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Title: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 13, 2016, 03:03:38 AM
The VVS told me that AH 109 pilots are sissies who are afraid of combat -- except for Subway and Dolby (who are, they concede, skilled and brave).

The reason is that registration is open for the upcoming June Scenario, and yet there are still Bf 109G-6's available.

This is to be an Eastern Front battle, and these are the planes that were flown by:

352 kills
(http://www.luftwaffe.cz/images/hartmann.jpg)
Hartmann

301 kills
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9b/Barkhorn33.jpg/225px-Barkhorn33.jpg)
Barkhorn

275 kills
(http://www.luftwaffe.cz/images/rall1.jpg)
Rall

237 kills
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Wilhelm_Batz.jpg)
Batz

Where are the Aces High 109 pilots hiding?

 ;)
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 13, 2016, 03:07:14 AM
109 pilots should be lining up for the chance to blast these from the skies over the Dnieper River:

(http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/la-5f.jpg)

(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/world-war-2/images/4/47/Yakovlev_Yak-9.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130110040603)

(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/01/13/120113094544688939.jpg)

(http://cdn.topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335216819_rechkalov-2.jpg)

(http://i58.fastpic.ru/big/2013/1029/9a/646cbc9fcdd009356d93dc9d135a619a.jpg)
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 13, 2016, 03:07:56 AM
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/il-2/il2-camo/il2n25arrow.jpg)

(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/tu-2/tu-2camo/tu2color5.jpg)
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 13, 2016, 03:11:00 AM
More details and a link to registration are here:

http://ahevents.org/events/scenarios/current-or-next-scenario.html

(http://ahevents.org/images/stories/scenarios_images/201606_BattleOfTheDnieper/banner3.png)
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 14, 2016, 02:44:00 AM
What?  Not even one rude comment directed back my way?

Its a outrage!
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: -aper- on April 14, 2016, 07:32:13 AM
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/01/13/120113094544688939.jpg)

I see Yak-7b, Yak-9 and ... Mig-3 here. Is Mig-3 available for scenario ?
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Zimme83 on April 14, 2016, 07:59:48 AM
What?  Not even one rude comment directed back my way?

Its a outrage!


You fly like your mother! Unless she is a good pilot, then you are not flying like her.  :old:
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Randall172 on April 14, 2016, 11:08:32 AM
I click the link in your sig and hit register but it takes me to the southern conquest
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 14, 2016, 03:52:04 PM
I click the link in your sig and hit register but it takes me to the southern conquest

Randall -- thanks for letting me know! <S>!

It's all fixed now.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: ROC on April 14, 2016, 09:07:20 PM
Quote
except for Subway and Dolby (who are, they concede, skilled and brave).
Well, that's not exactly how it happened.  We said they weren't...."sissies"...... :neener:
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 15, 2016, 12:32:18 AM
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/01/13/120113094544688939.jpg)

I see Yak-7b, Yak-9 and ... Mig-3 here. Is Mig-3 available for scenario ?

No, but we do have Yak-7b's and Yak-9T's.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: JOACH1M on April 15, 2016, 01:57:49 AM
Hans didn't fly here...


No Bueno ;)
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 15, 2016, 02:46:36 AM
Hans didn't fly here...


No Bueno ;)

But, you never know:  if he had lived, maybe he would have been transferred at some point.

You should join the scenario and show what would have happened if he had been there!
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Molsman on April 15, 2016, 07:36:23 AM
these are the only sissies I see lining up for the VVS Pilots

The Rainbow sheep Warriors
(http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/bikermedic8/rainbowsheep_zpsm5niqmrp.jpg)


The Rainbow Soon to be Cooked Pigs
(http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/bikermedic8/rainbow%20pigs_zps5gisfyp7.jpg)

that is all
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: JOACH1M on April 15, 2016, 10:11:56 AM
But, you never know:  if he had lived, maybe he would have been transferred at some point.

You should join the scenario and show what would have happened if he had been there!
No doubt he would have transferred. I wonder how he would have faired against the faster late war allied planes. He was making quick work of the p40's and hurries lol.

I would do more special events but my schedule with college kinda interferes :/
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 15, 2016, 04:44:05 PM
The Rainbow sheep Warriors

I'm the purple one!
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: bustr on April 15, 2016, 05:51:33 PM
Brook are you guys setting up the Yak 9T with only the 1 12.7mm and 1 20mm option so you can have the most common variant after the Yak 7b, the Klimov M-105 PF  powered Yak 9? They started delivery in August 42 but, were in numbers by October 42 for Stalingrad. I thought that was part of Waffle's reasoning in giving the 9T two gun packages instead of building another variant.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 16, 2016, 12:00:17 AM
Brook are you guys setting up the Yak 9T with only the 1 12.7mm and 1 20mm option so you can have the most common variant after the Yak 7b, the Klimov M-105 PF  powered Yak 9? They started delivery in August 42 but, were in numbers by October 42 for Stalingrad. I thought that was part of Waffle's reasoning in giving the 9T two gun packages instead of building another variant.

This scenario's time period is late 1943.  I think the Yak-9T with the bigger cannon was in use by then along with Yaks of earlier types.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: bustr on April 16, 2016, 12:03:42 AM
I would like to thank the VVS High Command for sending 3 Yak-9T after my 109-G6 instead of 3 Yak-9. Three Yak-9 would have destroyed my G6 with gondolas quickly. The over sight of fitting that NS-37 dump truck in the nose of those Yak-9T for a fighter to fighter mission role made it possible for me to damage one and destroy another. The real Yak-9T required a fighter escort if they were to engage bombers.

It might be fairer to the special arena players to specifically use the Yak-9T with the 37mm package for shooting up ground targets. Then when the Yak-9T is reassigned to fighter duties to fight 109 and 190. Change the Yak-9T to the 20mm package which will convert it to a Yak-9 making it a bit more competitive for air to air fighter combat. From 42 on the Yak-9 was the work horse Yak before the 9u and then Yak-3 were introduced.

Tonight was my first time ever flying the G6 in any arena combat, and it was bogged down with gondolas. I'm a fair to average level fighter pilot in the game, and a "short bus window licker" to poor 1 vs 3 ACM practitioner.

Please special events coordinators, fly some matchups in the DA with the G6 and gondolas vs first the Yak-9T, then the Yak-9T converted to 20mm package. Do this from the high alt starts and the mid alt starts. Those longer wings and 300 pounds less weight in the nose would have been a kindness to the players assigned the Yak-9T for fighter combat duties.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 16, 2016, 01:24:52 AM
I would like to thank the VVS High Command for sending 3 Yak-9T after my 109-G6 instead of 3 Yak-9.

Please special events coordinators, fly some matchups in the DA...

The AH plane "Yak-9T" is available in the scenario with whichever gun package the VVS decides to use, meaning that they can use the historical Yak-9 or the historical Yak-9T, whichever they want.

Likewise, the LW can fly 109G-6's with or without gondolas as they see fit.

Me, if I were flying them, I would probably prefer to fly the Yak-9T with 20 mm (making it a Yak-9), and I definitely would prefer flying the G-6 without gondolas.

But . . . that is up to them.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: BaldEagl on April 16, 2016, 01:39:14 AM
It really won't matter which gun package their carrying as they fall from the skies.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 16, 2016, 01:56:12 AM
It really won't matter which gun package their carrying as they fall from the skies.

That's the spirit!  :aok

But . . . only if you get some pilots to actually fly those shiny, new Bf 109G-6's all lined up and ready to go.  :airplane:

Time to fill that roster.  :banana:

Where are those 109 pilots hiding?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Crash Orange on April 16, 2016, 02:36:09 AM
Does the game model the CoG shift from the different gun packages, or just the extra weight?
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 16, 2016, 03:50:40 AM
Does the game model the CoG shift from the different gun packages, or just the extra weight?

