General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: FESS67 on September 08, 2016, 01:59:06 AM
Title: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: FESS67 on September 08, 2016, 01:59:06 AM
I know this will never happen but come on guys - so few players in game and so many bases.
This is not combat, this is sneaking as much as you can and if you get spotted you go try to sneak another place.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Bruv119 on September 08, 2016, 05:06:15 AM
kind of agree with the sentiment of the wish < 20 ww1 only. :D
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: FESS67 on September 08, 2016, 05:14:12 AM
Would be happy with that.
I am currently actively chasing DCS and IL2BOS as options. They may not be the answer but at least they offer campaign modes where I do not have to rely on humans in low occupancy times.
I am leaning to DCS.
I think I have reached the point where I just want to fight - win or lose. I need to find an avenue for that and AH is not cutting it.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Drane on September 08, 2016, 05:50:16 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: mbailey on September 08, 2016, 06:37:16 AM
Why?
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Vraciu on September 08, 2016, 06:56:46 AM
I am never on at a specific time...you seem to have some sort of issue with anything I say... :ahand
No, but the whole "I never have trouble finding a flight" meme is grating to those of us who suffer a vastly different experience.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: JunkyII on September 08, 2016, 09:54:56 AM
Overall problem is there is a mindset of it's ok to avoid combat in order to keep/take fields....example all the people saying it's ok that M3s get upped to defend against incoming aircraft...that crap blows my mind as to how some of you think that's ok or right.
During off hours....Radar should show all dots on the map Side switch should be unlimited if switching to the low number sides Town resupply should be disabled Manned guns disabled until FH or VH are down And ENY should never go above 10.
I won't get on during the morning anymore prior to setting up my controllers...I check to see what the fights look like and often times I'm just sitting in tower looking at ones and twos going after strats and a peak a boo horde vanishing like a fart in the wind from a field....maybe implement a 30 minute period after a base take where if there are no players from the recently captured field on the ground or air from that field it auto retakes back to its original team....it would stop the ninja vanish the horde uses after taking a field a bit.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Vraciu on September 08, 2016, 10:02:16 AM
^^^^^^ Some interesting ideas there.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Vudak on September 08, 2016, 10:34:39 AM
We just need more players. Is everyone in this thread doing what they can to attract, retain, and develop players?
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: guncrasher on September 08, 2016, 10:57:00 AM
I know this will never happen but come on guys - so few players in game and so many bases.
This is not combat, this is sneaking as much as you can and if you get spotted you go try to sneak another place.
you arent even playing ah anymore. so why does it matter if there's 0 or 100 to you.
semp
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 08, 2016, 11:59:20 AM
The size of the map should flucuate with the #s. If you have less than 100 players, bases need to be closed off. There needs to be certain zones to fight in that would create a smaller area, therefore funneling the action so the players know where the fights are.
Also, a airspawn death bowl would be a lot of fun for quick fights and action. And if you are too big of a girl to "jump in and be cannon fodder" you shouldnt be playing games to begin with.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: mbailey on September 08, 2016, 02:09:14 PM
I still don't understand how closing it would help things?
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Vraciu on September 08, 2016, 02:18:56 PM
I still don't understand how closing it would help things?
he's trolling. he doesnt play anymore.
semp
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: bustr on September 08, 2016, 02:50:32 PM
Seems conversations are taking place on ch1 in AHIII now that go along the lines of how much better DCS and BOS are. Trolling maybe by the OP, or trying to pull customers away from Hitech because of personal dissatisfaction with Hitech. There is still a lot of acrimony due to public banning events in the forum and game since 2012. Now it's just a Soros style proxy campaign instead of a Ferguson march.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Sabre on September 08, 2016, 04:05:00 PM
I wonder how much of the low turn-out lately is just a case of "Two-more-weeks" fatigue, waiting for AHIII? My hope is that a lot of players are simply waiting for AHIII to re-engage, so there's something new to see and experience. This is not a criticism of HTC, just stating the fact that AHIII has consumed pretty much all their resources for so long that AHII has been essentially static for what seems like forever. There may also be a fear (wondering about it myself) that, aside from better graphics, AHIII will not be particularly revolutionary or innovative. Like repainting an old playground without adding any new play equipment.
As for closing the MA when numbers are low, I'm against that. Unfortunately, other options discussed may be impossible to implement while the final push to get AHIII out the door is on-going. All I can hope is that, when AHIII finally goes gold, it will provide enough new features to bring back those who've been sitting on the sidelines. :pray
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: FESS67 on September 08, 2016, 05:06:39 PM
Thank you for your responses.
The post was made more out of frustration than a real hope that it would happen. As for you semp, I am still an active subscriber to AH and I fly when I can, the unfortunate reality is there are so few people flying when I do that it is little more than a sightseeing game. I am not trying to troll, nor pull players away from this game, simply putting forward a viewpoint.
There are always those of you who say you can always find a fight and therefore there is an issue with me and how I play the game as I complain that there are few fights. Well, last night I lifted to defend a V base against 2 enemy. When I got over there I saw a P51 and a 190D. They turned and ran to home and landed. That frustrated me.
