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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SFOX on October 12, 2016, 09:47:02 PM
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As you all know I formed a squad known as the Shade Hunters try to combat the those using second accounts to bring an unfair advantage.
Our squad was holding out for AHIII thinking fixes would come. But now using a shade account on AHIII you can also track players on the ground.
There is a consensuses when we catch people in AHIII using a shade to cheat, that paying for two or more accounts has saved the game $.
I have a list of 12 account names that are no longer playing AH due to this new exposure. I am wondering if others have seen their squad numbers drop as I have.
Fixes that I think will work:
Make it so only squad members can see squad members on the map, otherwise you get to see radar bars and need to use radio comms between players and squads.
This would also work for missions where everyone in mission could see all players in mission.
We should remove the tank players and positions all together. There is no radar for that anyway. (This worked just find on AHII).
This is a last ditch attempt for me to see if we can get some people back into playing.
Over all I think the new game is better with the exception of the new shade abilities.
I am thinking it would be more fun to be more like WWII conditions. And yes they had spies but those spies didn't have that much real time info. :salute
Let's lets get some feed back on this one.
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Give it up rube. You'll never catch me.
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You're saying you forced 12 people to quit the game?
You know accusations should only go directly to HTC and not be posted on the BB.
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If I was making accusations there would be player call signs listed here. This is more of a open discussion.
As a business man I see this a an open discussion with fixes that will bring in more money for HTC in the long run.
We are not trying to catch or shame anyone here.
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You didn't answer the question. Did you harass 12 people until they quit?
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No they were all squad members of 335th. I was not answering you because I didn't think your response was a serious reply to the post. Maybe it was your wording. I am looking for serious adult responses if possible.
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I read your statement as exposing 12 people but you mean 12 people quit because somebody can see where they are and might try to attack them.
It's still not a topic for the forum. If you have a problem with a player's behavior, contact HTC, do not post it on the BB.
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There is a consensuses when we catch people in AHIII using a shade...
I seriously doubt you have "caught" people as you think, simply because you accuse almost every player on every other side of this. Someone checks a flashing base and kills one of your M3's -- you level this accusation on 200. Someone ups to defend a base with the town white-flagged, you accuse them of having a second account. Someone shoots you down -- you accuse them of cheating on 200.
Every night it's the same thing -- you accusing people of things on 200. You've accused me openly on 200 many times, mostly for ridiculous things like upping at a flashing base. Frankly, I am sick of it. If you have a legitimate complaint, take it directly to HTC: support@hitechcreations.com They have my permission to tell you how many AH accounts I have ever had, because it's only ever been ONE.
What you fail to recognize is that your own continuous false public accusations every night in game do far more to undermine the game than what you claim above.
In an effort to actually help you: I will tell you the real problem is that your tactics are always the same and they have become very predictable. Where you attack is predictable. When you will attack is predictable. How you will attack is predictable. If I encounter one of your squadmates at a base, I know exactly what's going on and who is doing what. I know who is in what aircraft/vehicle and what they are doing. If your first M3 gets killed, you'll bring another and run the troops long (the old troop drop and bail method). I know your squad tactics so well, I could teach them to new members for you. I'm certain I am not alone in this. People don't need shade accounts to know what you're doing or going to do, because we've all seen it hundreds of times before.
Maybe it's time to try some new tactics or approaches to the game. Try flying different aircraft. Try focusing on base-defense occasionally (arguably a more challenging aspect of the game). Learn how to shoot with the 88, so you will stop accusing me of cheating every time I kill you with it... :D Try anything new.
I think these suggestions will serve you much better than your post here.
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Yeah this thread will be locked by 6.45AM Central time.
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Shades are a myth :old:
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Shades are a myth :old:
Really..... what are those then?
(http://r-m.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/new-ideas-red-blinds-and-pink-shades-mogo-madison-park-group-20.jpg)
England, that is a myth. Just a conspiracy of cartographers.
I heard that SFox got 50 shades of gray banned from the game.
... now that I think of it, "50 shades of gray" is a good name for a squadron.
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I will admit we have falsely accused people over the last few years. With as many false accusations we have also had mostly real shade cheaters as well. For those falsely accused I am very sorry for the harm done. Exposing the cheating does make the cheating worse, because more are aware of the issue.
I had a player admit last night that they had two accounts and was wondering how I could get GVs back to the city so fast. I didn't tell him about the hill from the spawn point that allow tank speed to reach 230 MPH, or the tree at the bottom that stopped the 230 mph tank. But the fact is they knew I was flying a plane without a kill or death and knew I was also back in a tank at the city quickly.
The point was he was using the second account to resup the city when I was flying and grabbed a plane when I was in a GV.
Bombing was easy for him because of quick location knowing where to look for me.
This lack of mystery in the game takes a lot fun out of it. I think mystery in the game makes it better.
As far as second accounts I think they could continue with less information available for those using them. Meaning HTC could maintain second account revenue and see if the changes bring back players that no longer play.
I see limited in country information as a win win for everyone encouraging players to work together to win the maps.
Like all of you I only want to see HTC beat the Russian's at the on line combat flight sim gaming world. Aces High stands out because it is a full war sim, while it is the best flight sim at the same time. taking maps gives meaning to the full war concept. Using a shade account makes time wasted playing the game feel like time wasted on a whole not so new level. Yes I would say even more meaningless.
While aces high is the best in my option I would like to see 800 player arenas full once again as in the past.
