Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: FLOOB on October 05, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
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Save yourself the frustration and money and buy quality headphones that aren't marketed toward gamers, and buy a separate quality microphone. In fact if at all possible avoid buying any hardware that's marketed towards gamers. One thing that I've repeatedly and painfully learned in the past 20 years of pc gaming is that the overwhelming majority of "gaming" hardware and peripherals are overpriced and designed to fail within a couple of years.
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It's been said many times before, and yet there will be people that will swear the stuff is great.
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I took Chalenge's advice on this a while back, I have quite a few "gaming" headsets, not as many as I have mech keyboards, but enough. I decided to get the Sony MDRs he was using, and haven't looked back. They were under 130 CDN delivered, not much more than a "gaming" set, and are 10x better IMO.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AJIF4E?pldnSite=1
or
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00001WRSJ?pldnSite=1
Either cost around $100USD, and blow any "gaming" set out of the water. Add a modmic, or some other type of decent desktop mic, presto, audio issues solved. DAC isn't a bad option to add, but you still get good solid sound without one with the MBs out these days.
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i have a surround headset. nothing beats surround sound.
semp
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Microsoft lifechat
2 in 14 years and good mic
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Microsoft lifechat
2 in 14 years and good mic
Logictech, like G-35, or something. Cheap ,surround sound, about 7 years and still working.
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I know this is a little off topic but I've been at this stuff since the early 70's and watched a lot of trends I thoroughly believe the terms "gamer" "gaming" have come to represent lower tier products.
I have Asus mobo's and even they changed the term PRO Gamer to PRO gaming in an attempt to somehow make it sound more "professional".
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Thanks for the tip. :aok
I've never fallen for any "gaming" or "gamer" stuff, but I've been wondering if their price really correlates with quality. Now I know it doesn't and can warn people about it.
This forum has taught me a lot of things, kudos to all who've added my knowledge. :cheers:
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Yeah, I use the same mics that professionals in radio and television use, plus some. If you have an actual interface like this:
(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq197/Chalenge08/FCA1616_zpsy86thw2r.jpg)
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(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq197/Chalenge08/Xenyx_zpst3yk27sl.jpg)
Then you are MILES ahead of onboard, or USB headphones, and especially single-unit 7.1 audio.
Setting up even just two speakers for audio monitoring is very complex. There is no way in this world that a company can manufacture a single-device 7.1 system that is just inches from your head (or less) and provide for surround-like separation.
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Sennheiser best set I've ever used. They are expensive.
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Best headphones I have ever tried:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1080926&gclid=CNPPzLGAx88CFYRGXgodBuEIrQ&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&c3api=1876%2C92051677442%2C&Q=&A=details
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Yeah I had a special mixer and 5.1 set up for video back when I was doing it. At most head phones alone will give you the sensation of 7.1 audio but I find it good enough. For instance in single person shooters I can tell if a sound is left/rear, right/front....ect The Logic tech has software that lets you listen to the 7.1 audio of a woman talking and its a pretty good imitation of 7.1 audio. Or 5.1 . Correct me if Im wrong but AH is stereo only correct?
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No, Aces High does true 3D sounds. It's not Dolby or any other encoding. Aces High has been doing true 3D audio for over ten years.
The audio system, in the game, will create all the channels needed to match the speaker configuration of the computer.
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OK, thanks. AH does have good locational audio like when a tank is rolling in you can tell exactly from which way its coming. I'd recommend these G35s for gaming and general use. For about $50 they do deliver pretty good audio.
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Not everyone can afford to have a sound dampened room for gaming, but if you can afford to commit a room for surround that's the best way to play I think. I'm going to have to fix that up this holiday.
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Sennheiser best set I've ever used. They are expensive.
You can get sennheisers that cost less than any high end gaming headset. Considering what you get, sennheisers are really a bargain, a $100 Corsair headset will break apart within 1 year.
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-201-Lightweight-Over-Headphones/dp/B0007XJSQC/ref=pd_lpo_23_lp_t_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=J8XHP2S21QEBN64PWA8M
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-202-Professional-Headphones-Black/dp/B003LPTAYI/ref=pd_lpo_23_bs_t_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=J8XHP2S21QEBN64PWA8M
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-598-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0042A8CW2
Whatever happened to those big bellybutton indestructible headphones that we used to listen to the phonograph back in elementary school?
