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Title: Carrier Deck
Post by: ONTOS on October 20, 2016, 03:25:19 PM
I wish the carrier deck was wood like the CV's of WWII. I do think some of the British CV's deck's were metal, but the carriers as in AH III appear to be U.S. Thank you.
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: Becinhu on October 20, 2016, 05:58:59 PM
Have you weighed the cv deck to verify? If it weighs the same as a duck then it is made of wood and therefore?.....


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Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: caldera on October 20, 2016, 06:41:00 PM
+1 

Post-war field mods are typically not allowed.
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 20, 2016, 06:55:33 PM
If it's a US CV in the game then it should have a wooden deck. 
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: ONTOS on October 20, 2016, 07:15:45 PM
Also, metal decks were slippery when wet, harder to repair after being bombed and they got hot.
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 20, 2016, 07:26:05 PM
Also, metal decks were slippery when wet, harder to repair after being bombed and they got hot.

Metal decks were much better than wooden decks, some of the US CVs sunk probably wouldn't have been if the decks weren't wooden.
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: Devil 505 on October 20, 2016, 08:52:51 PM
Have you weighed the cv deck to verify? If it weighs the same as a duck then it is made of wood and therefore?.....
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Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: ONTOS on October 21, 2016, 08:19:12 AM
Why would they probably not have sunk if they had metal decks.  You said "probably not have sunk", you don't know for sure. Besides, wood decks were what they had. (If they had metal decks, they would not be corrugated).
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: Greebo on October 21, 2016, 09:47:43 AM
The AH carrier is late variant Essex class which in RL had a wooden deck that was generally painted grey to make it less visible from the air. With AH's "xxx bombs and its sunk" ship damage model its kind of irrelevant anyway.

The WW2 British fleet carriers had about 4 inches of deck armour, designed to stop a bomb of up to about 500 lbs if dropped from a jabo or dive bomber. This proved effective against Kamikaze attacks where usually the crew would recover the dead and wounded, sweep the debris off the deck, fill the dent with concrete and the carrier would be operational by the next day. Wooden deck carriers would usually need a trip back to a dockyard to repair the damage and be out of action for months.

Set against that the deck armour was heavy and this restricted the air group to 3 or 4 dozen aircraft. So with a smaller CAP a British carrier would be more likely to get hit by the Kamikaze in the first place. British carriers were designed to operate in the Med, often within range of land-based air so the armoured decks made sense there. The larger air groups of the US carriers made more sense in the Pacific theater. Both navies were well aware of the benefits to the other approach and a US-UK carrier swap was even considered at one point.


Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: hitech on October 21, 2016, 10:10:14 AM
When you guys are asking for a wooden deck are you speaking visually or damage wise?

If visually, it all ready is wood.

HiTech
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: bangsbox on October 21, 2016, 12:02:15 PM
Have you weighed the cv deck to verify? If it weighs the same as a duck then it is made of wood and therefore?.....


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Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: Becinhu on October 21, 2016, 01:16:54 PM
it's a witch!
BURN HER!!!


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Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: ONTOS on October 21, 2016, 06:59:47 PM
Visual. It looks corrugated and blue.
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: Copprhed on October 22, 2016, 10:16:17 AM
Have you weighed the cv deck to verify? If it weighs the same as a duck then it is made of wood and therefore?.....


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A WITCH!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: lunatic1 on October 23, 2016, 02:28:56 PM
in a cartoon game what difference does it really make--if they paint the deck brown will that help---1000lb bombs  8" gun fire still kill it.
the only time you see the deck is take offs and landings if you lucky-or a weirdo sitting in the control room just staring at it... HTc has far more real concerns to deal with than a wooden deck. don't burn me-just my opinion.

plus I like the way it is now.
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: hitech on October 24, 2016, 09:36:42 AM
Visual. It looks corrugated and blue.
Maybe a little like this, I.E. the real thing?

(http://historylink101.com/ww2_navy/org/aircarr/USSEnterprise/images/413.jpg)

HiTech
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: ONTOS on October 24, 2016, 11:15:24 AM
Ok, the picture shows blue wood. I have videos of CV's in WW II action. The ones in color show brown wood (or some shade of brown) , but none show a ripple or corrugated deck.
 Your the boss , so I yield.

  So, I need to explain away my suckage. Nice insult.
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: lunatic1 on October 24, 2016, 01:17:08 PM
I can understand why the deck would be blue--camoflague-make it same color as water-maybe the ships captain ordered it painted blue
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: ONTOS on October 24, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
Lunatic, your reasoning is sound.
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: Becinhu on October 24, 2016, 03:10:21 PM
They painted it blue and tried to hide the cv at the edge of the map...oh wait I thought we were in game


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Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: Lusche on October 24, 2016, 03:21:27 PM
  So, I need to explain away my suckage. Nice insult.


You have heard of the concepts of "signature lines" and "quotes" ?  :old:
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: ONTOS on October 24, 2016, 03:37:55 PM
After closer viewing, squinting my eye,
 the deck does not look rippled or corrugated, but flat. My bad. However the films I have seen do appear to be brown decks. No more wish List for me.
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 24, 2016, 07:36:30 PM
Paint probably wore off due to all the planes taking off and landing and other usage.  Also, in the B&W photos, the decks do look wooden though most likely painted blue but some decks weren't on the other hand.

(http://historylink101.com/ww2_navy/org/aircarr/PlanesonAircraftCarrierDeck/images/2617.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7e/d0/18/7ed0188b7689b00402725e0e85250ae3.jpg)

(http://www.historylink101.com/ww2_navy/org/aircarr/PlanesonAircraftCarrierDeck/images/2613.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1kKklefHZ50/VLabpMhdtDI/AAAAAAABOLo/m9EjRYFE38s/s1600/Rare%2BColor%2BPhotographs%2Bfrom%2BWorld%2BWar%2BII%2B(25).jpg)
Title: Re: Carrier Deck
Post by: bustr on October 25, 2016, 03:46:40 PM
The Hellcat cat picture looks like the deck has a faded NAVY grey. Seems there was a lot of variation. Still, blue is a valid choice along with bare wood, weathered from grey or blue to wood and so forth.