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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: donnieboy on April 08, 2016, 03:09:06 PM
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So I'm definitely going to have to upgrade to run AH3. Looks great even with 9-13 FPS. Don't think it will play too well though...
Here is my parts list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jMpMP6
All comments and advice welcome and appreciated.
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That Windows 7 copy is $90 dollars cheaper on Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
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Thanks Spikes. I did find it on Newegg, but Part Picker didn't show the same price. I just left it for reference.
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Other than what Spikes pointed out, I don`t think you'll find many here that have much to criticize about that build - solid affordable performance for 700$ish IMO, and will run the new game great with the 970, as well as lots of other current games.
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cd rom
semp
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Thanks for the input. The aim was best bang for the buck. It will only be used for AH. I don't play other games. Thought I would get some opinions as this will only be my second build. I'll be reusing the cd rom and h/d from current system.
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I played the beta quite a while ago but I was still able to max out the game on my GTX 750 so I don't think that a 970 is entirely worth it. I'm willing to bet that either a 950 or a 960 will perform just as well (the 960 more so) with maybe a few things off (thinking of AA being turned down a bit).
EDIT: I know that the FX series are popular for budget builds but if you really want to go with AMD I would suggest waiting until they come out with their new CPUs later this year to see if one will be in your price range. If you need a new system now then I would suggest bumping it up to a 6300 since it isn't that much more expensive.
Speaking personally I would rather go with an i3 which is more powerful and only a little bit more expensive but offers more for upgrades.
You can also pick up a copy of Windows 7 for cheap here: http://www.kinguin.net/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=windows+7
While this guy is using a copy of windows 10, the process is the same for 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXTqz3Fd28M
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So I'm definitely going to have to upgrade to run AH3. Looks great even with 9-13 FPS. Don't think it will play too well though...
Here is my parts list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jMpMP6
All comments and advice welcome and appreciated.
:salute how come your not maxing out your memory to the 64g? just wondering why. :cheers:
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Only to keep the initial cost as low as possible. I plan to add another 8GB very soon.
How much of a performance increase would the additional RAM give?
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How much of a performance increase would the additional RAM give?
Not very much. Photoshop and video editing is what you'd mostly need more than 8 GB for.
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something about having only 1 stick of ram instead of 2. and if you can afford another 100 bucks get an Intel cpu a k preferably.
semp
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something about having only 1 stick of ram instead of 2. and if you can afford another 100 bucks get an Intel cpu a k preferably.
semp
Good catch, semp!
donnieboy, get the other 8 GB or a pair of 4 GB sticks. Dual channeling craves for sticks in pairs, preferably identical ones. There's even "kits of 2" and "kits of 4" available for that reason.
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100$ would be FAR better served by sticking that money into a GPU, the performance gains in any game out there going from say a 960 to a 970, around 100$ difference depending on the brand/etc, are very measurable, where as that 100$ difference in CPU, which is almost exactly the cost difference between the i3-6300 and 6600k, if using the same video card/ram/mb/etc, isn't nearly as much. Plus if you're going to get a "k" model, you need a better cooling system in order to overclock it, which is the entire point of an unlocked CPU, as the K and non -K models perform virtually identically when clocked at the same speed. Such a cooler is another 40$ minimum for say the Evo212, which is the cheapest option by far, and a really good cooler that allows true o/c potential is going to be another 100$ easily.
I'm not sure how that AMD cpu in the OP build would perform vs an Intel "K" cpu of some type in the 100$ more costly range, not exactly, but I'm reasonably certain it won't make nearly as much difference in performance as a 100$ better video card.
I do agree though that an Intel K cpu is the way to go, so long as cost isn't a concern, but if it is and you're going to stretch for something, and obviously the OP is a budget build, if he put 100$ into a faster GPU, like a 980 on sale+rebate which can often be found for around 110 or 120$ more than a 970, it would give far greater gains in all games than going to a 100$ more costly CPU, AH3 included as the OP said this is the major game that'll be played.
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Good stuff guys. I'll definitely add another RAM card. Maybe 2x8 even. Don't want to penalize myself doing things the wrong way. The reason for my post. This is exactly the kind of advice I'm looking for and it is greatly appreciated.
I've only ever played AH and seriously doubt that will ever change. This will be a 100% dedicated machine. No surfing. No anything else. Cost is still a very big factor. I need the best value to performance ratio and stay in the $700 neighborhood.
With this said do I really need a better CPU?
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Skuzzy has been preaching the video card is the difference in this game. I think you look good with the EVGA 970 4MB Ram on board. My only concern with your set up is the power supply. You might want to pump it up to 750 over the 600. (FYI, I plan on upgrading to the NVidia 970 in a few months....). I currently have a Corsair 750 PSU. Glad I did it.
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I'd go with an Intel processor. Even a highly clocked I3 if you can't afford an I5 but I'd stick with the 970 video card. You could easily get by with 2x4Gb RAM to save a little money. I've got 16Gb DDR4 3200 and rarely use more than 19% of available memory.
A couple of late notes: If you do go Intel look for a motherboard with a Z series chipset. Depending on which generation technology you opt for the Z97 RAM sweet spot is DDR3 1600 while the Z100's is DDR4 2400. For the same amount of money you can build similar performing systems on either platform but upgradability will be longer with the newer technology.
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With this said do I really need a better CPU?
The clock rate of your choice is very good. However, in the past AMD processors weren't able to use more than one core in AH. For what I've understood the issue hasn't been totally solved, or at least it's poorly documented which processors work and which don't. In that light Intel might be a safer choice.
As BaldEagl said, even a highly clocked I3 would do perfectly well. It's a dual core one, which is sufficient for both AH2 and AH3. Changing the processor and motherboard in your pcpartpicker list raised the total to ~$840.
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Only to keep the initial cost as low as possible. I plan to add another 8GB very soon.
How much of a performance increase would the additional RAM give?
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:salute rgr that :cheers: