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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Joker312 on September 29, 2016, 09:13:22 PM
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WTF!!!! I have paid my dues for decades. I post about a POS (Starfox) and get that type reaction? Why?
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Because you brought it to the boards. If you have an issue with another player, email/call HTC directly. Simple enough.
Oh, and IN :devil
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OK I will call them. TY, I had no idea there was a judicial system here.
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Me thinks this thread is not long for the world.
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you want to get back at skyfox, kill him. it always makes me smile when I do that. if this crappy player can do it, I am pretty sure you can.
semp
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(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc473/UnkShadow/coasting-through_zpsd6c9c8af.gif)
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OK I will call them. TY, I had no idea there was a judicial system here.
The hammer that bans
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WTF!!!! I have paid my dues for decades. I post about a POS (Starfox) and get that type reaction? Why?
Bad Joker....Bad Joker..... :rofl
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:t
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skyrr/starfox is the reason I'll be cancelling my sub. whomever it is, he/she is an infection on this game and community. period.
It's sad to see so much hard work and the great strides in AH3 to be ruined by a single player. And he IS ruining the game experience.
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I want to see films of this guy.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,229014.0.html
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skyrr/starfox is the reason I'll be cancelling my sub. whomever it is, he/she is an infection on this game and community. period.
It's sad to see so much hard work and the great strides in AH3 to be ruined by a single player. And he IS ruining the game experience.
I don't get this. If you love the game, there's gotta be better ways to handle your discontent than quitting. AH needs more people playing, not fewer.
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time passes but people are still as salty as before about getting shot :airplane:
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skyrr/starfox is the reason I'll be cancelling my sub. whomever it is, he/she is an infection on this game and community. period.
It's sad to see so much hard work and the great strides in AH3 to be ruined by a single player. And he IS ruining the game experience.
How?
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Based on who he says he is, he's been around off and on since maybe 2003 or 2006.
Most times just a big <S> and moving on is the best way to have fun.
Hang in there we like having you in the game.
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I scalped him really good last time. I ever received PMs. It was good.
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I don't get this. If you love the game, there's gotta be better ways to handle your discontent than quitting. AH needs more people playing, not fewer.
When I have all of 2 hours to play the game, and that 2 hours is ruined by someone circumventing the spirit of the game to "troll" individual people, yeah the game isn't fun. Not worth my time and money to battle with someone who's sole purpose in the environment is based on ruining someone else's enjoyment of the game.
I understand the difference between whining that i got killed in a game, and having my experience as a whole ruined by the actions of single player who's enjoyment is based purely on greifing other players. BIG difference between players who are just darn good pilots and someone who's life force is rejuvenated from the frustrations of others.
He can support the game by himself for all i care. He can have 30 accounts and be perfect all by himself, him and cybro can have a jeep race around the bomber hanger. Not fun for those around him/her.
I'd switch countries, but once again this means that players AROUND the griefer must change to experience the intended joy of the game.
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When I have all of 2 hours to play the game, and that 2 hours is ruined by someone circumventing the spirit of the game to "troll" individual people, yeah the game isn't fun. Not worth my time and money to battle with someone who's sole purpose in the environment is based on ruining someone else's enjoyment of the game.
I understand the difference between whining that i got killed in a game, and having my experience as a whole ruined by the actions of single player who's enjoyment is based purely on greifing other players. BIG difference between players who are just darn good pilots and someone who's life force is rejuvenated from the frustrations of others.
He can support the game by himself for all i care. He can have 30 accounts and be perfect all by himself, him and cybro can have a jeep race around the bomber hanger. Not fun for those around him/her.
I'd switch countries, but once again this means that players AROUND the griefer must change to experience the intended joy of the game.
This person is not a griever. You make him/her a griever by letting anyone in a GAME under your skin. Yes you still have to change.... but the only change is not to have such thin skin. Some folks will feed off you if you let them. If you act as if it does not bother you, they will find someone else who does get bothered.
Oh and <S> it's a game.
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Oh and <S> it's a game.
indeed. I do enjoy when it exists as it was intended, and not abused. So you're right it is a game, but rules also make the game fair and enjoyable for all. :cheers:
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If its true that he is a griefer and gets off causing frustrations in other players, then aren't you giving him huge sense of validation by quitting, just because of him?
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skyrr/starfox is the reason I'll be cancelling my sub. whomever it is, he/she is an infection on this game and community. period.
It's sad to see so much hard work and the great strides in AH3 to be ruined by a single player. And he IS ruining the game experience.
You could choose to ignore his antics. I do. He's hunted me several times when I kill him or if he dies trying to kill me. Seems he does not like dying at all and requires you die as payback. Rather childish, but why let that ruin the game for you? Do you want to look back and remember you left the game because an overgrown child drove you away?
Whoever he is, it is easy to see he craves attention. Want to get him to go away? It is simple.
Ignore him.
Don't threaten to quit the game.
Don't PM him.
If he PMs you, don't respond.
Don't salute him.
If he kills you, runs from you or to ack, don't go off about it on comms or text.
If you kill him, don't crow about it.
STOP posting about him on the forum.
If he makes the #1 ranking, congratulate the guy who made #2.
If others start going off about him publicly, take them aside nicely and tell them the same thing I'm telling you here.
He's a gnat. A nothing. He isn't a legend. He isn't even a folktale. He doesn't exist. He never did.
If you and others do this, you kill his only reason for being here. For guys like him, it eats them up inside.
Just ignore him. It works.
:salute
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You could choose to ignore his antics. I do. He's hunted me several times when I kill him or if he dies trying to kill me. Seems he does not like dying at all and requires you die as payback. Rather childish, but why let that ruin the game for you? Do you want to look back and remember you left the game because an overgrown child drove you away?
Whoever he is, it is easy to see he craves attention. Want to get him to go away? It is simple.
Ignore him.
Don't threaten to quit the game.
Don't PM him.
If he PMs you, don't respond.
Don't salute him.
If he kills you, runs from you or to ack, don't go off about it on comms or text.
If you kill him, don't crow about it.
STOP posting about him on the forum.
If he makes the #1 ranking, congratulate the guy who made #2.
If others start going off about him publicly, take them aside nicely and tell them the same thing I'm telling you here.
He's a gnat. A nothing. He isn't a legend. He isn't even a folktale. He doesn't exist. He never did.
If you and others do this, you kill his only reason for being here. For guys like him, it eats them up inside.
Just ignore him. It works.
:salute
Wow, rational thinking. That has been my thinking concerning player "X"
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Wow, rational thinking. That has been my thinking concerning player "X"
:salute
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You could choose to ignore his antics. I do. He's hunted me several times when I kill him or if he dies trying to kill me. Seems he does not like dying at all and requires you die as payback. Rather childish, but why let that ruin the game for you? Do you want to look back and remember you left the game because an overgrown child drove you away?
Whoever he is, it is easy to see he craves attention. Want to get him to go away? It is simple.
Ignore him.
Don't threaten to quit the game.
Don't PM him.
If he PMs you, don't respond.
Don't salute him.
If he kills you, runs from you or to ack, don't go off about it on comms or text.
If you kill him, don't crow about it.
STOP posting about him on the forum.
If he makes the #1 ranking, congratulate the guy who made #2.
If others start going off about him publicly, take them aside nicely and tell them the same thing I'm telling you here.
He's a gnat. A nothing. He isn't a legend. He isn't even a folktale. He doesn't exist. He never did.
If you and others do this, you kill his only reason for being here. For guys like him, it eats them up inside.
Just ignore him. It works.
:salute
Good advise.
Take away what keeps them coming back and they will soon leave.
:salute
Sik
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It's absurd to think that starfox is not skyrr.
Anyone can stop running their mouth at any moment. I mean look at me! I was a very very mouthy one for a bit, but for the most part now? I don't even talk, that is unless it's sawzaw. He's too fun to pick on.
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what is funny is how grown men think that a single player can spoil their fun in this game. does that single player has that much power on you? if you think he does, then you have bigger problems in life. so ho ahead and quit, see a therapist. really get help.
semp
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what is funny is how grown men think that a single player can spoil their fun in this game. does that single player has that much power on you? if you think he does, then you have bigger problems in life. so ho ahead and quit, see a therapist. really get help.
semp
Ive seen one person upset about it.. the rest of us are pointing out facts.
Thanks for your insight of my mental state however.
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Well I am pretty sure that Starfox IS NOT skyr. I have heard Skyr on voice and was obviously not using a Modulator. Sure, he flies the same plane sets, more than a few also fly those same fighters. He has Always shown class, with me anyway! Several times he has killed me! Asked him where I screwed up (other than taking off), and he was pretty quick on the information. Then again, Skyr was almost as good at answering that situation, . Face it guys, we all have our favorite players to slaughter. In my opinion, why is ch 200 set for on default, as I have heard a few newer players that get kills on old timer and then get practically abused about it. They had 200 selected and had to witness the rants. One towards him but he could see how prevalent that sort of "rant" is. Yup, he called BS and didn't get the full 2 weeks even. Can we not use PM's to jig folk? Just saying, most rant about n
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what is funny is how grown men think that a single player can spoil their fun in this game.
In practice a player can systematically ruin the gameplay of another. The ones that need to do that need the help imho.
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In practice a player can systematically ruin the gameplay of another. The ones that need to do that need the help imho.
as far as i know the only one that has spoiled the fun and it had happened several times is skuzzy and that was by accident when he tripped on the power cord.
semp
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as far as i know the only one that has spoiled the fun and it had happened several times is skuzzy and that was by accident when he tripped on the power cord.
Well if you've never experienced it...
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Well if you've never experienced it...
I've experienced it. So what? Isn't the idea to fight other planes?
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I've experienced it. So what? Isn't the idea to fight other planes?
Fight yes. Someone playing with their own private AWACS, singling a specific player out and just picking constantly isn't sporting nor fighting imho.
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Fight yes. Someone playing with their own private AWACS, singling a specific player out and just picking constantly isn't sporting nor fighting imho.
Very good way to put it
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Nevermind. It isn't worth going any further about.
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You could choose to ignore his antics. I do. He's hunted me several times when I kill him or if he dies trying to kill me. Seems he does not like dying at all and requires you die as payback. Rather childish, but why let that ruin the game for you? Do you want to look back and remember you left the game because an overgrown child drove you away?
Whoever he is, it is easy to see he craves attention. Want to get him to go away? It is simple.
Ignore him.
Don't threaten to quit the game.
Don't PM him.
If he PMs you, don't respond.
Don't salute him.
If he kills you, runs from you or to ack, don't go off about it on comms or text.
If you kill him, don't crow about it.
STOP posting about him on the forum.
If he makes the #1 ranking, congratulate the guy who made #2.
If others start going off about him publicly, take them aside nicely and tell them the same thing I'm telling you here.
He's a gnat. A nothing. He isn't a legend. He isn't even a folktale. He doesn't exist. He never did.
If you and others do this, you kill his only reason for being here. For guys like him, it eats them up inside.
Just ignore him. It works.
:salute
:rock
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Nevermind. It isn't worth going any further about.
go ahead
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When I have all of 2 hours to play the game, and that 2 hours is ruined by someone circumventing the spirit of the game to "troll" individual people, yeah the game isn't fun. Not worth my time and money to battle with someone who's sole purpose in the environment is based on ruining someone else's enjoyment of the game.
I understand the difference between whining that i got killed in a game, and having my experience as a whole ruined by the actions of single player who's enjoyment is based purely on greifing other players. BIG difference between players who are just darn good pilots and someone who's life force is rejuvenated from the frustrations of others.
He can support the game by himself for all i care. He can have 30 accounts and be perfect all by himself, him and cybro can have a jeep race around the bomber hanger. Not fun for those around him/her.
I'd switch countries, but once again this means that players AROUND the griefer must change to experience the intended joy of the game.
well either change to his country or just fight the country he's not on--there's no reason to quit
or try gving
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the puppet strings are hanging
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Nevermind. It isn't worth going any further about.
You can speak your mind, always interested to hear of similar experiences.
Choosing not to get emotionally bent out of shape about it is one thing. Being practically unable to play your game because of another's 'pestering' is another. Was merely my point (to Semp mostly I think).
