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Title: Spitfire Marks, windscreen curved\flat side panels, sun screens.
Post by: bustr on March 24, 2016, 11:29:56 AM
With the beta now introducing an active alpha slider while flying to bright\dim your gunsight reticle. I've been looking at gunsights and color pictures of the rheostat turned up full. At that setting reticles have a lot of light bleed glare through the reticle plate. With the MKII it shows up like the pictures below.

I noticed that earlier spit marks have an external mounted armored glass with curved side panels. Along with a sun screen that slides up between the windscreen and the gunsight. At some point the marks suddenly have the armored plate on the inside and it looks green tinted along with the side panels being flat. Does this mean they did away with the slide up sun screen?


Over glare from a Barr & Stroud MKII.


(http://s20.postimg.org/4cx2rx1xp/Gunsight_1e_Large.jpg)


(http://s20.postimg.org/u76vhp1xp/Gunsight_large_5.jpg)

Title: Re: Spitfire Marks, windscreen curved\flat side panels, sun screens.
Post by: bustr on March 24, 2016, 07:54:29 PM
This is about as close as I can get since the light source is really the sun in the beta. Oh! hope someone has an answer to the spitfire sun screen question.


(http://s20.postimg.org/4w2616tcd/MKIIbrite1.jpg)


(http://s20.postimg.org/t12viwdn1/MKIIbrite2.jpg)


Title: Re: Spitfire Marks, windscreen curved\flat side panels, sun screens.
Post by: bustr on March 25, 2016, 10:43:10 AM
I was hoping guppy could explain the sunscreen evolution to me. Found a fascination series of walk around photos showing the sliding mechanism from behind the instrument panel. Seems the original windscreen with the armored glass on the outside created a gunsight reticle double image. The angle didn't match the angle of the gunsight reflector plate and the over glare is only prominent the darker the environment becomes. The pilot aimed with the bottom image.


(http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/02of_inst_panel_004.jpg)


(http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/02p_tank_002.jpg)


(http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/02n_15_037.jpg)


(http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/02flector_sight.jpg)
Title: Re: Spitfire Marks, windscreen curved\flat side panels, sun screens.
Post by: Guppy35 on April 16, 2016, 04:23:26 PM
Same idea as the 38s. Initially the Spit had no armor glass.  The external armor glass was basically a fast fix as guys were getting shot in the face.  Ultimately they went with the armor glass as a built in part of the windscreen.  The 38 was the same way with the curved windscreen and the separate armor glass inside the cockpit.  That was changed early in 38J production to built into flat Panal windscreen.  True of the Jug and others.  Streamlined was the idea until combat showed protection was more important
Title: Re: Spitfire Marks, windscreen curved\flat side panels, sun screens.
Post by: bustr on April 19, 2016, 10:46:32 AM
Thank you guppy.