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Best headphones I have ever tried:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1080926&gclid=CNPPzLGAx88CFYRGXgodBuEIrQ&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&c3api=1876%2C92051677442%2C&Q=&A=details
Does Sony make an open back version of the 7506?
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If they have then I have not seen them. I think there is an MDR-F1 that is, but it's also three times the money.
There is a cloth wrap that fits the 7506 (non-Sony brand) and I ordered them by the gross. The wraps absorb oil and sweat and I just discard them when I feel dampness on them.
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The ear covers I bought are out of stock at the moment. They still have the white ones.
Hamilton Buhl HYGENX45
Flightcom used to have them priced at $9.95/gross, but I guess they are getting to be popular.
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I agree 100%, went though many "gaming" headsets from Sennheiser and other companies. Then I got these...
https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1475807701&sr=8-2&keywords=audio+technica+ath+700 (https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1475807701&sr=8-2&keywords=audio+technica+ath+700)
The sound quality and comfort is far better than anything I've used before. I use the microphone that came with this card...
https://www.amazon.com/Blaster-Performance-Headphone-Forming-Microphone/dp/B009ISU33E/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1475808132&sr=8-31&keywords=creative+x-fi (https://www.amazon.com/Blaster-Performance-Headphone-Forming-Microphone/dp/B009ISU33E/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1475808132&sr=8-31&keywords=creative+x-fi)
I've used this setup for many years and it is still like new. Overall it is MUCH better in every way. YMMV
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some good points are given on a good stereo head set and that is a good thing. in my opinion nothing beats a decent 5.1 headset when you are in the middle of a fight and you hear the planes going all around you. you know when they're behind you and move all the way to the front. you know the position just based on sound.
it brings a lot of immersion. you can tell if the plane is behind you, next to you or in front. or whichever direction it is moving.
semp
semp
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I have rocat Kave 5.1
Which is not simulated
Only downside is they have 3 square pads on the headband which are made from solid plastic.
I put a pad over them
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I think headphones used for gaming don't need and aren't expected to recreate the fine nuances of the piccolo in a very quiet music passage with very high dynamic range.
I think it's a shame to use the wrong headset when for less you can get a 5.1 headset, I agree most aren't ideal for music but the range and fidelity are more then enough and the positional awareness so far outweighs the need for extreme fidelity of a Hi end Stereo headset.
Here is a great thread about "surround" headphone scams. Spoiler it may offend some "5.1 USB" headsets.
http://www.overclock.net/t/640943/why-5-1-headphones-are-a-scam-with-pictures
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That's why the headphones I use range up to just 20kHz, instead of 30kHz, or the 100kHz that the better headphones can reach. Humans just can't hear that high, but the range of those headphones also means they have better response to frequencies near the upper extent of human hearing. Middle-aged humans usually will lose the upper range between 14kHz and 20kHz, with the elderly sometimes losing a great deal more. The most important range for humans is between 85Hz and 255Hz, which is the range of human speech (men ranging in the lower 100Hz, and women in the upper). Bass response is usually weakest in headphones because of the relatively narrow cone size, and short coil lengths, but you do not need a lot of bass anyway, really. At least, not right up next to your ear you don't.
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I just bought a Corsair wireless headset. It sounds fantastic. When I first got them, I kept taking them off because I thought my desk speakers were still playing. The surround is so good it sounded like some sounds were coming from 5 feet in front of me.
I bought a $10 2 year replacement warranty. Perhaps they will meet my big rare earth magnet at year 1.9.
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I did spend way too much money on my headset but it sounds great and is comfortable. Astrogaming.
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These things are solid.
https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Cloud-Gaming-Headset-PS4/dp/B00SAYCXWG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476491159&sr=8-1&keywords=Hyper+x
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Not only do I use the 7506 for gaming, but I also use the HN-7506 in the field. Makes it easier to monitor the audio recording around gunshots and engine sounds.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/283347-REG/Remote_Audio_HN7506_HN_7506_High_Noise_Isolating.html
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These things are solid.
https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Cloud-Gaming-Headset-PS4/dp/B00SAYCXWG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476491159&sr=8-1&keywords=Hyper+x
You use Simulated surround sound.
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Yes, but at least he got a decent headset out of it. They are quality built, and include a microphone, plus you can detach the headphone and mic and carry the headphones with you for whatever reason. I watched Jayz's review on this and the microphone is heavily compressed, but it should be good for AH because you can change the mic level on the go without having to alt-tab out.
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You use Simulated surround sound.
Yes its better. Like iced tea. :old: