General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Invictus84 on August 02, 2016, 06:37:23 AM
Title: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 02, 2016, 06:37:23 AM
Despite the seemingly pessimistic but good intentioned post or two, I have enjoyed flying the beta for the past several weeks and plan to subscribe once AHIII is released. It is a long overdue update to a classic, but good things come to those who wait. I look forward to shooting everyone down in my Emil. :rofl ;)
I'm also excited about the pending release of the Team Fusion 5.0 patch for IL-2 Cliffs of Dover. If you've not tried CLoD, you are missing out on some fun. CLoD isn't perfect, but it has come a long way from the old days when it was released in a unfinished state. The Team Fusion team has done a terrific job bringing it together. I'm especially looking forward to the new theater:
Add in the new stuff for DCS like the F5E and my growing love/hate relationship with BoS, the next few months will be like Christmas. :aok
If anyone wants to give CLoD a go and would like some help getting started, PM me here or on the ATAG forums. It won't replace your love for AH, but I personally find it fun and I am happy to help.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: puller on August 02, 2016, 08:48:50 AM
This belongs in the o'club...
No one here wants an add or whatever the hell that imbed is (not clicking on it to give it more clicks) for a different games....this is the ACES HIGH Bulletin Board...not Il2, not war blunder, not RoF or any others....
Perhaps you should subscribe now and play AHII with us or go to the other game's forums and tell them about AH...
Did you even play AHII?
How long did you play AHII?
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: zack1234 on August 02, 2016, 09:42:15 AM
I have Cliffs of Dover with team fusion patches and ROF.
I am trying to find time to set up Hotas for CLOD.
:)
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: nooby52 on August 02, 2016, 09:45:58 AM
What Puller said, +1.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 02, 2016, 10:21:34 AM
Apologies for putting this in the wrong forum subgroup. My post was early before my morning coffee. :frown:
I do not currently play AH II, nor plan to do so. As I said, I like what I see with AH III and plan to subscribe once it is released.
I do indeed tell others about AH II and the beta. I've had a few try the beta and some did like it, others not so much. I suppose it is an acquired taste.
Why are you so hostile towards other games? Other flight sim forums have postings about other games, why is AH any different? Let me ask you, do YOU post about AH in other forums? If you are so concerned about getting new players, what are you doing to pull them in? Stop being so insular and you might find you can pull in new subscribers. If anything, your overreaction to a simple mistake can be very off-putting to a new subscriber.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 02, 2016, 10:23:04 AM
Apologies for putting this in the wrong forum subgroup. My post was early before my morning coffee. :frown:
I do not currently play AH II, nor plan to do so. As I said, I like what I see with AH III and plan to subscribe once it is released.
I do indeed tell others about AH II and the beta. I've had a few try the beta and some did like it, others not so much. I suppose it is an acquired taste.
Why are you so hostile towards other games? Other flight sim forums have postings about other games, why is AH any different? Let me ask you, do YOU post about AH in other forums? If you are so concerned about getting new players, what are you doing to pull them in? Stop being so insular and you might find you can pull in new subscribers. If anything, your overreaction to a simple mistake can be very off-putting to a new subscriber.
Agreed
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: zack1234 on August 02, 2016, 11:34:09 AM
Invictus, I clicked on your signature showing your youtube channel. Maybe I did something wrong but I can't seem to find any Aces High Videos.
You are correct. I've only been Twitch streaming and doing YouTube videos for about 2 years. I left before that.
I've tried to stream the beta a few times but all I came up with is a black screen. Looks like it is an issue with my OBS configuration. I haven't had time to figure it out due to real life and such.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Krupinski on August 02, 2016, 05:32:10 PM
IL-2: Battle of Stalingrad is 100x better :neener:
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 02, 2016, 06:49:57 PM
IL-2: Battle of Stalingrad is 100x better :neener:
Sacrilege! :D
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Vudak on August 02, 2016, 10:46:23 PM
So how do all these games work, anyway?
