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Title: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: Sabre on March 18, 2016, 04:03:47 PM
You remember this hanger queen, don't you? Standard US halftrack with a canon on it? I remember taking one of these out only one time, quite a while ago. I drove it to the top of a hill over looking an enemy base to get LOS, then was promptly popped by a passing fighter. With no armor and a very limited traverse on the gun, this is clearly not very useful in the MA. However, allow someone to take one out with a couple more as drones (similar to bombers) and use it as an indirect-fire mobile artillery battery, using "Land" mode fire direction and the clipboard map (like AH ships do) to target an enemy base or position, and now you have a legitimate use for it in the MA. Use a spotter to call your shots long/short/left/right, and it becomes a pretty effective tool.

Restrict the load out when in "formation" mode to HE and smoke ammo, and make it a requirement that you be stationary to fire in indirect fire mode. Maybe even perk it's use as a formation. Perhaps make it so that, when moving, the three tracks are in line, with the player driving the lead vehicle. Once a player reaches their preferred firing position and facing, they stop and hit the "deploy" hot-key. The drone vehicles pull up beside the lead vehicle, facing the same direction, and only then can their guns be unlimbered and fired. If the player moves his lead vehicle, indirect fire ends and the drones fall back into line-a-stern and follow. This makes them very difficult to use against other vehicles in a direct-fire engagement.  Just looking for an easy way to add mobile artillery to the game, using existing assets and code to the max extent possible.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 18, 2016, 05:06:19 PM
Had a Bish named Erwin in LW, he was deadly in the M3/Cannon. We used to call it "Erwins M3 of Death" . :D
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: MrKrabs on March 20, 2016, 07:21:36 AM
But I love my little troll wagon... That and my tiger killing jeep of doom...
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: icepac on March 20, 2016, 06:55:39 PM
When it first came out, someone got a screenshot of them flying over a berm and shooting an enemy tank while in the air.....much like machete did with his motorcycle.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: Chalenge on March 20, 2016, 10:10:15 PM
Yeah, if you cannot figure out indirect fire mode without artificial assistance then you don't deserve to do it at all.

Just my opinion of course.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: vHACKv on March 22, 2016, 06:20:14 AM
Funny, I know some guys that had enough people complain about the HQ hardness, that it was upped to 100k because of these things.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: BaldEagl on March 26, 2016, 10:31:43 AM
When I was playing more I used to take that thing out regularly.  If you're in the right position you can land a lot of kills with it and it's fun.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: wil3ur on March 26, 2016, 11:31:04 AM


(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/121374339_e49a6993b8.jpg?v=0)

Still waiting on this...
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 28, 2016, 06:20:54 PM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/121374339_e49a6993b8.jpg?v=0)

Still waiting on this...

wrong war by about 5 years.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: JVboob on April 03, 2016, 07:16:13 PM
This has been done many times lol.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: Sabre on April 13, 2016, 04:24:26 PM
Yeah, if you cannot figure out indirect fire mode without artificial assistance then you don't deserve to do it at all.

Just my opinion of course.

Respectfully, I'm not sure what you're referring to by "indirect fire mode", though I'll admit to having been away from the game for a while. As far as "artificial assistance", isn't that what the ship and land mode are when using naval artillery? HiTech saw fit to not require players to learn all the intricacies of naval bombardment, in a similar way that he has greatly simplified engine management for us virtual pilots. Likewise the very simplified Norden that HiTech gave us; the real one took months to learn to operate, and required reams of data cards and reference material. Again, I'm just suggesting an alternate use for an asset that gets very little use right now. It's possible it would be a highly stabilizing influence in the game, of course. However, artillery is an integral part of modern warfare, but the land variety is virtually non-existent in AH.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: FLOOB on April 14, 2016, 11:48:36 PM
wrong war by about 5 years.
There is no right war.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: Chalenge on April 15, 2016, 01:27:55 AM
Respectfully, I'm not sure what you're referring to by "indirect fire mode", . . .

When you get to AHIII you will find that the hills overlooking airfields are severely reduced if not entirely non-existent (at least as far as Greebo maps go). Long range sniping will be a thing of the past on those maps. However, you can still use indirect fire if you have it figured out. Indirect fire is not built into the vehicles. There is no HUD, or optimized aiming device. However, there is a way to use tanks with a high vertical traverse of the gun barrel that can fire long range. All you have to do is work out how to aim it to hit things you cannot see.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: Sabre on April 15, 2016, 01:40:37 PM
Example and explanation would be appreciated, thanks. Always willing to learn new things.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: JVboob on April 22, 2016, 05:32:23 AM
When you get to AHIII you will find that the hills overlooking airfields are severely reduced if not entirely non-existent (at least as far as Greebo maps go). Long range sniping will be a thing of the past on those maps. However, you can still use indirect fire if you have it figured out. Indirect fire is not built into the vehicles. There is no HUD, or optimized aiming device. However, there is a way to use tanks with a high vertical traverse of the gun barrel that can fire long range. All you have to do is work out how to aim it to hit things you cannot see.

Yes I can but I dont have the patience for it. I know several people that do it quite a bit lol
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: Chalenge on April 22, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
boob, your use of the M3 is one example of the reason I have not told anyone how to do it. Actually, I did tell a couple of people, but they didn't have the patience and never did get the hang of it.
Title: Re: New use of half-track with the big gun on it
Post by: Chalenge on April 22, 2016, 03:05:47 PM
Direct mode example is part of my control setup Pt 2 video where I shell a field from about 6k from an elevated position. I mention the general idea of indirect mode without explaining it in detail or giving an example. If you have ever been on OZkansas in AHII when I am in tank town, you know that indirect mode is a very real thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCX8IdA8AMc

I have since removed the indirect AHII example from my online videos.