplished when they use one of the many easy methods to get around it?
Wiley.
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this thread shows up at least once a month. have seen hitech explain how tower sitters affect all 3 countries equally. this is just a waste of e paper.
semp
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this thread shows up at least once a month. have seen hitech explain how tower sitters affect all 3 countries equally. this is just a waste of e paper.
semp
This from someone with 12,550 posts as of this writing. Somehow I dont think wasting epaper is really that big of a concern for you. If it is however, why read about it and feel compelled to reply in such a way as you did?
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This from someone with 12,550 posts as of this writing. Somehow I dont think wasting epaper is really that big of a concern for you. If it is however, why read about it and feel compelled to reply in such a way as you did?
Exactly... Instead of posting useful information that would "save paper" he just mouths off, thereby generating more "wasted paper" or whatever...
:bhead
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This from someone with 12,550 posts as of this writing. Somehow I dont think wasting epaper is really that big of a concern for you. If it is however, why read about it and feel compelled to reply in such a way as you did?
I have 12, 551 posts, mostly because i reply to posts like this that show up once a week.
semp
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I have 12, 551 posts, mostly because i reply to posts like this that show up once a week.
semp
I do not live and breathe my life on these boards as you appear to do. Posts like this every week? Really? Please put links to these weekly posts regarding booting of inactive tower sitters and I will gladly stand corrected.
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I do not live and breathe my life on these boards as you appear to do. Posts like this every week? Really? Please put links to these weekly posts regarding booting of inactive tower sitters and I will gladly stand corrected.
Heres one, maybe the only one needed.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,362537.msg4823819.html#msg4823819
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Heres one, maybe the only one needed.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,362537.msg4823819.html#msg4823819
Look, I understand there may be similar posts on any number of topics. With the number of posts generated since the creation of this board it is a statitistical inevetibility. I am not going to get into a pissing contest over this. I am not an "elite" member of this board as is evidenced by the number of postings I have made over the past twelve years. Since that is what HTC said, so be it. That still does not justify my perception of the original responce to my post from Semp. Add to that my challenge from me to him was to prove he has responded many times to posts regarding tower sitters. He is a big boy and should not need defending by you or anyone else.
I can see this has the potential of going downhill fast and will no longer be responding to further posts in this topic unless it be to stand corrected in regard to my challenge to Semp about weekly posts concerning tower sitters.
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elc, hitech has responded many, many times, to the question of "tower sitters". and threads like this pop up very often. fugitive posted a replay that more answer your question.
as for weekly thread, ok that was an exaggeration, but I see them every month or 2, maybe 3. but the answer still the same as the thread fugitive quoted.
semp
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Generally speaking, I think HTC's theory in that all countries, on your average day wouldn't see a difference in ENY if all tower sitters are booted is correct, with one exception. The worst ENY I see is when the country I am in happens to be close to winning the war. Hordes of people just stay logged in, or switch to that country so that they get the perk points if the war is won. This is the one time where tower sitters will cause an abnormal imbalance that could be helped with a tower time out.
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Look, I understand there may be similar posts on any number of topics. With the number of posts generated since the creation of this board it is a statitistical inevetibility. I am not going to get into a pissing contest over this. I am not an "elite" member of this board as is evidenced by the number of postings I have made over the past twelve years. Since that is what HTC said, so be it. That still does not justify my perception of the original responce to my post from Semp. Add to that my challenge from me to him was to prove he has responded many times to posts regarding tower sitters. He is a big boy and should not need defending by you or anyone else.
I can see this has the potential of going downhill fast and will no longer be responding to further posts in this topic unless it be to stand corrected in regard to my challenge to Semp about weekly posts concerning tower sitters.
You asked for a link and being the helping type of player that I am in gave you one.
Personally I hardly ever read the posts that semp posts, for the reasons you stated above.
I was just trying to be helpful, that's all.