Are they Axis v. Allies? Limited plane set? Any one have my beloved Hog? Is there a persistent world to capture bases or what is kind of the point of each sortie (aside from shooting down bad guys)? How do the view systems work? Can you use a hat switch easily? I have a full CH set up but no trackir or vr or any of that stuff. I play on a laptop and don't have the USB ports for it (or likely power given I have a 980M and I think most vr needs something more than that).
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Krupinski on August 03, 2016, 01:23:47 AM
Are they Axis v. Allies? Limited plane set? Any one have my beloved Hog? Is there a persistent world to capture bases or what is kind of the point of each sortie (aside from shooting down bad guys)? How do the view systems work? Can you use a hat switch easily? I have a full CH set up but no trackir or vr or any of that stuff. I play on a laptop and don't have the USB ports for it (or likely power given I have a 980M and I think most vr needs something more than that).
Axis vs. Allies? Yes
Limited plane set? The newer IL-2 games focus on particular battles rather than the whole war, so yes this limits the plane sets, but it also allows them to go into much greater detail with the flight models and 3D models than what you see in War Thunder or even Aces High. It actually feels like you're flying through air, and your aircraft acts as such... it's not like the vacuum effect in other games. The game is full of little things like contrails swirling from the prop wash, feathered props get pushed by the air when you do an aileron roll, people run from their vehicles when you strafe a convoy... small features but they add a lot to your immersion.
Supposedly DCS:World is working on a late war F4U with an Iwo Jima map, I'm pretty hyped for that!
Mission makers can pretty much do anything they want, base capturing included... but the most common theme you're going to see is objective based. Both teams will have bridges/tanks/factories/ports.. etc on their side of the front lines. You can either defend your territory, attack theirs... whatever you want. Whoever destroys the other sides objectives first wins the battle.
I think the view systems are pretty standard, like any other sim.. the devs know not everyone uses TrackIR.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 03, 2016, 06:23:17 AM
Agreed on all points. I'd only add that the plane sets are not quite as limiting as you might think. Each plane in BoD, DCS or CLoD takes time to understand and master due to the additional details of the FM. This has a real impact on how you fly and fight. Example: CLoD's FM is more limited than BoS or DCS but the same applies even across minor model variations. The standard 109E4 in CLoD feels different than the 109E3 which requires manual prop management. The same can be said for 109E4N, the fastest of the 109s, or the 109E4/B which is my personal favorite and (IMO) the best plane in the game below 3000 meters. Nothing can out accelerate it and at high speed it is the most nimble of the 109s except perhaps for the 109E1. The point is learning each takes time. The same can be said for BoS planes.
Armament and ballistics modeling is also more advanced in BoS and CLoD. CLoD has the more advanced armament model of the two. You can set up custom loadouts for each gun and cannon for each variant, and these changes have a very real effect on the damage you inflict on enemy planes. Some of the best Spit pilots use loadouts of armor piercing rounds that tend to cause more pilot kills, others use a high mix of incendiary and incendiary tracer rounds which have a higher chance of setting engine, fuel or control surface fires. This is also true in BoS but to a less complex and flexible extent.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 03, 2016, 06:28:32 AM
Oh, and if you don't think you can have a fun furball in these games...think again.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Vudak on August 03, 2016, 11:14:34 AM
They sound neat and I might pick one up, but I'm less interested in BoB or early Russian Front than the Pacific and the 8th AF offensive over Germany. Sounds like they don't really offer that?
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Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 03, 2016, 11:43:48 AM
Nope. Rumor has it that 777 Studios might be working on a BoS follow-up for the Pacific, but I don't think that is confirmed.
The Team Fusion 5.0 patch is rumored intoduce British F4F Wildcats (Marlets) for the new North African theater. It isn't a F4U, but it is a start if you like American Blue Navy rides. Of course you will also be flying it against the new bf109F4s. Not exactly a fair fight. :D
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Vudak on August 03, 2016, 11:57:53 AM
The Team Fusion 5.0 patch is rumored intoduce British F4F Wildcats (Marlets) for the new North African theater. It isn't a F4U, but it is a start if you like American Blue Navy rides. Of course you will also be flying it against the new bf109F4s. Not exactly a fair fight. :D
I fly everything as though I'm flying a Spitfire. It keeps life simple =) An F4f will do just fine!
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Krupinski on August 03, 2016, 12:11:22 PM
There's a P40 in Battle of Moscow (add on to BoS) though it's a pain in the arse to fly, the engine is literally made of glass and will break if you don't nurture it like a baby lol
Somebody will make a Pacific sim sometime in the future I'm sure.. It'd be a beautiful game and would probably attract people just for the scenery & carrier ops.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: oboe on August 03, 2016, 02:40:41 PM
There's a P40 in Battle of Moscow (add on to BoS) though it's a pain in the arse to fly, the engine is literally made of glass and will break if you don't nurture it like a baby lol
Somebody will make a Pacific sim sometime in the future I'm sure.. It'd be a beautiful game and would probably attract people just for the scenery & carrier ops.
It's my understanding the P-40's Allison engine was known for being rugged. Wonder why they modeled it as fragile?
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 03, 2016, 03:37:17 PM
It's my understanding the P-40's Allison engine was known for being rugged. Wonder why they modeled it as fragile?
*cough* Russian Bias *cough cough*
:)
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Krupinski on August 03, 2016, 04:53:31 PM
It has manual RPM control so it's easy to push it passed safe operating limits... Also in a dive the governor doesn't always keep up so if you don't throttle/rpm back quick enough your engine goes pop! Is it too fragile? Probably so... but it's not impossible to fly.
Also their data on the P40 is probably from Russian testing of it during WW2, not the U.S. testing.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: MrRee on August 03, 2016, 06:31:28 PM
Inv & Krup I spit in your general direction. ::pootooheeyy:: :t
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 03, 2016, 07:19:42 PM
:confused:
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Shuffler on August 03, 2016, 08:21:16 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: puller on August 03, 2016, 08:37:39 PM
Oh, and if you don't think you can have a fun furball in these games...think again.
So I watched that, and I thought: What's so special about this?
Am I missing something?
- oldman
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Krupinski on August 03, 2016, 09:33:32 PM
Invictus has played Aces High in the past, it's not all about this game.. some people here enjoy playing other sims, or are thinking about doing so.. if you have a problem with that, I'll remind you that this is the O'club where we're free to discuss such things. Do us a favor and go back to the General Discussion sub forum please. :aok
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 03, 2016, 09:36:00 PM
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Vudak on August 03, 2016, 11:14:37 PM
I guess we could go with the narrative that Invictus is some troll seeking to siphon off our player base... But... He also might just be a guy who is enthusiastic about flight Sims in general and might be a fun addition to our community when AH3 comes out if we don't burn him at the stake before it gets here.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Vudak on August 03, 2016, 11:16:02 PM
Invictus has played Aces High in the past, it's not all about this game.. some people here enjoy playing other sims, or are thinking about doing so.. if you have a problem with that, I'll remind you that this is the O'club where we're free to discuss such things. Do us a favor and go back to the General Discussion sub forum please. :aok
Invictus wears sandles with socks! How can you defend a person committing a outrage of such depravity?:old:
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Mar on August 04, 2016, 02:41:55 AM
Wow. Brilliant. Seriously. Good job. Way to make him feel welcome. Way to show that this is a friendly community.
Who the hell cares if he's posting about other games or not? Are you gonna hate him and chase him out with a pitchfork just because he's not buying what you're selling? Are you telling me that the chance to talk with folks, get to know people, and make friends while conducting himself with the utmost respect is gunna cost him fifteen bucks?
How long have you been playing the game Shuffler? Puller? How long does it take for someone to forget we used to treat others with respect here? What would you have thought of us if you were told "Play our game or GTFO we don't want anything to do with you" when you first heard about AH?
