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Title: Water is featureless
Post by: Dobs on October 17, 2016, 03:37:14 PM
Until too late (i.e. very low) or if sun angle reflects you can see some detail in the reflection....

Fighting over the water has been quite unpleasant as a result.  The aqua blue water during twilight hours would be better than the light absorbing dark blue we have.....

Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: TheRapier on October 25, 2016, 05:58:51 PM
This is BTW, one of the singular most annoying, death dealing issues in the terrain. It is better to just not fight over water as its so featureless.

Even some unrealistic waves would be better than a depthless, featureless blank.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: 100Coogn on October 25, 2016, 06:02:09 PM
Until too late (i.e. very low) or if sun angle reflects you can see some detail in the reflection....

Fighting over the water has been quite unpleasant as a result.  The aqua blue water during twilight hours would be better than the light absorbing dark blue we have.....

Perhaps fight over land?
The water is not as detrimental as you make it out to be.

Coogan
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: FireBall on October 25, 2016, 08:46:11 PM
The water looks like a feature less void and when I look in the direction of the sun two thirds of my screen is pure white.  Going back and forth huts my eyes.  Please tone down the sun and add some definition to the water.

Thank You
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: BowHTR on October 26, 2016, 05:57:27 AM
The water looks like a feature less void and when I look in the direction of the sun two thirds of my screen is pure white.  Going back and forth huts my eyes.  Please tone down the sun and add some definition to the water.

Thank You

Step outside and look at the sun. Report back your results.
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: Dobs on October 26, 2016, 07:05:56 AM
In RL you can block the sun with your hand and kill the glare. Sun effect is a bit much...kill the bloom in graphics and it goes to reasonable.  See attached picture.

Water is silly...no feedback in depth perception until several  hundred feet.   Just make the texture that is there, visible from like 3-5K and I think it will be fine. 

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Pictures attached...
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: FireBall on October 27, 2016, 10:56:42 AM
seems some people can not read.  I will type slower for them.  If you look in the general direction where the sun is located most of my screen turns pure white.  I am not talking about pointing directly at the sun and looking into it.  Reported back.  I am just trying to give positive feedback.

Thank you

FireBall
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: Ratsy on October 27, 2016, 11:34:10 AM
The water is not as detrimental as you make it out to be.

For me it depends on the time of day of the arena.  There are times when you get nothing in the way of visual feedback over water.  At those times, I just find something else to do in the game.  Like a bomber run or a GV stake-out.

 :salute
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: oboe on October 27, 2016, 11:57:03 AM
I'd like to see nVidia WaveWorks implemented in this game.  That would be VERY cool.      :x

Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 27, 2016, 12:48:38 PM
This water needs to get fixed ASAP, I feel it's very detrimental to new comers and people returning. It's bugging the hell out me, so I know it's bad for people who can't read E as well.
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: lunatic1 on October 27, 2016, 02:21:42 PM
Perhaps fight over land?
The water is not as detrimental as you make it out to be.

Coogan

uhh yes it is-when a cv group is attacking a shore base-your fighting planes off the carrier-it's hard-because the water is so dark blue-you can't tell low you are and crash.
water needs some kind of movement in/on it and a little lighter in color. :airplane:
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: 100Coogn on October 27, 2016, 02:33:36 PM
uhh yes it is-when a cv group is attacking a shore base-your fighting planes off the carrier-it's hard-because the water is so dark blue-you can't tell low you are and crash.
water needs some kind of movement in/on it and a little lighter in color. :airplane:

I was only funnin'
I haven't really had a chance to fight over water, as I've just recently gotten back into the game.
I'll check it out tonight.

Coogan  :cheers:
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: TheRapier on October 27, 2016, 06:36:24 PM
Just to note. Posting out of a lack of knowledge won't make you more knowledgeable. Actually playing the game helps a lot.

Funning in the bug forum probably isn't the wisest choice. There are plenty of other forums for that use.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: Dobs on October 28, 2016, 06:44:48 AM
seems some people can not read.  I will type slower for them.  If you look in the general direction where the sun is located most of my screen turns pure white.  I am not talking about pointing directly at the sun and looking into it.  Reported back.  I am just trying to give positive feedback.

Thank you

FireBall

Go into Graphics, post lighting, disable bloom.  Brings it down to a reasonable level IMO.
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: LCADolby on October 28, 2016, 08:45:42 AM
HiTech did say that he does intend on fixing the sea. We just have to make do for now.
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: Bizman on October 28, 2016, 09:14:54 AM
I'm eagerly waiting for these two to be combined and finished:





And I'd most likely need a new video card to enjoy the result.  :salute
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: Rich46yo on October 28, 2016, 01:43:37 PM
Actually the sun, and light, and the way light hits everything, is in MOHO the most awesome part of AHIII. Of course the water needs fixing but I hope they never touch the light or the sun period.
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: LCADolby on October 28, 2016, 02:52:14 PM
Actually the sun, and light, and the way light hits everything, is in MOHO the most awesome part of AHIII. Of course the water needs fixing but I hope they never touch the light or the sun period.

Only you have to be flat and level at about 100 feet to see it
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: FireBall on October 28, 2016, 03:09:14 PM
Thanks Dobs

The setting for disable post lighting does not seem to hold on my computer.  It does help to turn it off.  I have all lighting effects turned off then I notice very bright reflections.  I go back to settings and they are still off.  I switch them on and off and the bright reflections go away.  So cycling the settings help, but they do not stay off.  Very odd.
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: lunatic1 on October 28, 2016, 04:29:05 PM
I was only funnin'
I haven't really had a chance to fight over water, as I've just recently gotten back into the game.
I'll check it out tonight.

Coogan  :cheers:

Welcome Back  :cheers:
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: 100Coogn on October 28, 2016, 09:18:02 PM
Just to note. Posting out of a lack of knowledge won't make you more knowledgeable. Actually playing the game helps a lot.

Funning in the bug forum probably isn't the wisest choice. There are plenty of other forums for that use.

Thanks!

Damn dude, you seem a little touchy.  You going to be ok?

Coogan
Title: Re: Water is featureless
Post by: 100Coogn on October 28, 2016, 09:20:18 PM
Welcome Back  :cheers:

Thank you Sir.  I look forward to many battles/alliance with you.
I fly as Knight for the time being.

Coogan   :salute