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Title: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: JunkyII on March 31, 2016, 04:13:47 PM
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Zimme83 on March 31, 2016, 04:33:56 PM
wow, Are you saying that a Brewster is good in a low E turn fight against planes that doesnt turn as well (And has less E). :aok Whats next? Water is wet?
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: JunkyII on March 31, 2016, 05:10:59 PM
wow, Are you saying that a Brewster is good in a low E turn fight against planes that doesnt turn as well (And has less E). :aok Whats next? Water is wet?
I'm saying I can up this plane and on command get 5+ kills in it....easier than a TA152 but yet the Brew is a 20 eny and I fly the TA152 pretty regularly
KI43 doesn't turn as well as the Brew???? news to me....oh you see a hurri 2c in the video as well...a 10 eny plane...
I don't know...the thing is easy, upped at this base while it was being vulched and had tanks nearly on field....it's too easy for a 20 eny
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Zimme83 on March 31, 2016, 05:29:51 PM
you could have done that in any plane, I've have got 5 kills in 30 secs in a spitfire under similar circumstances. Cons low over a Town like that is like clubbing seals and those guys were apparently not very good. I don know what the guy in the pony was thinking...
An A6M or a FM2 would have done the job just as good. hurri 2 has a low eny just because of the Hispanos but it has no advantages against a Brewster. Ki:s can be dangerous if the guy flying it knows what he is doing.
This kind of fights is were a Brewster excels but if the pony only had kept his E there would have been nothing you could do about it besides trying to Dodge the BnZ attacks. You won because he screwed up, not because of your plane.
(And hurri 2C has ENY 20, not 10)
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Zimme83 on March 31, 2016, 05:32:46 PM
It was a really good run but still not proving anything other than what we already know, the Brewster is an excellent turn fighter.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 31, 2016, 07:01:49 PM
It cracks me up when people declare the B-239/F2A-1 "easy mode"....well, no watermelon Sherlock. Your film proves nothing, especially your claim that the B-239 needs to have its ENY adjusted.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: JunkyII on March 31, 2016, 07:20:29 PM
It cracks me up when people declare the B-239/F2A-1 "easy mode"....well, no watermelon Sherlock. Your film proves nothing, especially your claim that the B-239 needs to have its ENY adjusted.
I'm just saying....I don't fly the thing and can wreck in it without trying...I have to try harder in a TA152...but I fly it all the time....don't see how that doesn't prove a point....sorry it's my opinion take it or leave it....still going to call it easy mode.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Zimme83 on March 31, 2016, 07:32:25 PM
Ta-152 is a high altitude bomber interceptor, it is awesome in that role but down low it will struggle. same w the Brewster, its a slow turn fighter so hence it will be very good in a slow turn fight. But it pretty much sux in all other aspects...
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: JunkyII on March 31, 2016, 08:48:38 PM
Ta-152 is a high altitude bomber interceptor, it is awesome in that role but down low it will struggle. same w the Brewster, its a slow turn fighter so hence it will be very good in a slow turn fight. But it pretty much sux in all other aspects...
most MA fights happen below 10K, so alt doesnt matter and ENY in the MA should reflect normal MA conditions
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Zimme83 on March 31, 2016, 09:07:55 PM
It pretty much do. A Brewster has the same ENY as Moss 6, 109F and La-5. Brewster have a k/D of 0,82 and the 152 has 1,76. Its a huge difference . The I-16 has ENY 40 and it can do most thing the Brewster can + it has cannons so the ENY 30 seem rather appropriate for the Brew. A Brewster w cannons would have been a ENY 20 plane, similar to A6m5 and hurri 2c.
it can turn well yes but lacks ground attack capability and have short clips for the nose guns and that effect the ENY as well.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: JunkyII on March 31, 2016, 09:23:45 PM
It pretty much do. A Brewster has the same ENY as Moss 6, 109F and La-5. Brewster have a k/D of 0,82 and the 152 has 1,76. Its a huge difference . The I-16 has ENY 40 and it can do most thing the Brewster can + it has cannons so the ENY 30 seem rather appropriate for the Brew. A Brewster w cannons would have been a ENY 20 plane, similar to A6m5 and hurri 2c.
it can turn well yes but lacks ground attack capability and have short clips for the nose guns and that effect the ENY as well.
Brewster is a ENY 20...I might be mistaken...I just want it to be 15
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Zimme83 on March 31, 2016, 10:12:52 PM
Its eny 30...
Eny 15 would Place it in pair with 109K-4 and below planes like YAK-3 and spit IX...
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: JunkyII on April 01, 2016, 01:20:49 AM
Eny 15 would Place it in pair with 109K-4 and below planes like YAK-3 and spit IX...
20 then :)
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Zimme83 on April 01, 2016, 05:08:40 AM
Still no, not with the present gun configuration. If it had cannons and were available at carriers maybe.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Bruv119 on April 01, 2016, 06:48:52 AM
trolling bish brewsters with a zeke is alot of fun!
They be like WHATTTT he is turning twice as fast as me ----> run to momma!
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Zimme83 on April 01, 2016, 08:20:07 AM
A zero w a good pilot is a pain in the ... for a brewster but generally speaking its no problem to turn w a zeke since most people cannot handle the zeke. Brewster is much more forgiving.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: JunkyII on April 01, 2016, 10:44:07 AM
A zero w a good pilot is a pain in the ... for a brewster but generally speaking its no problem to turn w a zeke since most people cannot handle the zeke. Brewster is much more forgiving.