Hey Puller, perhaps you can explain to me, how I might have found a fight last night. I was Bishop. I attach a screenshot to help you formulate the plan for me. Some conditions to consider:
I want air to air combat
I was side locked for a further 3 hours from the time this screenshot was made
As for you semp, I am still an active subscriber to AH and I fly when I can, the unfortunate reality is there are so few people flying when I do that it is little more than a sightseeing game. I am not trying to troll, nor pull players away from this game, simply putting forward a viewpoint.
Don't mind him. He is 100% contrarian. Just ignore him. It works for me. :salute
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: FESS67 on September 09, 2016, 05:14:58 PM
No advice as yet from Puller. He must be taking his time to ensure he gives a complete answer.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Zoney on September 09, 2016, 05:31:25 PM
I am at a complete loss how closing an arena because of low numbers will help anyone with anything. If you do not want to play because of the low numbers, and you say you are not playing because of the low numbers fine. But please tell me how closing the arena has anything to do with making anything better.
There really are way too many Trolls on this board in my opinion.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Zoney on September 09, 2016, 06:04:12 PM
I still fly in AHII MA and will be for awhile as my current system will not run AHIII. I understand these are limitations of my own. I understand folks are migrating to AHII and there will be fewer and fewer players for me to fight.
How will just closing down this arena help anything?
I take responsibility to play with the conditions I have to work with. I mean I could whine and cry and try to make people play my way but I don't see that EVER working out, so I'll just smile and find some fun when I can. I dunno, maybe its me.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: FESS67 on September 09, 2016, 10:22:25 PM
I guess my hope would be that if the only arena available when numbers are low is the DA or a similar 'furball' small arena then it would compress the action and force fights.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Peanut1 on September 09, 2016, 11:19:58 PM
See Rules #4, #6
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Vraciu on September 09, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
I logged on for a quick look and yes I found a fight. However, the acid test is going to be now. It is 7:40pm on a Saturday night for me. will I find a fight now?
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: FESS67 on September 10, 2016, 07:29:47 AM
Well I just spent a couple of hours in AHIII
Player numbers ranged from around 50 to 23 when I logged off. I found fights thanks to a few very willing opponents.
AKAK, JimmyC and Techwrek. Thanks guys that was a lot of fun. We all kept going at it win or lose.
Techwrek - sir they were some of the best fights I have had in a long time. You and me need to do that more often. Too much fun. ~S~
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: mbailey on September 10, 2016, 08:19:46 AM
Tech is a great guy :aok
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: The Fugitive on September 10, 2016, 08:27:46 AM
I guess my hope would be that if the only arena available when numbers are low is the DA or a similar 'furball' small arena then it would compress the action and force fights.
You cant FORCE players to play a certain way. Many don't play this game to fight....unfortunately. And it may seem worst in the days to come. I think....and hope, more players will be coming over from WOT and will do nothing but tank.
However, what can be done to bring more fighting into the game is to adjust the rules for a "WIN". To capture a base, not only do you need to white flag the town, kill all ack guns, and get 10 troops into the maproom, add in thing that will move more player to defend, like ack guns come up faster if 5 defenders are in the air for 5 minutes.
Bombers only get full points/perks/damage if they RTB.... or atleast try to make it.
Defenders are far too few as to most people they have the most to lose. Be it points, perks, K/D, just plan dying, or what ever is their goal. Defenders get hammered. They are less organized as tend to get slaughtered more easily. Some thing needs to be done to make it more worth while to defend bases.
With more defenders you'll have more fights.
For the attackers, there needs to be a "carrot" to entice them to fight for their captures instead of "disappearing" when the going gets tough.
The point is you can't take away and arena, but you can make it so most players flock to a single one. You cant take away NOEs or "wack a mole" type grab and dash captures but you can make it more beneficial to fight for them. They still have to option to do the lame "avoid a fight" stuff, but they may instead choose to join a fight instead for the "extras" provided by the new rules.
Title: Re: Close the MA when player numbers drop below 20
Post by: Vraciu on September 10, 2016, 09:20:14 AM
You cant FORCE players to play a certain way. Many don't play this game to fight....unfortunately. And it may seem worst in the days to come. I think....and hope, more players will be coming over from WOT and will do nothing but tank.
However, what can be done to bring more fighting into the game is to adjust the rules for a "WIN". To capture a base, not only do you need to white flag the town, kill all ack guns, and get 10 troops into the maproom, add in thing that will move more player to defend, like ack guns come up faster if 5 defenders are in the air for 5 minutes.
Bombers only get full points/perks/damage if they RTB.... or atleast try to make it.
Defenders are far too few as to most people they have the most to lose. Be it points, perks, K/D, just plan dying, or what ever is their goal. Defenders get hammered. They are less organized as tend to get slaughtered more easily. Some thing needs to be done to make it more worth while to defend bases.
With more defenders you'll have more fights.
For the attackers, there needs to be a "carrot" to entice them to fight for their captures instead of "disappearing" when the going gets tough.
The point is you can't take away and arena, but you can make it so most players flock to a single one. You cant take away NOEs or "wack a mole" type grab and dash captures but you can make it more beneficial to fight for them. They still have to option to do the lame "avoid a fight" stuff, but they may instead choose to join a fight instead for the "extras" provided by the new rules.
completely disagree.
When you have 30 players and 300 bases that's a problem. As Violator has repeatedly pointed out, and Fess mentioned above, you CAN funnel the action. That will force fights. That in turn brings in more action which encourages more people to log in and stay, etc. etc..