Not sure.  My guess would be that it does model CG, too (given that it does model it for fuel tanks).
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: bustr on April 16, 2016, 02:41:27 PM
If FSO will continue to give the VVS side the Yak-9T, maybe add a note to suggest the 20mm package will have a more harmonious good ride garbage ride outcome above 8k than the 37mm package. Those three Yak-9T were lucky it was me in that G6 and not one of my other squad mates who actually flys 109s. Junky was up in a 109 and would have eaten them for Scooby snacks in a few passes. I got lucky because one appeared to stall in front of my nose.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Zimme83 on April 16, 2016, 03:03:28 PM
Seems fair to use the -9T instead of the 9U, quite big difference in performance between the two and the -9T is more equal to its counterparts in this scenario.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: bustr on April 16, 2016, 03:18:24 PM
The Yak-9T in our stable has a 20mm option which then makes it the Yak-9. That was the work horse for the VVS and competitive with the G6. I know this scenario is called the gates of warsaw. I'm not sure the VVS and Luft fought air battles between 25k and 30k like we do in all scenario s.o.p.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 17, 2016, 12:15:09 AM
This scenario is the battle of the dnieper, late 1943. Fsos are different events.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 17, 2016, 12:17:11 AM
The Yak-9T in our stable has a 20mm option which then makes it the Yak-9. That was the work horse for the VVS and competitive with the G6. I know this scenario is called the gates of warsaw. I'm not sure the VVS and Luft fought air battles between 25k and 30k like we do in all scenario s.o.p.

Also this scenario has alt caps. 12k for bombers and 20k for fighters.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 17, 2016, 01:59:57 AM
Bustr are you going to fly a 109 in the scenario?  I hope that  you will fly in it.  Please join us.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: bustr on April 17, 2016, 08:21:37 PM
Last Friday night, 109 G6, 2 kills 3 assists.

Waystin said he was short on bodies and wanted my help. The Friday before last, G14, zilch. Fortunes of war. When Waystin asks me, I show up to help POTW.

Yak-9T with 20mm package is a Yak-9 introduced in 42 and fought to the end of the war. Yak-9T was introduced after the Yak-9. It sucks above about 8k.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 17, 2016, 09:24:19 PM
So, how about taking a 109G-6 in the upcoming Scenario "The Battle of the Dnieper"?  What do you say?
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: bustr on April 18, 2016, 10:55:11 AM
If Waystin needs the boots I'll be his wingman as I ever have for the Pigs. Just like WW2, I get him home as my only task. Since about 2006 with the old 56th and some number of grose sllongs during the fall on the allies side as escort, and other calls to duty by Waystin. Scenarios make my butt hurt from sitting for all those hours staring at clouds and the ground.
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: JunkyII on April 18, 2016, 03:40:05 PM
I can't commit to only missing one event or I would join this one....alt limits and the plane caught my eye :aok
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 18, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
I can't commit to only missing one event or I would join this one....alt limits and the plane caught my eye :aok

Please do show up to fly on any day you are available.  There are almost always spots for walkon pilots and it would be great to have you fly in it.  :aok
Title: Re: VVS says you 109 pilots are sissies, except for...
Post by: Brooke on April 18, 2016, 03:46:51 PM
If Waystin needs the boots I'll be his wingman as I ever have for the Pigs. Just like WW2, I get him home as my only task. Since about 2006 with the old 56th and some number of grose sllongs during the fall on the allies side as escort, and other calls to duty by Waystin. Scenarios make my butt hurt from sitting for all those hours staring at clouds and the ground.

Waystin is in Yak-7b's in this one.  I'm sure he'd like you to fly on VVS if you want to or on LW side if you prefer that.

Filling up the scenario is most important no matter which side you are on.

So, please do sign up if you are available, whichever side you choose.