Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: NatCigg on June 16, 2016, 09:48:44 AM
Factcheck.me says
"The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."
Now thats just funny right there. The name Gersh Kuntzman comes to mind. :rofl
"Even in semi-automatic mode, it is very simple to squeeze off two dozen rounds before you even know what has happened."
Yep thats Bull
"If illegally modified to fully automatic mode, it doesn’t take any imagination to see dozens of bodies falling in front of your barrel."
I dont think this guy should be allowed to fire a gun. To many video games and news stories in his mind.
“There should be expanded background checks — extending into your family, friends and associates,” he said. “And there should be a mental health screening"
yup. correct.
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2673187.1465916231!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/20160614-ar15gunshop-still2.jpg) "Gersh Kuntzman works with gun ghop owner Frank Stelmach on how to handle the AR-15."
dood, get your face off that bazooka. :rofl
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: briansold on June 16, 2016, 10:34:59 AM
Geez I wonder if he saw a mushroom cloud down range
Title: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Maverick on June 16, 2016, 10:58:09 AM
First off it lives and makes it's living writing in ny. That alone should tell you something. Secondly it is a prime example of a nebbish (look it up, I did not make up the term). This is the kind of "product" ineffectual childrearing can be responsible for. It is deserving only of pity and contempt. Pity as it continues to waste oxygen, and contempt for the parents that wasted effort on conceiving and raising that waste of protoplasm.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Wiley on June 16, 2016, 10:58:36 AM
Maybe he should refrain from comparisons to other weapons he has never fired. :bhead
It is my sincere hope that the truly stupid have a moment where they see a comment like this, and/or come to the realization on their own, and go, "Holy crap! I am a complete idiot!" Sadly, I have never seen it happen.
Wiley.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Blooz on June 16, 2016, 12:47:16 PM
First off it lives and makes it's living writing in ny. That alone should tell you something. Secondly it is a prime example of a nebbish...
I think you ought not refer to another person as an 'it' regardless of how much contempt you have for them or how much you disagree with their opinion.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Shuffler on June 16, 2016, 01:27:23 PM
I think you ought not refer to another person as an 'it' regardless of how much contempt you have for them or how much you disagree with their opinion.
In today's world you can't look at a person and tell if they are a man or a woman. Many seem to accept that. It is the best way to refer to a person who has not said what they are.
Today's society believes you are what you say, not what you are or do.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: nrshida on June 16, 2016, 01:37:54 PM
In today's world you can't look at a person and tell if they are a man or a woman. Many seem to accept that. It is the best way to refer to a person who has not said what they are.
Today's society believes you are what you say, not what you are or do.
Just Crocodile Dundee them. It's almost infallible. I think the gender of the journalist is clear if you look at the article.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Gman on June 16, 2016, 04:05:09 PM
I don't think the author had ever fired a gun before, or was lying if he had, if he felt the AR15 has "horrifying". After getting my first single shot 12 guage at 13, I didn't buy a magazine fed semi auto until 16. I had 3 years of shooting a very light, shooting average load 12 guage rounds by the time I first shot an Ar15 A2 heavy barrel. The first thing I thought was "wtf is this sproiiing" sound (the buffer tube/spring working in the fixed stock always makes this sound/feeling), and the second was "wow, this doesn't recoil very much at all". Any adult trying to make the Ar15 or any 556 auto loading rifle seem "horrifying" is either very, very inexperienced, as in 1st timer pretty much, OR, has an obvious agenda to make such rifles seem "scary".
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying BS
Post by: Shuffler on June 16, 2016, 04:18:30 PM
I had to laugh at this so call author's letter pushing his agenda. Then again at any so called news site that would call it news. A petite girly girl would be considered a brute in comparison to this "writer".
The AR 15 is favored by sportsmen and hunters. Killers or mass murderers just like anything that kills.
He should move to Chicago where it is safer... you know with the stringent gun laws and all.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: KCDitto on June 16, 2016, 06:30:11 PM
YEA BAZOOKA... uuugh NO RECOIL
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Meatwad on June 16, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
According to the followup on the same page he wrote, apparently whoever disagrees with him strongly is a troll
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Serenity on June 16, 2016, 07:50:59 PM
I think you ought not refer to another person as an 'it' regardless of how much contempt you have for them or how much you disagree with their opinion.
"IT" isn't fit to lick the excrement from my boots. It's one thing to have a differing opinion. This is beyond a difference of opinion, and any so-called journalist should be ashamed of such a terrible "article".
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: puller on June 16, 2016, 08:04:27 PM
"IT" isn't fit to lick the excrement from my boots. It's one thing to have a differing opinion. This is beyond a difference of opinion, and any so-called journalist should be ashamed of such a terrible "article".
:aok
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying
Post by: caldera on June 16, 2016, 08:11:26 PM
It is my sincere hope that the truly stupid have a moment where they see a comment like this, and/or come to the realization on their own, and go, "Holy crap! I am a complete idiot!" Sadly, I have never seen it happen.
Wiley.
