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Title: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Randy1 on September 30, 2016, 03:10:58 PM
I have been trying to set my head position like I did in ah2.  In AH3 using the ctrlF5 and ctrl F1 keys, I turn trackir off,  hit rear view and release to go to my saved head position then set my head position, hit f10, watch for the text confirmation then turn back on with trackir.

I get the confirmation but my head position goes back to the same position as if I had done nothing.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: FLS on September 30, 2016, 03:42:44 PM
Try F10 to save your position when TrackIR is on and you're looking back.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Randy1 on October 01, 2016, 07:37:59 AM
Anybody else having trouble setting trackir head position.   I think I will delete setting folder and try again.

Setting head position with trackir off kept like left and right set if you just wanted to move up and down.   Are we still suffering from that head tilt down thing?
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Beau on October 01, 2016, 07:56:39 AM
The only problem that I am having with trackir in AH3 as apposed to AH2 is in certain Corsairs. I wish someone would check it out and see if they have the same problem. If you lean forward in most planes and then hit your home key or what ever your home key is it will set that view as your in plane head position. It sits you way back from the instrument panel and when you turn and look back it sits you away from the back seat so you can see around it very well. The problem is that in all Corsairs except for the -1 when you do this you have no freedom of head position in the X setting which is being able to lean left and right to see around the nose or over or under a bar. And it is only when looking in the forward position. All other positions, such as looking left or right or back work fine. Very annoying as my favorite ride is Corsairs. It does not do this in any other plane. AH2 worked find. Check it out please and let me know if you have the same issue.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: FLS on October 01, 2016, 07:59:26 AM
The Home key sets the default view. To save your view use the F10 key. If you put your head too far back it won't move side to side as much.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: The Fugitive on October 01, 2016, 09:14:44 AM
I dont know if you all know this but Hitech changed it so that lets say you want to look back and check your six. You have a key to switch to that view and as you move your "head" around with track IR it will stay locked in that view but you can look around the head rest. You dont have to lean forward and look back.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Randy1 on October 01, 2016, 01:05:54 PM
What is the file name for saving head position?

Right now no matter what I try I can't save the head position using trackir.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: FLS on October 01, 2016, 01:11:11 PM
Look for the .hps files in setting/planes. You can modify them in notepad or just delete the one you want to reset to default.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Randy1 on October 01, 2016, 01:29:03 PM
Look for the .hps files in setting/planes. You can modify them in notepad or just delete the one you want to reset to default.

Thank you.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: bustr on October 01, 2016, 02:48:23 PM
Look for the .hps files in setting/planes. You can modify them in notepad or just delete the one you want to reset to default.

Default file, Key press to F10 position saved format.


 -X-Axis---Y-Axis---Z-Axis
  Left-Rht|.Up-Dwn.|.For-Bak| x,y,z mouse pitch (tilted gunsight view) |
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 8
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 4
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 6
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 5
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 4+5
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 6+5
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 4+0
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 6+0
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 7
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 9
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 8+5
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 7+5
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 9+5
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 8+0
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 7+0
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 9+0
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 2
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 1
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 3
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 2+5
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 1+5
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 3+5
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 2+0
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 1+0
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 NUM_Key 3+0
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: FLS on October 01, 2016, 02:51:37 PM
Nice reference bustr.  :aok
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: hitech on October 01, 2016, 02:58:59 PM
For those who understand hex, the row number is just the sum of the bits.