I'm a stall fighter by nature and I love close-in manoeuvring. Once I get started I'm often I'm doing way less than 150 m.p.h. usually near the deck, sometimes less that 50. It's almost trivial for another, faster aircraft to kill me when I'm engaged with someone else. Or several someone elses, as it often ends up. You could argue that's unrealistic or unwise but I find it fun. I think Aces High is just a game. I'm pretty sure I can prove that.
Apparently some people's fun comes from systematically spoiling the fun of others. Usually out of spite or insecurity I've found. I think that's unreasonable and should not be allowed.
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Well if you've never experienced it...
I have only been here since close to the beginning and have never experienced any...... Well except for Skuzzy tripping. :aok
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Hopefully the screenshot I sent in is enough to be the icing on the cake to provide proof he's purposely griefing...pretty much admitted to it on 200 this morning....plenty of people were online and witnessed it.
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I have only been here since close to the beginning and have never experienced any...... Well except for Skuzzy tripping. :aok
Doesn't go by the hours you've been here buddy. You just have to set em off. Usually you don't even know what you've done.
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Doesn't go by the hours you've been here buddy. You just have to set em off. Usually you don't even know what you've done.
I killed plenty. The problem is that you don't set them off, they set you off. Think about that a bit.
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I killed plenty. The problem is that you don't set them off, they set you off. Think about that a bit.
I have thought about it for a bit, but it doesn't seem to make any sense to me.
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I have thought about it for a bit, but it doesn't seem to make any sense to me.
Simply explained is he feeds off your squealing. The more you squeal the more he hunts for you.
If you shrug it off then he will move on to someone who will squeal.
A second choice is get your own AWACS and hunt him/her.
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A second choice is get your own AWACS and hunt him/her.
That would result in a violation of the game's TOS and result in a ban, as a recent player found out.
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A second choice is get your own AWACS and hunt him/her.
Everything goes downhill from there.
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Simply explained is he feeds off your squealing. The more you squeal the more he hunts for you.
I'm sure that wasn't intended as quite so condescending as it came across. We're talking about sadistic sociopaths who are trying to make their problems other people's problems. AH is a perfect avenue for that. A lack of 'squealing' is apparently equally as motivating I found.
A second choice is get your own AWACS and hunt him/her.
If one objects to an unreasonable pattern of behaviour your suggestion is to adopt the same approach? No I don't think so.
I believe there's a hierarchy of ACM. You can't hunt a faster plane being flown with that awareness. The development of fighter aircraft and tactics since WWI has made that an axiom. That's ironically the hollowness of most griefer's MO. They assert (either to themselves, or via PM or YouTube videos) that it's their personal qualities or skill that's the reason they win. Almost without fault it is infact just the application of tactically superior ACM in accordance with the aircraft they are using. Sure that takes skill too, but a narrower set imho. I think you can't grief from a slower, more manoeuvrable plane. That's basically just out-flying, partially because you can't control or force the fight.
As if that weren't enough, they also secure the additional advantage of knowing where you are. What you're flying, what altitude you're at. When you are engaged, smack talk the bejabers out of you to try and put you off your A game. All of that unavailable to those who are 'playing fair' and still, having said all that, a 'kill' still satisfies their ego :rofl
So far, two of the three psychos I've run into in AH neither can stall fight or do the more advanced ACM requiring good spatial awareness of both you and your opponent at the same time. One of them I'm quite sure is motivated to grief because of his deficiencies. Loves ACM, can't match what some of the top sticks can do, finds a work-around.
Rather pathetic and sad when you get down to the elementals of it.
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That would result in a violation of the game's TOS and result in a ban, as a recent player found out.
Interesting! So in all these years when looking for some individual for a good fight, I have been violating TOS.
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I'm sure that wasn't intended as quite so condescending as it came across.
No, nothing like that was meant at all.
Like I said. That is another choice you can make. There are others as have been posted.
Don't forget..... The object of the game is to fight.
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Everything goes downhill from there.
Hmmm so you fight in the game and it goes down hill? I think the other person might give up their method of hunting and go elsewhere.
