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Title: Gear up landing
Post by: JOACH1M on October 19, 2016, 10:47:36 PM
Getting very frustrated with gear up landing situations ending with me getting killed. I had 0 issues landing under 150 true airspeed in AH2.  AH3? Good luck, blow up 7/10 times .


/whine thread closed.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 20, 2016, 12:25:33 AM
I havent had that happen? I do however tend to need to go around for geardown landings! Shorter runways I guess? I usually just retract gear on a bounce. But havent gotten killed below 180. Is it maybe in a particular plane that this happens? I am no expert here, you are a long time player,so just suggestion
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Lazerr on October 20, 2016, 12:34:29 AM
I havent had that happen? I do however tend to need to go around for geardown landings! Shorter runways I guess? I usually just retract gear on a bounce. But havent gotten killed below 180. Is it maybe in a particular plane that this happens? I am no expert here, you are a long time player,so just suggestion

I agree, this isnt happening to me to the point where I notice, but we fly totally different planes.

Any one in particular you have it happening in?
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: JOACH1M on October 20, 2016, 01:06:28 AM
The instance tonight was is in the 190A8 w/ the rockets that explode in air. Funny you say you pull your gear on a bounce, this is exactly what I did in the a8. Other instances were in a ta-152, 190D9, and La-7. 190 series seem to be the most common denominator here.

Also I have heard trying to ditch on water just blows you up aswell.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 20, 2016, 04:37:44 AM
I will check out 190s and landing on my end. It could be just a lag in refresh rate? Figure it could be the same as watching some players looking like a crash only to zoom back out of the ground :bhead Maybe you could be faster than it tells you in real time?
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Lusche on October 20, 2016, 05:00:25 AM
Getting very frustrated with gear up landing situations ending with me getting killed.


Ndisles? Because it was bugged on this map for some planes at least until last week, along with the inability to ditch in water. HT knew about it.

I will check out 190s and landing on my end. It could be just a lag in refresh rate?


Lag has nothing to do with such things, as you don't do the landing on a server but on your own computer. What others see from you is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Marco on October 20, 2016, 07:28:51 AM
I can't say this has happened to me, unless I was pulling over 150 or dipped my nose down at the wrong time. I typically fly a Spitfire, Yak, or Nik, and I usually slide right down the runway at 150 or less, so I can't speak to the outcome in a 190. :headscratch:
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Scca on October 20, 2016, 07:49:47 AM

Ndisles? Because it was bugged on this map for some planes at least until last week, along with the inability to ditch in water. HT knew about it.

Ya, I blew up on a water landing too :(
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 20, 2016, 09:02:54 AM
It's happened to me twice trying to land in water, going at least 130.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: JOACH1M on October 20, 2016, 10:09:58 AM

Ndisles? Because it was bugged on this map for some planes at least until last week, along with the inability to ditch in water. HT knew about it.


The map last night was the Buzzsaw map.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Lusche on October 20, 2016, 10:13:55 AM
The map last night was the Buzzsaw map.

Well, then there's another one.  :devil
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: JOACH1M on October 20, 2016, 10:34:24 AM
**FILM OF THE 152 INCIDENT**


https://www.mediafire.com/?91pcoxudndwhpx8
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: LilMak on October 20, 2016, 11:32:21 AM
Here's a thought...put the gear down. If it's broken, get that speed at or below 100. I've had no issues dumping busted planes in on the runway.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Lusche on October 20, 2016, 11:44:06 AM
Here's a thought...put the gear down. If it's broken, get that speed at or below 100. I've had no issues dumping busted planes in on the running.


It depends on the map. On most maps you can ditch, on at least one, possible two it's broken. It's a map bug that can't be fixed by getting even slower.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: JOACH1M on October 20, 2016, 12:00:06 PM
Here's a thought...put the gear down. If it's broken, get that speed at or below 100. I've had no issues dumping busted planes in on the running.
Sorry, with a pilot wound soon to kill me, I decided a gear down landing might end up with me dying.

Knowing what I know now, it obviously didn't matter because I died anyways.




** HiTech, I also posted a film link in the bug forum under the "DITCHING" thread.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: ONTOS on October 20, 2016, 12:33:45 PM
Landing in water 100-130 mph, lightly touching down resulted in crashes. Not a problem in AH II
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: LilMak on October 20, 2016, 12:56:03 PM

It depends on the map. On most maps you can ditch, on at least one, possible two it's broken. It's a map bug that can't be fixed by getting even slower.
Someone mentioned the Buzzsaw map. Last night I put a deadstick Jug with no elevators gear up on the runway and survived.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: JOACH1M on October 20, 2016, 01:37:05 PM
Someone mentioned the Buzzsaw map. Last night I put a deadstick Jug with no elevators gear up on the runway and survived.
Do you want a cookie?

Did you watch the film? no
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: hgtonyvi on October 20, 2016, 02:01:41 PM
Happens to me trying to Ditch in water. I blow up
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Lusche on October 20, 2016, 02:08:52 PM
Someone mentioned the Buzzsaw map. Last night I put a deadstick Jug with no elevators gear up on the runway and survived.

On NDISLES I only had that problem in the Ta 152H but not in the three or four fighters I randomly tested. Then again, it only happened on Ndsisles, not on the two other terrains I tested.
So the no wheels on runway bug was/is a map bug limited to certain planes.

For the record, I couldn't ditch any plane at all on the sea in NDisles.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Lazerr on October 20, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
Looks like he found the bug according to the thread in the bugs forum.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: save on October 20, 2016, 03:37:57 PM
A loaded FW190A8 stall at about 100 with any stick/rudder input.
Remember an loaded A8 is a pregnant hippo that use its ears as its wings  :old:

Gear down a is much better choice  if you have them intact.
Died a couple of times in gear-up landings in the 190-series of planes in AH3.

Here's a thought...put the gear down. If it's broken, get that speed at or below 100. I've had no issues dumping busted planes in on the runway.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: icepac on October 20, 2016, 04:42:56 PM
Maybe htc is forcing more realism.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: JOACH1M on October 20, 2016, 04:44:59 PM
Maybe htc is forcing more realism.
watch my film. Never in a million years what happened would happen in RL.

Plane randomly jumped 25 feet+ up and when i came back down. boom.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: RELIC on October 20, 2016, 07:50:55 PM
Gear up n runway no issues.  Anywhere else - dead.  YMMV
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Beefcake on October 20, 2016, 08:13:35 PM
You guys could try landing with the gear down, I hear that works well.


(Dick post I know, ignore and move along. :)
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: 100Coogn on October 20, 2016, 08:43:37 PM
Maybe htc is forcing more realism.

Got any footage of planes exploding into nothingness?
Pretty sure that didn't happen too many times in R/L.

Coogan.  (back to the tower for me)
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: JOACH1M on October 21, 2016, 02:28:43 AM
I understand Landing with gear down is preferred, but if heavy damaged or pilot wound it's not always that easy. AH2 was much easier to do land without landing gear. If AH3 is purposely making it more difficult, then I'll suck it up. I just was an answer if it's a bug, or something new to the game.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Becinhu on October 21, 2016, 07:44:23 AM
I haven't experienced the heavy bounce/explosion. I have noticed a lot more damaged props on landing however.


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Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: LilMak on October 21, 2016, 08:22:30 AM
Do you want a cookie?

Did you watch the film? no
Chocolate chip please.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Marco on October 21, 2016, 08:24:09 AM
I understand Landing with gear down is preferred, but if heavy damaged or pilot wound it's not always that easy. AH2 was much easier to do land without landing gear. If AH3 is purposely making it more difficult, then I'll suck it up. I just was an answer if it's a bug, or something new to the game.

It is more than possible that AH3 has made it more difficult to belly land, though I honestly have not experienced any issues (provided my speed was below 150 and my nose wasn't pointed down too far)

I also have yet to try a ditch in the water, I feel it would be much harder to accomplish. :joystick:
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: save on October 22, 2016, 04:54:27 AM
Perhaps AH should not allow gearup landings on concrete, but only on grass.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Stang on October 22, 2016, 02:04:02 PM
Waaaahh-Keeem fly planes good but no land?

Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: 100Coogn on October 22, 2016, 02:52:09 PM
It is more than possible that AH3 has made it more difficult to belly land, though I honestly have not experienced any issues (provided my speed was below 150 and my nose wasn't pointed down too far)

I also have yet to try a ditch in the water, I feel it would be much harder to accomplish. :joystick:

It will sound just as you are landing on the runway.  No splashy splashy...

Coogan
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: JOACH1M on October 22, 2016, 04:53:47 PM
Waaaahh-Keeem fly planes good but no land?
si senior!

When are you coming back? :)
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: Shuffler on October 23, 2016, 06:29:11 AM
watch my film. Never in a million years what happened would happen in RL.

Plane randomly jumped 25 feet+ up and when i came back down. boom.

I think that neighborhood is tired of y'all zooming down its roads so they istalled speed bumps.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: lunatic1 on October 23, 2016, 02:13:45 PM
I have no problem with landing gear up or no gear deadstick no gear-or gear up so can stop sooner so I don't get vulched
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: icepac on October 23, 2016, 10:56:40 PM
Maybe you have to be gear up so your belly can contact the power ups lining the runway.
Title: Re: Gear up landing
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 25, 2016, 06:58:17 AM
Those were the days when you could ditch going 450  :D