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Title: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: FLOOB on March 28, 2016, 05:24:51 PM
"Is Our Military Ready to Fight an Overseas War?"

The story itself didn't really bother me. Just this headline. It presumes that the public is ignorant that "our military" has been fighting a war overseas for one and a half decades now. It really bothers me because there is some truth to that. And I know that it really frustrates our veterans who come home to a country that is practically oblivious to the fact that this is a country at war. Headlines like this contribute to it.
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: Brooke on March 28, 2016, 11:17:54 PM
Some news articles really are idiotic -- but some titles are intentionally bogus to get you to read the article.  "Will the Chinese really be the 1st to land a man on the moon?", etc.
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: Patches1 on March 29, 2016, 02:14:05 AM
And then there are those who are simply oblivious because their individual life has not been impacted.
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: Traveler on March 31, 2016, 09:32:00 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: NatCigg on March 31, 2016, 02:13:53 PM
not much of a history buff but America has been at war for some time now, maybe since before forever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: Zimme83 on March 31, 2016, 03:09:42 PM
"Is Our Military Ready to Fight an Overseas War?"

The story itself didn't really bother me. Just this headline. It presumes that the public is ignorant that "our military" has been fighting a war overseas for one and a half decades now. It really bothers me because there is some truth to that. And I know that it really frustrates our veterans who come home to a country that is practically oblivious to the fact that this is a country at war. Headlines like this contribute to it.

Its still a relevant question, the low intense conflicts that was/is Iraq and A-stan is not the most challenging thing the US military can do. For ex Korea 2.0 or a large conflict in South east Asia would be something different.
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: pipz on March 31, 2016, 04:12:46 PM
And then there are those who are simply oblivious because their individual life has not been impacted.

Ignorance is bliss a wot!  :old:  :D
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: morfiend on March 31, 2016, 04:47:04 PM
Ignorance is bliss a wot!  :old:  :D


 Or you could live in the wilderness near Ontario and not be affected by much except heavy snows and cold arctic air!


 But it's ok as long a you have a handy supply of snowballs!



    :salute
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: DaveBB on March 31, 2016, 04:53:35 PM
When people hear or read the war, they think of a high intensity conflict or battle: WW2, Tet Offensive, Invasion of Iraq. 
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: Zimme83 on March 31, 2016, 04:54:45 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: Traveler on March 31, 2016, 07:52:48 PM
Here is something very interesting, it shows who the USA has been at war with  and dates.  Starts with our first war in 1776 right up through present.  There is  only one seven year period between 1934 and 1941 when the USA was not at war.  Only 7 years has the USA not been involved in a shooting war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_wars_involving_the_United_States (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_wars_involving_the_United_States)
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 31, 2016, 07:57:33 PM
"Is Our Military Ready to Fight an Overseas War?"

The story itself didn't really bother me. Just this headline. It presumes that the public is ignorant that "our military" has been fighting a war overseas for one and a half decades now. It really bothers me because there is some truth to that. And I know that it really frustrates our veterans who come home to a country that is practically oblivious to the fact that this is a country at war. Headlines like this contribute to it.

When a news company comes up with something like this, are you really that surprised?
(http://cdn.newsbusters.org/images/2011/May/OsamaDeadAlive2.jpg)
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: NatCigg on April 01, 2016, 07:16:23 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: NatCigg on April 01, 2016, 07:21:23 AM
a buddy (history major) and i were talking about the ending in oregon a few weeks ago and he brought up "the whisky rebellion". This was the first major battle where the feds shot their own citizens to maintain order and rule.

 :salute

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: pipz on April 01, 2016, 07:37:33 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: Arlo on April 01, 2016, 08:08:48 AM
Where the U.S. goes Canada often follows. Unless they don't.
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: pipz on April 01, 2016, 08:12:46 AM
Where the U.S. goes Canada often follows. Unless they don't.

:old:  :)
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: Traveler on April 01, 2016, 09:22:14 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: redcatcherb412 on April 01, 2016, 11:00:57 AM
When people hear or read the war, they think of a high intensity conflict or battle: WW2, Tet Offensive, Invasion of Iraq.

I was in Tet1 Feb-Apr 68 and Tet2 May 68 as an infantry air mobile grunt.  Was pretty intense, but I would add,  ANY Grunt/Gyrene in ANY active prolonged firefight  regardless the theatre would rightly describe their conflict as high intensity.  Combat troops usually spent many hours/days/weeks in endless trudging boring patrols punctuated by those high intensity nerve shattering, bowel loosening firefights that could leave you trashed inside for days from the adrenaline rush.   :salute to anyone in uniform that had successfully survives all of the thousands pieces of hot metal seeking a lodging place in their bodies in these times.
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: guncrasher on April 01, 2016, 11:58:17 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: FLOOB on April 01, 2016, 12:10:17 PM
I was in Tet1 Feb-Apr 68 and Tet2 May 68 as an infantry air mobile grunt.  Was pretty intense, but I would add,  ANY Grunt/Gyrene in ANY active prolonged firefight  regardless the theatre would rightly describe their conflict as high intensity.  Combat troops usually spent many hours/days/weeks in endless trudging boring patrols punctuated by those high intensity nerve shattering, bowel loosening firefights that could leave you trashed inside for days from the adrenaline rush.   :salute to anyone in uniform that had successfully survives all of the thousands pieces of hot metal seeking a lodging place in their bodies in these times.

Fact: The average infantryman in the South Pacific during World War II saw about 40 days of combat in four years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 240 days of combat in one year

The phrase low intensity combat really means low press coverage combat. Not to diminish the combat experience of Vietnam but in Chuck Pfarrer's biography he describes how he and his fellow seals in Lebanon were subject to artillery barrages almost daily for about a year and, at least by his account, some of the Vietnam vets he was with said that it was worse than their tours in Vietnam. Mogadishu is very good example. The only reason that anybody has ever heard of it is because it made the news. And even then it was one or two years before people knew what actually happened, and then another several years before the public was aware.

The point i was trying to make when I started this thread is that it really irks me, and more to the point, irks this generation of war fighters when they come back to the states by and large the average attitude they are met with from their countrymen is "there's a war??".

BTW Redcatcher, I wore that 199th patch briefly in the early 90s.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: redcatcherb412 on April 01, 2016, 05:01:45 PM
BTW Redcatcher, I wore that 199th patch briefly in the early 90s.  :cheers:

 :salute and best regards to one of the best of the best,  a fellow 199th'er   :rock

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Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: GScholz on April 02, 2016, 12:49:56 AM
There are so many wars going on right now that if someone were to try and keep up with it all he wouldn't have time for anything else.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/wars.JPG)
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: stealth on April 02, 2016, 04:06:04 AM
There are so many wars going on right now that if someone were to try and keep up with it all he wouldn't have time for anything else.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/wars.JPG)
I've only been able to follow Syria and Iraq in terms of news. Even just those two hotbeds are just overloaded with everything.
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: MiloMorai on April 02, 2016, 05:53:11 PM
There are so many wars going on right now that if someone were to try and keep up with it all he wouldn't have time for anything else.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/AH/wars.JPG)

Shouldn't the USA be red with all the urban warfare there is there?
Title: Re: Just saw a "news" headline that really pissed me off.
Post by: GScholz on April 03, 2016, 03:51:54 AM
America's violent crime problem does not qualify as a civil war just yet.