This post kind of goes with my side of the debate ;)
This post kind of goes with my side of the debate ;) Heck, just a little change in lift vector make most bish be like "wait what's he doing...Exploitation!!! Hacks!!! Real life plane can't do that!!!" :D
Not really, the Brewster is not too different from FM2, the Zeke on the other hand is less benign when it stall.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: DmonSlyr on April 02, 2016, 10:11:28 PM
The Brewster holds E much better than a Fm2 though.
The only problem I have with the Brewster is its vertical E retention. The plane can turn sharp as hell and still climb up with much higher E planes.
Also, the oil leak last for like 10 minutes. I expected Junky to be out of oil much earlier.
The best way to fight a Brewster is to kill it early when you both still have a lot of speed. You can catch many pilots off guard in the MA by cutting throttle and doing a quick immelman (they don't think you will get inside their immelman so they are lack initially when they have a lot of speed. ) You can pull a quick snap shot. You have to use high vertical loops against the Brewster to get them to stall out in the vertical as you roll around on top of them. I'd say the Ki84 is its biggest nemisis because it's the best at high loops.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Zimme83 on April 03, 2016, 07:17:56 AM
A Brewster is better in a turn fight than a FM2, its turns and rolls better. The FM2 on the other hand has a lot more ammo and a much better view over the nose,a great advantage when taking high angle deflection shots. Ki-43 is imo the nemesis of the Brewster, it can outrun, outturn and outclimb the Brewster so if the Brewster ends up in a turn fight w a ki-43 the ki will gradually get the upper hand.
As for most other plane the key is to keep the E-advantage, any plane that ends up w less E than a Brewster is in serious trouble but most planes can easily just extend and restore its E. When flying a Brewster most of the fight is about dodging bnz:ers and wait for a misstake.
But as you said, the Brewster hold on to the little E it has very well and its easy to underestimate how much E it has and what it could do with it. I have killed more than one lw plane because they misjudge the E and ends up hanging in the prop 200 in front of me.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: bortas1 on April 04, 2016, 12:28:54 AM
:salute still nicely done sir :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Karnak on April 05, 2016, 02:10:20 AM
Brewster holds E like a drag parachute holds E.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Vudu15 on April 05, 2016, 01:36:00 PM
cry for me...
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: JunkyII on April 05, 2016, 04:04:58 PM
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Gman on April 06, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
Agree re both the Brew and KI43 - I flew the KI43 for a few tours straight and still fly it a lot, I haven't lost to a Brew in any kind of fight yet in it, and always go straight for them when I see them, and they seem to do the same with me. In 1v1s it's over in under a minute vs a good Brew pilot - it just can't perform with the Ki, it gets out turned after a couple revolutions. In terms of a brawl/huge fight the Brew is tougher than the Ki plus has 2x better guns/ammo.
IMO Ki43 is as easy mode as the Brew, even easier in some ways, the only thing that limits it from a "5 kill every hop" is the guns/ammo load, which make 3-4 more usual, although I've had some 5 and 6 kill hops, but they are rare. The 43 is absolutely more elusive though, with good SA you can live through some pretty crazy odds.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Zimme83 on April 07, 2016, 05:37:46 AM
Agree re both the Brew and KI43 - I flew the KI43 for a few tours straight and still fly it a lot, I haven't lost to a Brew in any kind of fight yet in it, and always go straight for them when I see them, and they seem to do the same with me. In 1v1s it's over in under a minute vs a good Brew pilot - it just can't perform with the Ki, it gets out turned after a couple revolutions. In terms of a brawl/huge fight the Brew is tougher than the Ki plus has 2x better guns/ammo.
IMO Ki43 is as easy mode as the Brew, even easier in some ways, the only thing that limits it from a "5 kill every hop" is the guns/ammo load, which make 3-4 more usual, although I've had some 5 and 6 kill hops, but they are rare. The 43 is absolutely more elusive though, with good SA you can live through some pretty crazy odds.
Yep, if pilots are roughly equal the Ki-43 wins over a Brewster most of the times unless the Brewster have an initial E-advantage and get a quick kill. Same thing for Brewster vs FM2, FM2 is faster but in a turn fight the FM2 will loose ground quickly.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: JunkyII on April 07, 2016, 12:50:58 PM
I'd like to test Ki43 vs Brew....think it would actually be a close matchup.
Title: Re: Easy mode confirmed
Post by: Gman on April 07, 2016, 04:04:15 PM
Equal pilots it is close, we should DA them and switch Junky, I think you'll find it's a tough fight in a Brew vs a Ki, tougher than many think, the only thing it has is guns and the ability to absorb more damage. Like I said, I've fought a ton of Brews in the KI, I'll punch up the stats thing program again, but I know I haven't lost to one yet, but have no way of telling the quality of all the pilots, plus it's the MA, where of course there are piles of factors, SA being one of them that doesn't really matter in a straight duel.
Once the turn fight is on, in any dimension, vert or horizontal, it isn't long before the Ki comes around behind the brew, and then it's over so long as the Ki keeps it out front long enough to put enough of the weak twin 50s into it.
It's lethal IMO, for many reasons, I'm no super pilot, but have had a couple tours of over 10 kills/hour and 4+k/d in it all never climbing over 10k once. Guys like you or Bruv or any number of other KOTH type pilots would demolish in it, even more than the Brew, as it's far more elusive and your death numbers would be far less than in the Brew, while kills would only go down by one or 2 per sortie IMO due to the guns.