:salute
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BTW I have never been band from the game ever.
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Well if they do lock this thread, just know that I am very loyal and longtime customer of HTC. And this is my first ever, and I only post when I believe there is merit with the purpose of making the game better.
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All you do is harass people like Kingpin described. I have seen you harass new players just because you don't recognize their handle. I wonder how many new player's you've chased from the game? I'm sure that it's more than the number of so-called shades you've caught.
You've accused me and others for years of using a shade account, every time I shoot you down you've accused me of using one. The last time was just last week when I was bombing a V base and noticed a Lancaster parked on the small runway so I vulched it. The funny thing is that after I vulched your Lancaster, I said on country channel that you're going to accuse me of using a shade account and you didn't disappoint.
You are also a hypocrite as you've admitted to using a shade account (and others in your squadron) yourself to hunt and track players that you think are using one. But you claim it's okay in your case to use a shade account.
It's not the "shade accounts" that are ruining this game and potentially making players leave, it's you and the actions of your squadron that continue to berate people that you think are using a shade account.
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All you do is harass people like Kingpin described. I have seen you harass new players just because you don't recognize their handle. I wonder how many new player's you've chased from the game? I'm sure that it's more than the number of so-called shades you've caught.
You've accused me and others for years of using a shade account, every time I shoot you down you've accused me of using one. The last time was just last week when I was bombing a V base and noticed a Lancaster parked on the small runway so I vulched it. The funny thing is that after I vulched your Lancaster, I said on country channel that you're going to accuse me of using a shade account and you didn't disappoint.
You are also a hypocrite as you've admitted to using a shade account (and others in your squadron) yourself to hunt and track players that you think are using one. But you claim it's okay in your case to use a shade account.
It's not the "shade accounts" that are ruining this game and potentially making players leave, it's you and the actions of your squadron that continue to berate people that you think are using a shade account.
I remember him accusing your or I as a shade because I called out the high f4u as him a few weeks back. Sorry, if I see you at a fight, and you are hovering in a f4u, distinctively to your style, I will take a wild guess as to who it is. If I am right or wrong, oh well.
I really think there is only one player here abusing this, and everyone knows who it is based on the discussions had on range online, or between text comms. But lets not go there.
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We have a Scenario coming up. I'll use a shade on the side HiTech is playing and give away his position. This shade business is lots of fun. HiTech needs to join in.
With our clipboard I can see who is flying what and if they are in a tank.
Solution is to limit squad positions to the squad.
On the other hand, Hitech take note, this is good for business. Everyone will need shades to see what the other side is doing. Hitech should offer 2 accounts for $24.95.
2x subscribers.
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what I would like to know in the recent patch details
2. Fixed a bug where the "wingman" command would highlight enemies.
How long has this been present? just beta or AH2 also? It would definitely explain how one particular person always found the last guy that killed him so easily. I will cut him some slack if so because he may have felt that it was a "feature". I can stop guessing what 2nd account is his on my team. :noid
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what I would like to know in the recent patch details
2. Fixed a bug where the "wingman" command would highlight enemies.
How long has this been present? just beta or AH2 also? It would definitely explain how one particular person always found the last guy that killed him so easily. I will cut him some slack if so because he may have felt that it was a "feature". I can stop guessing what 2nd account is his on my team. :noid
I am 95% sure this was in AH3 only.
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ah I just saw your above post and I went there! bad bruv!
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Making it harder to find combat isn't going to save the game, it's going to kill it.
I see a lot of people on here talking about how they want new players to join the game so that the numbers can once again be in the 600 range but whenever a new player does join they accuse him of being a shade account and drive them away.
Be honest now, are you trying to make the game better for all or are you trying to make the game fit your very specific needs and to hell with everyone else?
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I don't think we will gain anything from this post of we spend time looking at the past on this post because it does nothing. This post is to help HTC create ideas to stop the second accounts. If no one has second accounts then no one will care if it gets fixed. I would think you would be in support for this. Let's fix it into a win win win situation for everyone right? Now lets think of some positive ideas. After all if the problem does get fixed no player can use a second account for the reason of peeking over at the other countries. Everyone not cheating will love this idea. :) :salute
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I guess I don't understand. Simply if I was a shade cheater then I would not want this problem fixed. But if I was a shade cheater I would not want things to change. It is that simple what is my motivation here? What is the motivation of those against it? :airplane:
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So you want us to ignore your constant harassment of players that you accuse of using a shade account to violate the TOS, while you admit to doing it yourself? How many players have you chased away with your false allegations?
Has it entered into that little mind of yours that maybe the reason why the people you still accuse and have reported to HTC are still playing is because you were wrong and falsely accused them?
The problem isn't shade accounts, it's you and your squadron.
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It is just strange how so many attack when we should all enjoy the idea of fixing the real cheats.
What is your motive to spend time looking at the past. What is it going to fix?
Who is Cybro ?
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It is just strange how so many attack when we should all enjoy the idea of fixing the real cheats.
What is your motive to spend time looking at the past. What is it going to fix?
Who is Cybro ?
Because what you do hurts the game more than anything you accuse other players of doing but you're not bright enough to see that.
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SFOX, your accusations do nothing that is beneficial to Aces High, and frankly if anyone should be banned it's the "vigilante" who takes it on himself to "police" the game. As a steadfast knight, I can tell you it's always been easy to know when you and your ilk were around. As has been correctly noticed, your squad's style is very recognizable. We usually cheer when someone says "Got SFOX"...again.