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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: SIK1 on September 22, 2016, 05:51:12 PM
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I'm looking to build a new computer so that I can play AH in VR. I would like to hear from all those that use VR in AH what their computers specs are, and how well does it handle AH.
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Sik
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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/22/2016, 19:17:31
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 970
Here are the Requirements for Oculus:
Video Card NVIDIA GTX 970 / AMD R9 290 equivalent or greater.
CPU Intel i5-4590 equivalent or greater.
Memory 8GB+ RAM.
Video Output Compatible HDMI 1.3 video output. <----your graphics card must have HDMI output.
USB Ports 3x USB 3.0 ports plus 1x USB 2.0 port. <---you might need a card if you don't have 3.0
OS Windows 7 SP1 64 bit or newer.
Here is a way to check your CPU specs:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=837&cmp%5B%5D=2234&cmp%5B%5D=5
and remember it takes USB 3 ports but you can buy a card for that if you need to.
If you are building get a MB with USB 3.
and mine says 2CPU's it just means it's a dual core, where now I think quad core is the low end. My machine is very old.
And it handles AH well. maxed Settings using the monitor to fly and then there is some drop in heavy fire to about 30FPS in Oculus but normally is also 60fps.
Also if your video card has one HDMI and your monitor takes HDMI you will want to use your display port to hdmi adapter for your monitor and then use the HDMI port straight for your oculus.
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I use a GTX960 and I3-6100 just fine.
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Thanks for the responses Kanth, and Vulcan.
Kanth,
the age of your system surprises me. Mine is just a little older. (E8400 @ 3.0 GHz)
Vulcan,
I blame you for my fascination with VR. You wrote a description of what it was like using VR in AH several years ago, and I have been interested since. How much memory do you have on your machine. I know Oculus recommends 8Gb. Do you know if there is a marked improvement running more memory.
Right now I'm exploring options and trying to build a new machine cheaply enough so that buying the Oculus doesn't drive me into the poor house.
:salute
Sik
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what is the best VR headset to get to play AHIII?
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Sik1 I would get at least an i5 6600K. That's my next upgrade even though my i7 2600K is working well with the GTX 1070.
VR works with the minimum specs but you'll be running minimum settings for good frame rate.
SirNuke those who have tried both the Vive and Rift say the Rift is better. I like my Rift.
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Any decent i5 or i7 with 16gb ram and at a minimum 970 GPU will run VR alright. Look at Vulcan's system, I know several in DCS that have that same sort of arrangement and they don't complain much about VR performance. If you want max fps most of the time, you will need a faster GPU than a 960, but it still WILL work alright from what I've seen.
I've played AH3 (and other VR sims) with a 6700, 6800, and 6850 CPU along with either a 1070, 1080 (sli, but SLI isn't working well with VR..yet), and a new Titan. No issues in terms of performance, but you do have to manage your expectations in terms of resolution/etc with VR right now IMO. I have Rifts and Vives, and am still waiting for the Razer OSVR unit, but so far both the current VR types seem to perform about the same with similar systems.
IMO I would get at least a 1070 and a decent CPU/MB/Ram platform, if you want to have the best VR experience, again though, you CAN still get a reasonable experience with a 970 and a decent CPU/MB/Ram system, or even slightly lower performing GPU/CPUs. Again, manage your expectations is all in terms of FPS in VR is all.
SirNuke - Rift for cockpit/sim games, all the way. I've had both for a while now, and in every sim/driving game out there the Rift is superior to the Vive. There is a great military FPS/Arma3 like VR game called Onward that only works on the Vive, and that so far is the only game I've found where the Vive is superior, and that's mainly because it's the only option. If you like walk around/room scale non-sim like games, the Vive is a great unit, but again, in sims, the Rift is a lot further along in most games, including AH3, DCS, WT, Elite Dangerous and so on.
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Me too.
Kanth,
the age of your system surprises me.
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I have 16Gb of RAM, I chose the i3 because because there isn't a huge difference between the beasties for just gaming.
(http://cdn.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Intel-core-i3-i5-i7-table-comparison.png)
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/intel-core-i3-vs-i5-vs-i7-one-really-need/
If you're not using the built-in graphics (which you should NOT be for AH3), if you're game is not using more than 2 cores (which is unlikely) then you are better off throwing your money into a better video card/RAM/SSD. The i3-6100 runs at 3.7Ghz which is up where the burst speeds of some of the i5 and i7s sit (and you can even get a 3.9Ghz i3).
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I have 16Gb of RAM, I chose the i3 because because there isn't a huge difference between the beasties for just gaming.
(http://cdn.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Intel-core-i3-i5-i7-table-comparison.png)
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/intel-core-i3-vs-i5-vs-i7-one-really-need/
If you're not using the built-in graphics (which you should NOT be for AH3), if you're game is not using more than 2 cores (which is unlikely) then you are better off throwing your money into a better video card/RAM/SSD. The i3-6100 runs at 3.7Ghz which is up where the burst speeds of some of the i5 and i7s sit (and you can even get a 3.9Ghz i3).
Thanks Vulcan,
This is good info. Stepping down to an i3, enables me to step up to a 1070 for about the same overall cost and I still maintain the ability to upgrade to an i5, or i7 in the future.
:salute
Sik
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I'm a new VR user. I built a new pc to support the Rift DK2 I have. Oculus requires an i5, 8 GB, gtx970, and USB3 or else the software won't download and install. So that's what I built. It changes the whole perspective of the game. I'm still having trouble with seat alignment in the airplane. The gun sights don't line up. I can't figure out the setting for adjustment.
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for me I had to map a key on my joystick to to View/ Tracker Center because it was always a little off when I got into the plane.
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I'm a new VR user. I built a new pc to support the Rift DK2 I have. Oculus requires an i5, 8 GB, gtx970, and USB3 or else the software won't download and install. So that's what I built. It changes the whole perspective of the game. I'm still having trouble with seat alignment in the airplane. The gun sights don't line up. I can't figure out the setting for adjustment.
The gunsights will not align when you focus on them. You need to focus in the distance to align them. Stay focused on the bandit when you line up the sight.
After you start AH use the Oculus lens spacing app to make sure the headset is positioned for the best picture. While you're there you can recenter the sensor.
As Kanth suggested map Tracker Center to a button in the View menu in Controller Mapping in Aces High.
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I'm a new VR user. I built a new pc to support the Rift DK2 I have. Oculus requires an i5, 8 GB, gtx970, and USB3 or else the software won't download and install. So that's what I built. It changes the whole perspective of the game. I'm still having trouble with seat alignment in the airplane. The gun sights don't line up. I can't figure out the setting for adjustment.
It installed fine for my DK2 on an i3 with a GTX960.
Gunsights not lining up is probably your eyes, you most likely have a dominant eye.
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for me I had to map a key on my joystick to to View/ Tracker Center because it was always a little off when I got into the plane.
Ditto. As Vulcan said, eye dominance can play a part too. Cntrl+f4 can be used to re center as well if you don't have a lot of buttons you can map commands to.
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I use a GTX960 and I3-6100 just fine.
I would like to point out I was on the money :devil
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/10/oculus-lowers-minimum-rift-specs-using-asynchronous-spacewarp-tech/
Today, Oculus says the Rift will run acceptably on any machine with an Nvidia 960 or greater and an intel i3-6100 (or AMD FX4350) or greater.
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I may try to go the same route as Kanth. Since I have a similar cpu; (E8400@3.0 GHz) and I can overclock it, if that would be of any benefit.
I just scored 8 GB of DDR2 ram, now if I put a usb 3.0 card in, and upgrade my video card to one I would put in a new system if I build one anyways, I might be able to get into the VR world for right around a grand using a 1070 and rift. If I go with a card like the gtx960, and a Razer HDK2 I could do it for under $600, and that is very tempting.
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Sik