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Title: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: jeffn on March 26, 2016, 01:35:59 PM
If this question came up already and i missed it, i apologize.

A topic of conversation today on 200 was the transferring of perk points from AHII to AHIII. Seams like an easy enough thing to do. Please confirm that this will be the reality.

Thanks
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Bruv119 on March 27, 2016, 08:17:07 AM
whilst HTC is in the process of clearing out dead wood maybe they should all be wiped along with the achievements. 
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Greebo on March 27, 2016, 09:21:34 AM
I think if HTC were to clean the perk/achievement slate for AHIII they would get a lot of abuse from some players about it but if they roll them over they won't get any. So I really can't see this happening, they'll have enough hassle to deal with from players having to upgrade their PCs.
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Bruv119 on March 27, 2016, 01:03:47 PM
I dunno Greebo I get the feeling HT doesn't listen to what the minority of players want.  I can see the whines you suggest happening but it just means Joe will have to get out of his Tiger II parked on concrete and insert weak willed person here will have to fly a non perk ride to inflate their below average score.

New version, new slate and I say that with 36k+ fighter perks I'm sure you have more from all that F6F flying  :D

You never know it might improve some of the fights for awhile and give newer guys a bit more of chance.   Either way I hope it gets discussed and not just carried over.   Even take a look at monthly tours as a scoring mechanism for or against.
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: guncrasher on March 27, 2016, 08:20:39 PM
you know how long it has taken me to get 7k perk points in my pony? I get like 1 perk point for every 20 kills.  and I only get 60 or so kills a month.

semp
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Devil 505 on March 27, 2016, 08:51:12 PM
How did HTC handle the transition from AH1 to AH2? I'm sure this time will be no different.
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: wil3ur on March 27, 2016, 08:51:59 PM
Honestly since changing my handle and losing my perks, I've upped maybe 2 or 3 perk birds... not my thing.  They're easy enough to get back, and stars are for Generals, not for the fighting man.  Get rid of them!

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: GrandpaChaps on March 30, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
whilst HTC is in the process of clearing out dead wood maybe they should all be wiped along with the achievements.

YES, please get rid of achievements.
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: GrandpaChaps on March 30, 2016, 07:32:06 PM
Honestly since changing my handle and losing my perks, I've upped maybe 2 or 3 perk birds... not my thing.  They're easy enough to get back, and stars are for Generals, not for the fighting man.  Get rid of them!

 :bolt:

Remind me why anyone cares about achievements and stars by their names?  Just a "trophy" a badge to brag about. I would think you'd want achievement badges in the hangar as a personal view.

We already can see scores and kills on someone from clipboard.  Still don't understand achievements.

IF achievements lead to other "rewards", now you have something.  More perks, better aircraft, etc. etc. etc.  But, all that gives you is a star by your name.  Doesn't really mean anything other than longevity/seniority.  From a gaming perspective, I may be wrong, but it has no value.

Am I too old fashioned?
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: guncrasher on March 30, 2016, 09:07:18 PM
Remind me why anyone cares about achievements and stars by their names?  Just a "trophy" a badge to brag about. I would think you'd want achievement badges in the hangar as a personal view.

We already can see scores and kills on someone from clipboard.  Still don't understand achievements.

IF achievements lead to other "rewards", now you have something.  More perks, better aircraft, etc. etc. etc.  But, all that gives you is a star by your name.  Doesn't really mean anything other than longevity/seniority.  From a gaming perspective, I may be wrong, but it has no value.

Am I too old fashioned?

well disable the stars and you wont have to see how many stars each player has if any.  achievements are more like braggin rights on some.

for example

-win the war troops
-hidden achievement in the 262

there's a few others that really make you laugh and smile when you get them.  and nobody is forcing you to see them.

semp
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: zack1234 on March 31, 2016, 01:38:32 AM
I have lots of perk points.

Fly the Yak9T for a month :)

I would own in the DA Bruv in a Yak9T using a mouse :old:
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Bruv119 on March 31, 2016, 01:43:30 AM
I have lots of perk points.