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Generally speaking, I think HTC's theory in that all countries, on your average day wouldn't see a difference in ENY if all tower sitters are booted is correct, with one exception. The worst ENY I see is when the country I am in happens to be close to winning the war. Hordes of people just stay logged in, or switch to that country so that they get the perk points if the war is won. This is the one time where tower sitters will cause an abnormal imbalance that could be helped with a tower time out.
I can't say I have seen this in prime time. Is tower sitting more common during off hours awaiting a side win?
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I can't say I have seen this in prime time. Is tower sitting more common during off hours awaiting a side win?
That might be a question of percentage. 30 out of 300 is only 10%. I just logged in for facts, 25 out of 100 were sitting in the tower. That's too easy of a calculation: 25%. And I've seen worse numbers than that, the European Prime Time is about to begin, if that means the hours between dinner and bedtime.
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I can't say I have seen this in prime time. Is tower sitting more common during off hours awaiting a side win?
It happens in prime time, but the effects are lower, maybe ENY of 10-12 at worst. On weekend mornings, I have seen ENY 17+ from tower sitters who have been on since the prior evening waiting for the win, but it never happened, and they are in sleepy land....
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isn't eny only based on those in flight/drive??
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Back many moons ago.... did you not get booted for tower sitting? Seems like it, but my memory is fading. :old:
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Back many moons ago.... did you not get booted for tower sitting? Seems like it, but my memory is fading. :old:
Never was booted.
Yes your memory is fading.
HiTech
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Back many moons ago.... did you not get booted for tower sitting? Seems like it, but my memory is fading. :old:
Falling asleep while playing isn't considered "tower sitting". :D :bolt:
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just remembered hitech found a way to get rid of the tower sitters in the new version.
semp
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You asked for a link and being the helping type of player that I am in gave you one.
Personally I hardly ever read the posts that semp posts, for the reasons you stated above.
I was just trying to be helpful, that's all.
I read part of the link you posted but got pulled away.
Did HTC mention people sitting in ack guns away from the field getting timed out for inactivity? Wouldn't that be something to fix it? You get a few warnings and then PUNT.
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I read part of the link you posted but got pulled away.
Did HTC mention people sitting in ack guns away from the field getting timed out for inactivity? Wouldn't that be something to fix it? You get a few warnings and then PUNT.
And when they're using something like autohotkey to get around it?
Wiley.
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And when they're using something like autohotkey to get around it?
Wiley.
Or even easier, a penny jammed between some keys on the keyboard.
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Punt them for that, too.
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Punt them for that, too.
So you're essentially saying to detect them through magic. Got it.
Wiley.
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See Rule #4
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Some people just Femaledog, piss and moan about everything in this game, it only really only affects those that want to fly the low ENY planes. Here's a helpful suggestion to get around the ENY learn how to fly other planes. I swear some people would complain if they were hung with a new rope.
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The problem isnt with ENY or tower sitting. The problem is maps that are remaining in rotation that are no longer conducive to active and interactive game play for the numbers that are on. This would include one of my absolute favorites.
As much as we may like some of the larger maps. They become a detriment to good game play because there simply isnt the numbers to warrant them any longer
All large maps need to be cropped by at least a 3rd. As the arena numbers improve. So should the maps sizes return
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See Rule #4
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No, seriously. How do they go about detecting it in a way that A) doesn't penalize legit players and B) isn't blindingly simple to circumvent? If you think about it a bit, you will see the problem.
Wiley.
I am sure there's a way...
You may not get the professional hacker, but getting the casual ones would be good enough.
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I am sure there's a way...
You may not get the professional hacker, but getting the casual ones would be good enough.
In other words, you have no idea how to do it but assume there's a way. Basically, you want magic. And once somebody's figured out how to do it, the casuals will just follow along and do the same thing.
Wiley.
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In other words, you have no idea how to do it but assume there's a way. Basically, you want magic. And once somebody's figured out how to do it, the casuals will just follow along and do the same thing.
Wiley.
I don't know how to walk on the moon, either. But I know it can be done.
HiTech's got all sorts of countermeasures to this stuff. The question is whether the water is worth the well-digging. No magic to it. Ninety-nine percent won't even bother trying to defeat it after they're busted.
Stop being a jackwagon with your constant sarcastic nonsense. You're starting to sound like Semp.
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Ninety-nine percent won't even bother trying to defeat it after they're busted.
Whatever you reckon on the rest of the post. It's impossible to prove a negative. What on earth possessed you to say the above though? If people are trying to get something for free, they ALWAYS look to get around the obstacle put in front of them. The above is just flat out wrong.
Wiley.
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Whatever you reckon on the rest of the post. It's impossible to prove a negative. What on earth possessed you to say the above though? If people are trying to get something for free, they ALWAYS look to get around the obstacle put in front of them. The above is just flat out wrong.
Wiley.
In your world.
Most cheaters are amateurs looking for the easy advantage. Make it hard for them and they move on to other things--or wind up permabanned for their persistence.
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wow now sitting in a werbie for 20 minutes watching planes fly 10k above the base is cheating.
same for sitting in a gun.
landing a goon near town and waiting for it to be down.
landing a damaged airplane at enemy planeand waiting for
base take
can think of a few more.
semp
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See rule #4
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...because the answer to no action is to kick people out of the game?
:salute
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Most cheaters are amateurs looking for the easy advantage. Make it hard for them and they move on to other things
Yes, because people never ever google cheats for the games they play. I'd say you're a bit backwards on who's not living in the real world.
And permabanning for idling? That's a clear reminder why I'm glad you don't run the game.
Wiley.
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He is at it again....
Dale. Since vraciu seems to have all of the answers, maybe bring him on board? There would be no need to have the General Discussion forum, as we could just consult the oracle and have our answer at a moments notice.
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Yes, because people never ever google cheats for the games they play. I'd say you're a bit backwards on who's not living in the real world.
And permabanning for idling? That's a clear reminder why I'm glad you don't run the game.
Wiley.
The boss permabans cheaters. I'm glad he does.
Googling for cheats? You don't think HiTech's onto those little ideas?
:rofl
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He is at it again....
Dale. Since vraciu seems to have all of the answers, maybe bring him on board? There would be no need to have the General Discussion forum, as we could just consult the oracle and have our answer at a moments notice.
He is at it again.
Dale, since all Masherbum seems to do is stalk me on the boards to insult me unprovoked (as admitted above) in all areas of the forum maybe you could tell him to knock it off.
In the meantime, I will select IGNORE THIS USER.
:salute
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The boss permabans cheaters. I'm glad he does.
Googling for cheats? You do t think HiTech's onto those little ideas?
:rofl
All I was pointing out was that when people encounter resistance, google is just a few clicks away. Finding exploits and bugs in games has never been easier than it is today, and people do it all the time. That one guy figures it out, and the masses copy the procedure or download the tool.
The above post does also raise yet another downside though. If HTC makes it a concern, now they've got to expend resources staying on top of it. We're back to the "is it worth the digging" that you pointed out. In my opinion and apparently in HT's opinion, which is the only one that counts, the answer is 'no'.
Wiley.
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All I was pointing out was that when people encounter resistance, google is just a few clicks away. Finding exploits and bugs in games has never been easier than it is today, and people do it all the time. That one guy figures it out, and the masses copy the procedure or download the tool.
The above post does also raise yet another downside though. If HTC makes it a concern, now they've got to expend resources staying on top of it. We're back to the "is it worth the digging" that you pointed out. In my opinion and apparently in HT's opinion, which is the only one that counts, the answer is 'no'.
Wiley.
There you have it.
:salute
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He is at it again....
Dale. Since vraciu seems to have all of the answers, maybe bring him on board? There would be no need to have the General Discussion forum, as we could just consult the oracle and have our answer at a moments notice.
:rofl
He's already a self appointed Moderator, so why not...
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:rofl
He's already a self appointed Moderator, so why not...
Are you two married?
Get a room.
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4