Even if he does realize how wrong he is, it will not override his will to push the agenda of gun confiscation. The end always justifies the means with people so single-minded of purpose, that they will even lie to themselves.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: nrshida on June 16, 2016, 09:24:35 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Devil 505 on June 16, 2016, 09:28:48 PM
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: nrshida on June 17, 2016, 01:05:17 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Brooke on June 17, 2016, 03:50:27 AM
I looked at an AR-15 once and was overcome with an involuntary tremor and spastic loss of sphincter and bladder control. It left me with severe ongoing failure of logical reasoning and inability to express an opinion that isn't saturated with embarrassingly inept, transparent propaganda.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Vraciu on June 17, 2016, 04:24:51 AM
"It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon."
Another clueless reporter.
I saw that on American Thinker. Hilarious.
What a wimp. My daughter has been shooting ARs since she was six or seven. She loves it. My son got a later start as I didn't own any ARs until he was a few years older than that. Both also have been shooting handguns and target rifle .22s since around age six.
This author sounds like a caricature in a comedy film.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15?
Post by: Vraciu on June 17, 2016, 04:25:46 AM
I looked at an AR-15 once and was overcome with an involuntary tremor and spastic loss of sphincter and bladder control. It left me with severe ongoing failure of logical reasoning and inability to express an opinion that isn't saturated with embarrassingly inept, transparent propaganda.
:rofl :aok :cheers:
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: FLOOB on June 17, 2016, 05:01:54 AM
"The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."
His shoulder was bruised by a rifle that doesn't kick?
Cut to an old lady on a vacation cruise ship skeet shooting with a shotgun.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Kanth on June 17, 2016, 08:14:35 AM
I looked at an AR-15 once and was overcome with an involuntary tremor and spastic loss of sphincter and bladder control. It left me with severe ongoing failure of logical reasoning and inability to express an opinion that isn't saturated with embarrassingly inept, transparent propaganda.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Ratsy on June 17, 2016, 09:19:58 AM
I was 15 when I first fired an M-14 loaded with NATO ammunition (.762?).
BOOM-BOOM!
I'm glad the gun-guy escort hid his. The reporter might have had limbs fall off.
Sad.
"We must remove the wet blanket of political correctness." - Jim Kallstrom, FBI - Retired, 6-16-2016, on Fox News
:salute
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: nrshida on June 17, 2016, 10:06:34 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Nefarious on June 17, 2016, 10:26:16 AM
"The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."
I tried to eat Fruit Loops once. The spoon hurt my eye, which can happen if you jam a spoon into your eye. The multicolored bits of cereal disoriented me as they floated in the milk. The smell of artificial fruit flavorings made me sick. The crunchiness -- loud like the destruction of worlds -- gave me a temporary form of HSoP (hysterical soiling of pants). For at least seven months after (and long before) eating Fruit Loops for just a few times, I was anxious, irritable, and laughably prissy.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Meatwad on June 17, 2016, 12:27:11 PM
I tried to eat Fruit Loops once. The spoon hurt my eye, which can happen if you jam a spoon into your eye. The multicolored bits of cereal disoriented me as they floated in the milk. The smell of artificial fruit flavorings made me sick. The crunchiness -- loud like the destruction of worlds -- gave me a temporary form of HSoP (hysterical soiling of pants). For at least seven months after (and long before) eating Fruit Loops for just a few times, I was anxious, irritable, and laughably prissy.
Thats because it is a CMD (Cereal of Mass Destruction). It must be banned otherwise we will all suffer unfathomable consequences of having it readily available for purchase by anyone
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Mar on June 17, 2016, 12:55:00 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very l
Post by: puller on June 17, 2016, 01:10:34 PM
I've always wondered what destruction smelled like :noid
I tried to eat Fruit Loops once. The spoon hurt my eye, which can happen if you jam a spoon into your eye. The multicolored bits of cereal disoriented me as they floated in the milk. The smell of artificial fruit flavorings made me sick. The crunchiness -- loud like the destruction of worlds -- gave me a temporary form of HSoP (hysterical soiling of pants). For at least seven months after (and long before) eating Fruit Loops for just a few times, I was anxious, irritable, and laughably prissy.
See rule #4 :old: I have a moral obligation to turn you in for crimes of insensitivity. It is unacceptable to to make sarcastic remarks that flame a individuals perspective. I find extremely unlikely that you experienced such pain from something I enjoy and understand very well, this makes you a weapon of mass distraction, so now we are looking at two war crimes, buddy. And I definitely dont want to any more complaints about freedom, economics, respect, pulling your own weight, or face to face communication. Please, If you dont have something nice to say about me, be quiet. Im resting for the big festival tomorrow and i dont want my eyes baggy. TY
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: BuckShot on June 17, 2016, 01:23:26 PM
Micro aggressions! Where is the safe zone?!?
