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Title: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Shuffler on September 26, 2016, 12:25:42 PM
How about a 26 year old female Captain and her 19 year old male Copilot.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/26/business/woman-26-easyjet-youngest-pilot-captain/index.html
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: USCH on September 26, 2016, 12:41:03 PM
Yes I would like to meet the captain.... Also if she is available for a post flight check with me that would be great.

Seriously, ya I wouldn't mind. Sometimes pilots (although most likely vary expereanced and adequate) look like they are 65 years in.. I don't need someone's diabetes, or other health issue from being old, be a problem in fglight, as unlikely as that is.
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on September 27, 2016, 12:56:24 AM
Age doesnt mean a thing. I know of 25,000H airline captains that get lost single pilot when you turn the GPS off while throwing in a couple of alarms.
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: MiloMorai on September 27, 2016, 01:47:06 AM
Still when it hits the fan I would want someone with more experience.
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Dawger on September 27, 2016, 08:52:24 AM
As a fairly ancient pelican myself, I will say its time for robots in the cockpit.

The weakest link is easily the flight crew now.

Pilots are far more likely to kill you than save you, age notwithstanding.
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Mister Fork on September 27, 2016, 11:56:33 AM
As a fairly ancient pelican myself, I will say its time for robots in the cockpit.

The weakest link is easily the flight crew now.

Pilots are far more likely to kill you than save you, age notwithstanding.
+1

...and I'd rather a former military pilot as my captain than a school-only jockey...
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Volron on September 27, 2016, 01:28:43 PM
You do realize that a "former military pilot" and "someone with more experience" required time in the seat in order to gain said experience, right? :headscratch:
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Serenity on September 27, 2016, 03:07:10 PM
You do realize that a "former military pilot" and "someone with more experience" required time in the seat in order to gain said experience, right? :headscratch:

And boy, do we $&@! $%#€ up along the way...
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Volron on September 27, 2016, 06:46:25 PM
And boy, do we $&@! $%#€ up along the way...

Been plenty of times where the "experienced" $&@! $%#€ as well. :)
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Traveler on September 28, 2016, 11:57:16 AM
As a fairly ancient pelican myself, I will say its time for robots in the cockpit.

The weakest link is easily the flight crew now.

Pilots are far more likely to kill you than save you, age notwithstanding.

The weakest link is the human, fail the auto pilot and force them to had fly an approach on a check ride and 72% failed their check ride.  Most can't even hold or level off at an assigned alt.  Basic stuff, right.  The break down is very bad where younger flight crews seldom trun off the auto throattle.  These are not pilots. 
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Wiley on September 28, 2016, 12:00:10 PM
The weakest link is the human, fail the auto pilot and force them to had fly an approach on a check ride and 72% failed their check ride.  Most can't even hold or level off at an assigned alt.  Basic stuff, right.  The break down is very bad where younger flight crews seldom trun off the auto throattle.  These are not pilots.

Please tell me that's a number you pulled from your backside, and is not an actual statistic.  I am going to have to fly soon.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: pembquist on September 28, 2016, 01:21:31 PM
Even with weak links and all, whenever I stop to think about it I am amazed at how safe commercial aviation is, what with all the parts and speeds and thin air.
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Traveler on September 28, 2016, 01:27:56 PM
Please tell me that's a number you pulled from your backside, and is not an actual statistic.  I am going to have to fly soon.

Wiley.

Not industry wide, but from one major international carrier with a concern over CFIT, following the KSFO crash.  Testing their new hires, when everything auto failed, basic stick and rudder flying, most failed because they couldn't hold an assigned alt or airspeed within the required 100 and 10,  and two ended up so far behind the aircraft they got lost in VFR conditions.
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Serenity on September 29, 2016, 03:08:51 PM
Not industry wide, but from one major international carrier with a concern over CFIT, following the KSFO crash.  Testing their new hires, when everything auto failed, basic stick and rudder flying, most failed because they couldn't hold an assigned alt or airspeed within the required 100 and 10,  and two ended up so far behind the aircraft they got lost in VFR conditions.

100' is a bit tight, I'm not gonna lie. On a good day, I can definitely keep that. Tired, on the second leg of a flight, I can wander as far as 200'... But then again, we don't even have auto systems on these jets, so there's no relief to fatigue other than trim.
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Wiley on September 29, 2016, 03:12:16 PM
Not industry wide, but from one major international carrier with a concern over CFIT, following the KSFO crash.  Testing their new hires, when everything auto failed, basic stick and rudder flying, most failed because they couldn't hold an assigned alt or airspeed within the required 100 and 10,  and two ended up so far behind the aircraft they got lost in VFR conditions.

Meh.  Being within 100' and 10mph is fine for a landing, right?  Right guys? :confused:

Right then... Xanax before takeoff.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Young Airline Captain and Copilot
Post by: Golfer on September 29, 2016, 03:57:53 PM
Meh.  Being within 100' and 10mph is fine for a landing, right?  Right guys? :confused:

Right then... Xanax before takeoff.

Wiley.

You're not likely to find such a skewed result on a US carrier.  Numerous other factors went into making that accident and environment what it was and aren't so much relevant for what you're likely to experience.

Oddly enough age didn't have a thing to do with that accident.