Let's even go so far as to say that he was never even planning on subscribing in the first place. SO WHAT!? Is it your intention to have him go back to his other games and communities with your obnoxious and stuck-up behavior fresh in his mind?
Do you want him to think that he made the right decision by not subscribing, or do you want him to think that he's missing out on a lot of great potential friendships? Do you want him to think that we hate all those that don't join our exclusive club, or that we're welcoming and friendly to anyone even if they're just passing through? Do you want him to think this environment will be even more demanding and stressful than his job, or that he can come here, relax, and have a good time?
Has this community become so toxic as to require new members to purchase their own HAZMAT suit before even approaching? I have seen nearly everything I just wrote posted over and over, and it seems it has been completely ignored even by the members of this community that have been here long enough to know better. Is this what this community wanted all along?
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Skuzzy on August 04, 2016, 06:44:24 AM
It is not the business of any player to come into the forums and judge others. If a line gets crossed, that is for the staff at HTC to decide. The tools are available, if you wish to report a post, and that is what players are limited to.
Mar's post is pretty much spot on and I would have said the same thing, so it will stand.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Shuffler on August 04, 2016, 03:13:07 PM
It's Hitech house so if he wants to let folks tromp dirt in its his choice. I'll stay out of it.
The numbers have nothing to do with what I told that guy advertising other games. I help folks in the game as much or more than most of you.
I have not only been subscribed consistently for many years I have also paid for others who were going through tight times. Until now I have never said a word about it.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: zack1234 on August 04, 2016, 03:46:17 PM
So what about the sandles ?
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Mar on August 04, 2016, 04:02:17 PM
Maybe he has a foot condition and still really likes sandals?
What about Shuffler eh?? He wears boots to the pool!
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 04, 2016, 04:18:14 PM
I figure I should address a few things which I hope will not cause further drama. I will try hard not to do so, but I will also give you my honest perspective and this will no doubt rub some the wrong way. I sincerely apologize for this in advance.
First, I'm not here to recruit players away. The idea I'm trying to steal players away is laughable. I realize some of you do not frequent other forums or play other games, but DCS, BoS and CLoD really do not have a shortage of players.
Second, I like air combat sims and am passionate about them. I assumed others here shared that passion, but I see the passion here for many is only for Aces High. Fair enough, it is a great game at its heart. If you like steak and want to eat steak all the time I think you should! I like a bit more variety in my diet but that's my call as well. To each there own, live and let live, and all that jazz.
Third, I am here because I decided to try the beta again and found to my surprise I really like where the game is going. The beta is a little bit more than just the re-skin of the engine I assumed it would be and I think I can see where some of the changes will address player concerns.
So why not just sign up now? Why wait for AHIII?
Here is where my honesty will ruffle feathers, but I don't see any reason why I should tiptoe around these points.
AHII is boring. The graphics and the sounds (even with soundpacks) are 10 years old at best. There are no clouds or weather effects and the terrain looks like something lifted from the original Combat Mission. The flight model is good for what it is, but is a pale shadow of even the least accurate sim FMs I regularly play. So not much so far to motivate me to pony up 15 bucks a month.
I know that AH's big selling point isn't graphics or FM but the massive-multiplayer aspects of the game. The only problem is there are not currently enough players to take advantage of this. I remember how big the maps are, and I can guess what a player population of ~150 users will look like. Sorry if this hurts your feelings guys, but if I want to fly around and not encounter anyone to shoot I'll just fire up Hyperlobby and connect to a IL-2 1946 server. I can do that for free and save 15 dollars. I can also get on the ATAG, Wings of Liberty or the 104th Phoenix servers on a good night and be in a big fight in 5-10 minutes tops. And again, I can do this for free, so do the math.
I could go into other things that are turn-offs, but the post above says it better than I can.
Personally, I think the beta will attract many players back. I am excited about AH III. More players will allow the massive-multiplayer aspect to shine. That's what made AH fun, and that is why I would choose to play it over my other games. AH III's tweaking the map sizes and update the graphics engine to something approaching current minimum standards is icing on the cake. So once it's out, I'm back in. Until then, no can do. If you have a problem with it, well, I think you can guess how much I care about that.
Again, if I have offended anyone with my candor I sincerely apologize and wish you all the best. :salute
Invictus has played Aces High in the past, it's not all about this game.. some people here enjoy playing other sims, or are thinking about doing so.. if you have a problem with that, I'll remind you that this is the O'club where we're free to discuss such things. Do us a favor and go back to the General Discussion sub forum please. :aok
Thanks Krup. No need to get yourself in trouble over me, but I appreciate the support. :salute
It seems like an AvA where people have to show up. That part seems pretty cool for now and then.
Yes and no. That's from a running map on the server that is available 24x7, not an "event" like AvA. The map and mission changes every 4 hours or earlier if one team completes it's objectives. Essentially it is similar to the MA, but has some AvA elements to it.
Right now there are 65 people on the ATAG main server. The server can handle up to 100. Doesn't seem like much in comparison to AH, but the maps are somewhat smaller and there are other factors that keep it interesting.
For IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad the top populated server is Wings of Liberty in Russia. Very similar setup to the ATAG server, but they have much more impressive statistic information for players if you are into that sort of thing.
Again, it won't replace your Aces High addition, nor am I trying to recruit anyone! But if you like to try different combat sims like I do I think you will find it fun. Sometimes it is nice to eat something other than steak! ;)
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Tracerfi on August 04, 2016, 04:39:08 PM
I figure I should address a few things which I hope will not cause further drama. I will try hard not to do so, but I will also give you my honest perspective and this will no doubt rub some the wrong way. I sincerely apologize for this in advance.
First, I'm not here to recruit players away. The idea I'm trying to steal players away is laughable. I realize some of you do not frequent other forums or play other games, but DCS, BoS and CLoD really do not have a shortage of players.
Second, I like air combat sims and am passionate about them. I assumed others here shared that passion, but I see the passion here for many is only for Aces High. Fair enough, it is a great game at its heart. If you like steak and want to eat steak all the time I think you should! I like a bit more variety in my diet but that's my call as well. To each there own, live and let live, and all that jazz.
Third, I am here because I decided to try the beta again and found to my surprise I really like where the game is going. The beta is a little bit more than just the re-skin of the engine I assumed it would be and I think I can see where some of the changes will address player concerns.
So why not just sign up now? Why wait for AHIII?
Here is where my honesty will ruffle feathers, but I don't see any reason why I should tiptoe around these points.
AHII is boring. The graphics and the sounds (even with soundpacks) are 10 years old at best. There are no clouds or weather effects and the terrain looks like something lifted from the original Combat Mission. The flight model is good for what it is, but is a pale shadow of even the least accurate sim FMs I regularly play. So not much so far to motivate me to pony up 15 bucks a month.
I know that AH's big selling point isn't graphics or FM but the massive-multiplayer aspects of the game. The only problem is there are not currently enough players to take advantage of this. I remember how big the maps are, and I can guess what a player population of ~150 users will look like. Sorry if this hurts your feelings guys, but if I want to fly around and not encounter anyone to shoot I'll just fire up Hyperlobby and connect to a IL-2 1946 server. I can do that for free and save 15 dollars. I can also get on the ATAG, Wings of Liberty or the 104th Phoenix servers on a good night and be in a big fight in 5-10 minutes tops. And again, I can do this for free, so do the math.
I could go into other things that are turn-offs, but the post above says it better than I can.
Personally, I think the beta will attract many players back. I am excited about AH III. More players will allow the massive-multiplayer aspect to shine. That's what made AH fun, and that is why I would choose to play it over my other games. AH III's tweaking the map sizes and update the graphics engine to something approaching current minimum standards is icing on the cake. So once it's out, I'm back in. Until then, no can do. If you have a problem with it, well, I think you can guess how much I care about that.
Again, if I have offended anyone with my candor I sincerely apologize and wish you all the best. :salute
Thanks Krup. No need to get yourself in trouble over me, but I appreciate the support. :salute
Yes and no. That's from a running map on the server that is available 24x7, not an "event" like AvA. The map and mission changes every 4 hours or earlier if one team completes it's objectives. Essentially it is similar to the MA, but has some AvA elements to it.
Right now there are 65 people on the ATAG main server. The server can handle up to 100. Doesn't seem like much in comparison to AH, but the maps are somewhat smaller and there are other factors that keep it interesting.
For IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad the top populated server is Wings of Liberty in Russia. Very similar setup to the ATAG server, but they have much more impressive statistic information for players if you are into that sort of thing.
Again, it won't replace your Aces High addition, nor am I trying to recruit anyone! But if you like to try different combat sims like I do I think you will find it fun. Sometimes it is nice to eat something other than steak! ;)
Well said sir, I for one play other flight sims as well but I play AH II still even though it is getting quite boring. And the people that think its OK to attack you over talking about other flight sims and what not are the older die hard AHers and sorry to say this are the ones that are not always the best towards new players. Remembering when I first started played certain people were morons towards me and made me want to quit but I stuck with it others may not be so persistent. And when you say that you are trying to recruit new players I do the same thing some look at it and say the graphics look like crap and stay away then other say they will try which is a step. I hope this game continues to succeed because the game is really one of a kind :salute
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: BFOOT1 on August 04, 2016, 04:43:58 PM
I figure I should address a few things which I hope will not cause further drama. I will try hard not to do so, but I will also give you my honest perspective and this will no doubt rub some the wrong way. I sincerely apologize for this in advance.
First, I'm not here to recruit players away. The idea I'm trying to steal players away is laughable. I realize some of you do not frequent other forums or play other games, but DCS, BoS and CLoD really do not have a shortage of players.
Second, I like air combat sims and am passionate about them. I assumed others here shared that passion, but I see the passion here for many is only for Aces High. Fair enough, it is a great game at its heart. If you like steak and want to eat steak all the time I think you should! I like a bit more variety in my diet but that's my call as well. To each there own, live and let live, and all that jazz.
Third, I am here because I decided to try the beta again and found to my surprise I really like where the game is going. The beta is a little bit more than just the re-skin of the engine I assumed it would be and I think I can see where some of the changes will address player concerns.
So why not just sign up now? Why wait for AHIII?
Here is where my honesty will ruffle feathers, but I don't see any reason why I should tiptoe around these points.
AHII is boring. The graphics and the sounds (even with soundpacks) are 10 years old at best. There are no clouds or weather effects and the terrain looks like something lifted from the original Combat Mission. The flight model is good for what it is, but is a pale shadow of even the least accurate sim FMs I regularly play. So not much so far to motivate me to pony up 15 bucks a month.
I know that AH's big selling point isn't graphics or FM but the massive-multiplayer aspects of the game. The only problem is there are not currently enough players to take advantage of this. I remember how big the maps are, and I can guess what a player population of ~150 users will look like. Sorry if this hurts your feelings guys, but if I want to fly around and not encounter anyone to shoot I'll just fire up Hyperlobby and connect to a IL-2 1946 server. I can do that for free and save 15 dollars. I can also get on the ATAG, Wings of Liberty or the 104th Phoenix servers on a good night and be in a big fight in 5-10 minutes tops. And again, I can do this for free, so do the math.
I could go into other things that are turn-offs, but the post above says it better than I can.
Personally, I think the beta will attract many players back. I am excited about AH III. More players will allow the massive-multiplayer aspect to shine. That's what made AH fun, and that is why I would choose to play it over my other games. AH III's tweaking the map sizes and update the graphics engine to something approaching current minimum standards is icing on the cake. So once it's out, I'm back in. Until then, no can do. If you have a problem with it, well, I think you can guess how much I care about that.