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: MiloMorai on June 17, 2016, 02:19:34 PM
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: ROC on June 17, 2016, 05:01:59 PM
I am growing more and more convinced that at some point in the near future, the pacifist, unarmed vegans are going to royally piss off the armed carnivores. That won't end well.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Kazaa on June 17, 2016, 06:04:56 PM
I've never shot a gun in my life. But just going of factual data, I came to the conclusion that this is pure scaremongering.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Someguy63 on June 17, 2016, 09:15:55 PM
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: KCDitto on June 17, 2016, 09:36:54 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: DaveBB on June 18, 2016, 06:39:53 AM
The most horrifying part about shooting an AR-15 was realizing I was wasting 50 cents every time I pulled the trigger to shoot a stationary target. "Why am I doing this instead of shooting clay pigeons with my Remington 870?" Then I looked around at the range and saw everyone with their high tech, modded out rifles. I'm not sure if it is genetic or transmittable, but I got out of there after finishing a few magazines so I wouldn't catch baby noodle disease like the rest of those guys had.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: wil3ur on June 18, 2016, 09:34:09 AM
Imagine if he got ahold of one of these... He'd be a mass of quivering jello hiding in a fuhrerbunker waiting for the end:
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Serenity on June 18, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: saggs on June 18, 2016, 05:44:06 PM
Read this a few days ago. If I didn't know better I would have sworn it was a excellent piece of satire.
Personally I think he just made stuff up. I don't think it's possible to bruise your shoulder with .223, no matter how poorly shouldered. And how on earth are shells flying in front of his face, when the picture clearly shows him shooting a RH rifle from the RH shoulder? Now the owner of the gun store he went shooting at has come out and said that Kuntzman mis-represented many of his statements.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: nrshida on June 19, 2016, 01:08:38 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Gman on June 19, 2016, 01:19:07 AM
The whole "bruised shoulder" thing really is the cymbal crash of dishonesty in the whole article. I don't think it's even possible to GET a bruised shoulder from a 223/556 AR rifle. Even a very, VERY light bolt action 223/556 like say, my Steyr Scout rifle - no WAY. I've let my 13 year old niece shoot that, and she's never once had a bruise, and she's under 100lbs ffs.
Someone should do a Youtube video testing various AR in a muscle shirt or whatever, holding it different slight differences away from the shoulder just to try and force it to impact and "bruise". I doubt it would. IF it did, it sure wouldn't be a big one. Shooting a single shot 12 gauge and holding it loosely - ya ok, but come on.
7 year old probably 50lb-ish girl shooting an AR carbine with a typical telescoping stock - she isn't pulling it in tight like a new shooter would do like the reporter who would be 3x her weight at least, and it's barely, barely pushing her, I doubt enough to bruise her through her jacket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-qAlU4ODM
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: KCDitto on June 19, 2016, 01:19:42 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: wil3ur on June 19, 2016, 01:26:57 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Brooke on June 19, 2016, 02:34:04 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Vraciu on June 19, 2016, 03:21:42 AM
The author makes a great case AGAINST any attempt to ban these. They're obviously unshootable and far more dangerous to the shooter than anyone else. :rofl
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: nrshida on June 19, 2016, 04:53:39 AM
Lots of words have been hijacked and are used to mean something completely different from (and sometimes opposite to) the correct original meaning.
Thank you for a reasoned and sensible proposition Brooke. So shines a good deed in this weary forum. I'm sure this is the case here. Seems ironic to the point of astonishment that a culture would object to progression while at the same time benefitting directly form it, even the glaring example of the very rifle that's being discussed in this thread.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Serenity on June 19, 2016, 11:10:57 AM
Ah name-calling. Well Lassie, if it's your core belief and go-to stratergy is that anyone that differs in opinion with you is in denial, deluded or misguided then your position (whatever it is) isn't really of any logical or rigorous value at all now is it?
I am sorry
skippy is NOT name calling. It is like Dude or bud or buddy or mate, I am sorry and meant no derogatory meaning of it.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: nrshida on June 19, 2016, 12:27:13 PM
skippy is NOT name calling. It is like Dude or bud or buddy or mate, I am sorry and meant no derogatory meaning of it.
Crikey, I was anticipating a fuss of enormous magnitude. I looked up Skippy on an urban dictionary and found a definition which read "Any misguided individual who is in blatant denial and/or so completely deluded as to be completely beyond reasoning with. Sometimes used to address just any hapless individual" and given the context...
Very civilised of you but no need to apologise, just a misunderstaning in the context of a forum where things go south more rapidly than a P-51D co alt with a Spitfire. :salute
I like to discuss things and provoke thought. Probably should find another forum really :rofl
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: KCDitto on June 19, 2016, 12:36:30 PM
I am a technical Educator and have 30 students every 3 weeks.. I have given up trying to learn names, so I use that on a daily basis.
I also use Sparky, dude, dudette and even dumb bellybutton on occasion when action warrants it.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: wil3ur on June 19, 2016, 12:46:49 PM
I prefer Scooter and Hoss
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: KCDitto on June 19, 2016, 01:05:28 PM
Gersh Kuntzman works for that rag called the Daily News. The NY Post has petitioned to have his "man card" revoked for claiming that his one time shooting of the semi-auto AR-15 rifle gave him PTSD.
By the way, I find his last name offensive, yet utterly definitive.
Title: Re: What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud
Post by: Widewing on July 03, 2016, 04:16:33 PM