Putting the shoe on the other foot, so to speak. LOL
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I believe there's a hierarchy of ACM.
So far, two of the three psychos I've run into in AH neither can stall fight or do the more advanced ACM requiring good spatial awareness of both you and your opponent at the same time.
...Loves ACM, can't match what some of the top sticks can do, finds a work-around.
Can you clarify this please?
Someone may very well be able to ride an edge better than someone else, but I don't think the other's ability to read energy states and react appropriately is really a "work around."
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Interesting! So in all these years when looking for some individual for a good fight, I have been violating TOS.
The suggestion you made "A second choice is get your own AWACS and hunt him/her." would be, especially if done to purposely grief another player.
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That would result in a violation of the game's TOS and result in a ban, as a recent player found out.
However said player is still flying AcesHigh, and still doing the same thing to multiple players of the game.
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I have an idea: Just accept that this is a game and dont get too emotionally involved in your cartoon pilots Life and Health. You take this game way too serious.
The level of paranoia some people are expressing... :noid
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I have an idea: Do not be tolerant of someone who's only goal in the game is to make you miserable.
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Why doesn't AH3 use a 'Anit-Cheat' program like Punkbuster? It will kick a hacker out until they download a clean version, that way no one is thrown out and eliminate/reduce questionable activity.
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I have an idea: Just accept that this is a game and dont get too emotionally involved in your cartoon pilots Life and Health. You take this game way too serious.
I really fail to understand the continual projection of emotional reaction. Where does that automatic corelation originate? Is that a standard assumption with any kind of complaint, legitimate or not? I have never beaten my dog, wept myself to sleep, threw my joystick against the wall (someone once told me they did that), or had to put £5 into the swearbox over AH. Some of us are simply stating that deliberate griefing of your game play is annoying, morally indefensible and apparently against AH's TOS. Again, if you haven't experienced this then do not make assumptions about how people react or pass it off lightly. You would also find that your available game time is spoiled. Over and over again. The complaint is as simple as that really.
Don't forget..... The object of the game is to fight.
Yes fight. Now when someone prevents you from doing that during your paid gametime...
Like I said. That is another choice you can make. There are others as have been posted.
Eventually you'll learn the only two choices are to avoid as much as possible, which comes down to small gaps of time when a person has multiple accounts or to log off (also evidently rewarding to some).
Why doesn't AH3 use a 'Anit-Cheat' program like Punkbuster? It will kick a hacker out until they download a clean version, that way no one is thrown out and eliminate/reduce questionable activity.
There's no hacking bud, it's possible to do this with an untampered version of the game. Usually at least two copies actually.
Can you clarify this please?
Someone may very well be able to ride an edge better than someone else, but I don't think the other's ability to read energy states and react appropriately is really a "work around."
Let's make an essential distinction between ACM and griefing. I have (once again) no objection to the BnZ style of energy fighting. I'm suggesting that if you want to do way more killing that getting killed, and want to grief other people then this is the approach for you. It took me about three years to learn to stall fight the way I do and about one month to learn to BnZ (admitted I already knew a lot more about simulated flight by then). BnZ has manifold tactical advantages over turn / stall fighting, especially in aircraft that are also competent energy builders (like the LA7 or admittedly 190D-9). You can more safely extract in the vert. Your SA is enhanced. Your gunnery is enhanced. You are less pressured to make decisions with fuzzy data. It is a simpler flowchart-like system. You are able to maintain orientation. Your T.E.D. is minimal. You have the option to break off your attack or escape the fight at any time (with planning). You can dictate the fight to the opponent instead of the other way around. You can prevent your opponent from leaving and should be able to kill him from relative safety once you've established an advantage or the moment a third party engages him. Now couple that with dubious motivation and additional tactical information not available to TOS-abiding players and you have a player / plane / tactic combination that can truly be a pest, and effectively stop you from fighting / having fun. All that and we haven't even talked about the psychological aspects of smack talking or propagandic YouTube videos yet.
You said it best yourself elsewhere (quote worthy actually). Something like: 'I can kill anyone in the game, but some of them I cannot out-fly'. That's what I meant by workaround.
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I have an idea: Do not be tolerant of someone who's only goal in the game is to make you miserable.
If you are miserable in a game, you are doing something wrong.
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However said player is still flying AcesHigh, and still doing the same thing to multiple players of the game.
I too shoot lots of players in the game. It is part of the game. If you fly in the same area over and over you will get shot by the same folks. The irritation is something you have an issue with.
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I too shoot lots of players in the game. It is part of the game. If you fly in the same area over and over you will get shot by the same folks. The irritation is something you have an issue with.
Respectfuly I think we're talking about completely different things bud.
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Why doesn't AH3 use a 'Anit-Cheat' program like Punkbuster? It will kick a hacker out until they download a clean version, that way no one is thrown out and eliminate/reduce questionable activity.
Not hacking. Just using another account.
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I really fail to understand the continual projection of emotional reaction. Where does that automatic corelation originate? Is that a standard assumption with any kind of complaint, legitimate or not? I have never beaten my dog, wept myself to sleep, threw my joystick against the wall (someone once told me they did that), or had to put £5 into the swearbox over AH. Some of us are simply stating that deliberate griefing of your game play is annoying, morally indefensible and apparently against AH's TOS. Again, if you haven't experienced this then do not make assumptions about how people react or pass it off lightly. You would also find that your available game time is spoiled. Over and over again. The complaint is as simple as that really.
Yes fight. Now when someone prevents you from doing that during your paid gametime...
Eventually you'll learn the only two choices are to avoid as much as possible, which comes down to small gaps of time when a person has multiple accounts or to log off (also evidently rewarding to some).
There's no hacking bud, it's possible to do this with an untampered version of the game. Usually at least two copies actually.
Let's make an essential distinction between ACM and griefing. I have (once again) no objection to the BnZ style of energy fighting. I'm suggesting that if you want to do way more killing that getting killed, and want to grief other people then this is the approach for you. It took me about three years to learn to stall fight the way I do and about one month to learn to BnZ (admitted I already knew a lot more about simulated flight by then). BnZ has manifold tactical advantages over turn / stall fighting, especially in aircraft that are also competent energy builders (like the LA7 or admittedly 190D-9). You can more safely extract in the vert. Your SA is enhanced. Your gunnery is enhanced. You are less pressured to make decisions with fuzzy data. It is a simpler flowchart-like system. You are able to maintain orientation. Your T.E.D. is minimal. You have the option to break off your attack or escape the fight at any time (with planning). You can dictate the fight to the opponent instead of the other way around. You can prevent your opponent from leaving and should be able to kill him from relative safety once you've established an advantage or the moment a third party engages him. Now couple that with dubious motivation and additional tactical information not available to TOS-abiding players and you have a player / plane / tactic combination that can truly be a pest, and effectively stop you from fighting / having fun. All that and we haven't even talked about the psychological aspects of smack talking or propagandic YouTube videos yet.
You said it best yourself elsewhere (quote worthy actually). Something like: 'I can kill anyone in the game, but some of them I cannot out-fly'. That's what I meant by workaround.
This just sounds like you are upset because someone flies different than you do.
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This just sounds like you are upset because someone flies different than you do.
Even though I actually STATE that's not the case? Sigh.
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I have (once again) no objection to the BnZ style of energy fighting.
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Even though I actually STATE that's not the case? Sigh.
Yes you actually felt you needed to state that because of .... What you were stating. It is what it is.
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Yes you actually felt you needed to state that because of .... What you were stating. It is what it is.
It was a qualification. Are you sure you're not just trying to be clever bud? What would you have me do? NOT state things I think :rolleyes:
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Volron wins!
As for whining about whomever, who cares?! Don't let anyone get under your skin. Block them, switch countries, then shoot them down. If they PM you, block them again. SEMP is onto something. Kill'm, move one. With Skyr, he somehow agitated people. I flew with him and against him, don't think I ever shot him down, watched him chat lots of smack....Who cares?!
Hey, keep your "E" up, head on a swivel, lots of lead, and call check 6's,....other than that, move on.
Boo
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By all means continue the unfounded assertions of histrionic emotional responses, groundless whining and unjustified complaining while at the same time completely failing to understand the subtle differences between normal gameplay and what's being described. :rolleyes:
Gets quite tiresome sometimes putting energy into this place. No wonder nothing is ever decisively done to put and end to this sort of thing. It's either a violation of the TOS or it isn't. If it is then an official mechanism should be put in place to deal with it whenever it occurs. Not just when a very public incident happens.
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By all means continue the unfounded assertions of histrionic emotional responses, groundless whining and unjustified complaining while at the same time completely failing to understand the subtle differences between normal gameplay and what's being described. :rolleyes:
Gets quite tiresome sometimes putting energy into this place. No wonder nothing is ever decisively done to put and end to this sort of thing. It's either a violation of the TOS or it isn't. If it is then an official mechanism should be put in place to deal with it whenever it occurs. Not just when a very public incident happens.
Trying to explain anything to someone who has made up their mind is pointless. I tried. You quit so I'll just say good bye.
The rest of us will be having fun in AHII? There were over 200 this afternoon.
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Trying to explain anything to someone who has made up their mind is pointless. I tried. You quit so I'll just say good bye.
That's funny. That's exactly the impression I formed about you. I didn't quit the game if that's what you're implying. I'll be back as soon as I can get some more up to date hardware.
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I guess, nrshida, I just don't agree with you that Starfox (I'm assuming we're still talking about Starfox) is lacking in the acm department. Perhaps you haven't had many opportunities to catch him disadvantaged, or at a fair start? If he's always catching you preoccupied it's going to be hard to form a good opinion.
I guess the crux is part of your sentence should be able to kill him from relative safety once you've established an advantage
I don't have a problem with someone establishing an advantage over me during a fight. That's the whole idea, no?
I started this film a little late, but I started with about a 2-3k alt advantage (I'd call that ideal). He didn't run--he stuck around, worked me pretty good, established an advantage, and won. There's other examples I don't have on film of him winning more decisively from worse situations. The guy knows his ACM - at least better than I do (and I don't think I'm terrible).
http://www.mediafire.com/file/o0v388fz9yd5o6w/good_MA_starfox_fight.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/o0v388fz9yd5o6w/good_MA_starfox_fight.ahf)
I think sometimes (and I've been guilty of it too), people assume that just because they are going to stall fight, the other guy must do so as well. Some then get upset if he doesn't match them bit by bit, and say he doesn't have any skill. This doesn't make sense to me. Isn't a huge part of advanced ACM (really the whole concept if you think about it), judging-->understanding-->exploiting relative energy states?
Sawzaw is a good example of this. He's a great stick who beats me quite often -- there probably isn't another guy (currently playing for more than an hour-per-quarter) who is as good at power on/power off stalls in the K4 and when to apply them. Anyone who knows what I'm talking about knows that this isn't easy. He needs to be treated with respect when you fight him and you need to be aware of where your flight path is going to take you (and where that K4 is capable of swinging to) on every loop. That said, those same stall moves kill energy. He's going for the shot. If you can avoid the shot (usually by using the vertical in some fashion), you can build an energy advantage over him and kill him. At which point he will whine to high holy hell about how you are not really fighting, simply because you understood what he was going to do and countered it appropriately.
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I guess, nrshida, I just don't agree with you that Starfox (I'm assuming we're still talking about Starfox) is lacking in the acm department.
I didn't mention a single name in this thread and actually based my comments on experiences with another. Skyyr was always civil to me and we had interesting conversations. Was partially from studying his videos I learned to BnZ. He might be Starfox or not. I've never ran across him or had dealings with him.
My comments in this thread were not so much directed at ACM but what you do with it. I object to griefing other players by using unfair advantage. I have no problem myself getting out flown regardless of tactic or plane choice. I agree that's the game.
I was simply observing from an ACM standpoint that energy fighting and especially BnZ is a more effective method. Although less fun for me personally.
Sawzaw deliberately burns energy for angles and indeed it is appropriate to exploit that gamble by countering with energy fighting. I think he just complains, swears and threatens whenever he gets shot down.
I can't watch your film if it's an AHIII film. I was left behind by old hardware. Apologies.
Starfox could be the best, most knowledgeable and skilled flyer that AH has ever seen and it's still entirely irrelevant to the discussion if a good portion of gameplay is dedicated to deliberately damaging the gameplay of others.
Once again, is this a violation of AH TOS or isn't it?
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If you are miserable in a game, you are doing something wrong.
Was that the object of my sentence? Do you understand English?
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Seems to me that if you're being hunted or "griefed" by someone, just go to the other front. The griefer(s) will have to change country to follow you. If they do, change fronts again and they will be blocked by the 12-hour limit on changing countries.
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Considering the reading comprehension going on here I'm more concerned with how some of these people made it out of high school. :headscratch:
Seems to me that if you're being hunted or "griefed" by someone, just go to the other front. The griefer(s) will have to change country to follow you. If they do, change fronts again and they will be blocked by the 12-hour limit on changing countries.
It's 6 hours and one of said griefers has a 2nd account to log into to get around the limit.
I cannot stream AcesHigh III anymore due to said griefer, he is impossible to avoid. His goal is not to play the game, it is only to grief at every moment possible. HTC refuse to anything about said griefer having returned to the game.
My account ends in 13 days because the game is no longer policed for the benefit of the players. It is however policed for the benefit of more subscriptions and said griefer has twice the investment in the subscription than I do... So diddly it.
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I'm curious as to how he does his griefing. Ok, so he tracks you with a second account logged on to your country. Then he hunts you. Is he alone or does he fly with a gang? Do you lonewolf or are you in a squad? It can't be impossible to turn the tables on this guy.
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I'm curious as to how he does his griefing. Ok, so he tracks you with a second account logged on to your country. Then he hunts you. Is he alone or does he fly with a gang? Do you lonewolf or are you in a squad? It can't be impossible to turn the tables on this guy.
In theory but practically not. You'd have to spend over ten years on the same Dicta Boelcke rule number 1 perfection, get your own second and probably third account and even then they'd still be ten years ahead of you in practice.
Also I suspect the number of hours played by the present subject in question could not be matched by any person with a full time job. Although I haven't checked that on the score pages.
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What is his preferred ride?
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And pardon me for saying so shida, but this person is just a man. Your comment comes across as very defeatist. If he flies alone then Dolby or yourself can match his advantage in intel and preparation with numbers. I'd gladly fly high cover for someone being griefed like this.
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I just read through the terms of service again. I can't find any restrictions on gameplay or player behavior at all. No limit on accounts or their use. A bit unusual, but very Texan...
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And pardon me for saying so shida, but this person is just a man. Your comment comes across as very defeatist. If he flies alone then Dolby or yourself can match his advantage in intel and preparation with numbers. I'd gladly fly high cover for someone being griefed like this.
That's a kind offer but actually I experienced a similar griefing from another (now well known) griefer. I'm trying to keep the discussion on the general sense of TOS violation.
This isn't the first and won't be the last time this had happened.
Further I wouldn't employ the same tactics since I morally object to them - besides being a violation by myself of the TOS. All these reading comprehensionly-challenged contributors are wrong. Getting shot down isn't very meaningful to me. Heck, sometimes I even get outflown then I just get my Borg on. :D
Thanks again.
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Anytime. When you get back I'll gladly wing with you. :cheers:
If the arena is a sandbox that isn't policed in any way other than language, then the players must police themselves. Known griefers should be kept an eye on and their whereabouts posted on ch200 if they're up to no good...
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I cannot stream AcesHigh III anymore due to said griefer, he is impossible to avoid.
Why can't you stream? I don't understand?
Also, how many of you guys can this fellow grief at once? Not saying it doesn't happen, but...
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I was simply observing from an ACM standpoint that energy fighting and especially BnZ is a more effective method. Although less fun for me personally.
It's only more effective for people who are appropriately aggressive, and I'll give Starfox all the credit in the world for being one of the *very* few people in this game who have that style yet who are fun to fight.
Most guys who BnZ have absolutely no idea what they're doing, and some don't ever figure it out despite playing for over a decade.
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Yup. Proper BnZ you seldom come across. If done properly the best you can hope for is a stalemate.
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Locked for violation of rule #8.