#define viewVB_LEFT   0x00000001
#define viewVB_RIGHT  0x00000002
#define viewVB_UP     0x00000004
#define viewVB_DOWN   0x00000008
#define viewVB_FWD    0x00000010
#define viewVB_BACK   0x00000020
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Randy1 on October 02, 2016, 08:10:11 AM
I spent sometime trying to set the head position and save it.  You can do it but it is not easy.  With just a slight change in the saved position can have a dramatic effect on the trackir head position.  In ah2 the correlation between saved head position and trackir was 1:1.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: popeye on October 06, 2016, 01:23:04 PM
I find that the TIR position (at least for forward) is slightly different than the saved position and the difference seems to vary between aircraft.  The TIR position puts the reticle slightly higher in the gunsight than the saved position.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: FLS on October 06, 2016, 03:21:21 PM
I find that the TIR position (at least for forward) is slightly different than the saved position and the difference seems to vary between aircraft.  The TIR position puts the reticle slightly higher in the gunsight than the saved position.

The forward view, KP8, is set to an over the nose view so it's higher than the front view.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Randy1 on October 06, 2016, 03:25:01 PM
I find that the TIR position (at least for forward) is slightly different than the saved position and the difference seems to vary between aircraft.  The TIR position puts the reticle slightly higher in the gunsight than the saved position.

That is the problem.  On the P-38L, I spent about and hour trying to get the head position right then finally gave up.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Wiley on October 06, 2016, 03:28:21 PM
I was able to get it close enough just by turning TIR off, moving the head a bit below where I wanted it, then saving it with F10, then turning TIR back on to see what I had.

It took some fiddling, but generally only a couple minutes.

Wiley.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Randy1 on October 06, 2016, 03:39:25 PM
I was able to get it close enough just by turning TIR off, moving the head a bit below where I wanted it, then saving it with F10, then turning TIR back on to see what I had.

It took some fiddling, but generally only a couple minutes.

Wiley.

i got the 47 right quick but the 38 is a real pain.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: FLS on October 06, 2016, 03:44:01 PM
That is the problem.  On the P-38L, I spent about and hour trying to get the head position right then finally gave up.

That's odd that you can't set it. I plugged my TrackIR in, started AH without VR and the gunsight was slightly low. I pressed my "tracker center" button and the gunsight was centered in the glass. I took off the headset and the gunsight was still centered in the glass.

If you need to restore defaults just delete the P38L hps file.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Wiley on October 06, 2016, 04:13:32 PM
That's odd that you can't set it. I plugged my TrackIR in, started AH without VR and the gunsight was slightly low. I pressed my "tracker center" button and the gunsight was centered in the glass. I took off the headset and the gunsight was still centered in the glass.

If you need to restore defaults just delete the P38L hps file.

Easy, quick test.  Follow these steps:

Start the game with TrackIR
Pause TrackIR (F9 is default button)
Move the head position up a bit, 1/4" should be enough.
Hit F10 to save position.
Unpause TrackIR (F9 is default button)

What happens on my machine is, the head position jumps up a bit.  If you keep TrackIR enabled and hit F10, every time you do it the head position will jump up a bit more.  Makes it tricky to get your head just where you want it.

It doesn't have anything to do with TrackIR losing center, it's where the game is recording the center position of the head.

Wiley.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: FLS on October 06, 2016, 04:20:37 PM
It jumps up because your head is above the saved position. If your head was below the saved position it would jump down.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Wiley on October 06, 2016, 04:29:40 PM
Do you mean above the default position?  If so, that's how it seems to me.

It also seems like the further you are from center the more it jumps at a time.

Wiley.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: FLS on October 06, 2016, 05:19:07 PM
Leave trackir on, move to the position you want, press F10.

Sit normally, press "tracker center".
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: hitech on October 06, 2016, 09:05:50 PM
Leave trackir on, move to the position you want, press F10.

Sit normally, press "tracker center".

This is the prescribed method.
Title: Re: TrackIR and saved F10 headposition?
Post by: Traveler on October 08, 2016, 09:06:14 AM
i got the 47 right quick but the 38 is a real pain.

Have you tried firing up the TrackIR software outside of AH3 and ensuring that you are zeroed out and able to turn your head in all directions.  That if the headtilt down thing is a problem.  I use TrackIR and my wingman uses TrackIR and we use it out of the box, no changes to the default profile.  It works fine, have no issues.