Again, if I have offended anyone with my candor I sincerely apologize and wish you all the best. :salute
Thanks Krup. No need to get yourself in trouble over me, but I appreciate the support. :salute
Yes and no. That's from a running map on the server that is available 24x7, not an "event" like AvA. The map and mission changes every 4 hours or earlier if one team completes it's objectives. Essentially it is similar to the MA, but has some AvA elements to it.
Right now there are 65 people on the ATAG main server. The server can handle up to 100. Doesn't seem like much in comparison to AH, but the maps are somewhat smaller and there are other factors that keep it interesting.
For IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad the top populated server is Wings of Liberty in Russia. Very similar setup to the ATAG server, but they have much more impressive statistic information for players if you are into that sort of thing.
Again, it won't replace your Aces High addition, nor am I trying to recruit anyone! But if you like to try different combat sims like I do I think you will find it fun. Sometimes it is nice to eat something other than steak! ;)
If you want something that's not boring, and has clouds, then I recommend trying the scenario this October. It's a one day event, and it's based in North Africa, 1943. Come try it out, and see what ya think :salute
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 04, 2016, 05:25:02 PM
If you want something that's not boring, and has clouds, then I recommend trying the scenario this October. It's a one day event, and it's based in North Africa, 1943. Come try it out, and see what ya think :salute
I guess we could go with the narrative that Invictus is some troll seeking to siphon off our player base... But... He also might just be a guy who is enthusiastic about flight Sims in general and might be a fun addition to our community when AH3 comes out if we don't burn him at the stake before it gets here.
Thanks for the invite and :salute
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 04, 2016, 05:32:25 PM
Sandles and socks are cool, as long as I get to wear a really loud tropical shirt, cheap sun glasses, old man shorts, a fanny pack and one of those floppy straw hats. ;)
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: zack1234 on August 05, 2016, 02:10:40 AM
It's an abomination !
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: BFOOT1 on August 05, 2016, 07:23:15 AM
In all serious if you're interested in trying it out pm me. There are fighter and bomber groups for each side. There are CO's for the groups, written orders, and a detailed attack and defense plan. :salute
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 05, 2016, 09:51:07 AM
PM sent sir. :)
:salute
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: BFOOT1 on August 05, 2016, 10:38:43 AM
For some reason this post made me laugh out loud. :rofl
Maybe because I am old enough to get what it means. :frown:
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Vulcan on August 10, 2016, 05:55:59 PM
IMHO it's a case of grass is greener on the other side: http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/15447-large-plane-formations/
AH2 (and 3) have expansive view distances, allows very high numbers of planes in an area (last FSO was insanity, it looked like footage from the real BoB with the numbers of aircraft formed up), and their network protocol is excellent.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: Invictus84 on August 10, 2016, 06:14:28 PM
IMHO it's a case of grass is greener on the other side: http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/15447-large-plane-formations/
AH2 (and 3) have expansive view distances, allows very high numbers of planes in an area (last FSO was insanity, it looked like footage from the real BoB with the numbers of aircraft formed up), and their network protocol is excellent.
Absolutely. What you describe is AH's strength and the major reason I'm looking forward to the new version. But don't be too quick to discount smaller engagements in other games. They can be quite fun as well.
Title: Re: Looking forward to AH III and other flight sim stuff!
Post by: EskimoJoe on August 11, 2016, 12:20:38 PM
Absolutely. What you describe is AH's strength and the major reason I'm looking forward to the new version. But don't be too quick to discount smaller engagements in other games. They can be quite fun as well.
I remember playing years ago when there were 500+ ( ! ) players on the server, flying, bombing, tanking... It was great fun. I look forward to AH3 maybe restoring that former glory and greater player base. Unfortunately, a lot of the active board community are old folks that just want to argue because the whippershnappers are evil and other games are the devil, and so forth. It ain't nothin' but a thang.