Fly the Yak9T for a month :)

I would own in the DA Bruv in a Yak9T using a mouse :old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAhEFuq62-I
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Randy1 on March 31, 2016, 06:47:11 AM
If they say perks will reset to zero, the out break of 262s and Tiger tanks will be epic in the latter days of AH2.

The achievement system should just be dumped.  It favors heavily, players that get to play the most.
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: caldera on March 31, 2016, 06:54:34 AM
I'm closing in on 50k fighter perks and there will be fisticuffs if they get wiped.   
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Gman on March 31, 2016, 11:35:49 AM
I find Bruv's ideas similar to my own, I'd be interested to see the game changes with a wipe of perks, and especially score, but IMO it's WAY to huge of a move and risk in the midst of an already complex move to a new platform for HTC.  WAY to much to bite off along with the move of so many members machines to a new game, many of whom, the majority I'd bet, haven't played much with the beta if at all yet.  Maybe I'm wrong on that, just basing it on the numbers I've seen in the beta arena. 

Like the ^^ post here, I could see a lot of people get very angry over losing their perks. This coming from someone that's never had more than 500 points in any category, as I use them for 262s and don't fly bombers or drive tanks often if at all.  So it'd be nothing to me to lose perks, but I'd hate to see the work that some have put in collecting them just tossed in order to see "what it did" for "my" gameplay experience, as much as I'd like that.
 
I can't recall how it worked with the AH1 to AH2 migration, I hope somebody sounds off with 100% accurate info on that.
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Chilli on March 31, 2016, 12:25:16 PM
Whatever is decided will be fine by me.  As far as suggestions, I would go a bit farther and suggest a mixture.  Roll the perks over, keep the achievements and stars, and for the next version add ribbons or rank for achievements earned there. 

It is a good thing, in my opinion, to be able to recognize veteran players through ordinary chat channels or rosters.  I guess, for those that horribly disagree, possibly a new option to turn off their own viewing of stars, etc.  (toggle icons type of deal).
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Scca on March 31, 2016, 12:44:28 PM
I dunno Greebo I get the feeling HT doesn't listen to what the minority of players want. <snip>
I see it differently.  I think he does listen, he also has a good grip on game dynamics and can think past the little box most people operate in. 

I can't count the times people have said "X is ruining the game, we should do Y", and HTC has come back and said "we did that before, and it didn't work as you thought it would" (or words to that effect).  :cheers:
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Ramesis on March 31, 2016, 02:03:59 PM
My memory is a little fuzzy on the AHI to AHII transition but I think
all perks were lost  :old:
Ramesis/Osiris
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: hitech on March 31, 2016, 02:16:33 PM
My memory is a little fuzzy on the AHI to AHII transition but I think
all perks were lost  :old:
Ramesis/Osiris

I do not believe there were perks at the AHI to AHII transitions?

I would not even consider resetting perks or achievements.


HiTech
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Bizman on March 31, 2016, 02:21:20 PM
IMHO it actually wouldn't matter much. Those who have lots of perks can soon get enough of them to get their perk rides. Those who don't would only get their perk ride pushed a little further in the future. The only ones who would really suffer are those who are just a couple of points away from their first perk ride.
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: Randy1 on March 31, 2016, 02:41:35 PM
I do not believe there were perks at the AHI to AHII transitions?

I would not even consider resetting perks or achievements.


HiTech

That is a bit of relief but i was willing to start at zero again since everyone else would be in the same boat.
Title: Re: Transfer of perk points............
Post by: GrandpaChaps on April 03, 2016, 02:30:08 PM
Whatever is decided will be fine by me.  As far as suggestions, I would go a bit farther and suggest a mixture.  Roll the perks over, keep the achievements and stars, and for the next version add ribbons or rank for achievements earned there. 

It is a good thing, in my opinion, to be able to recognize veteran players through ordinary chat channels or rosters.  I guess, for those that horribly disagree, possibly a new option to turn off their own viewing of stars, etc.  (toggle icons type of deal).

I have to agree with Chilli at this point.   :old: