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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: DubiousKB on October 27, 2016, 10:50:45 AM
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Hello all, i recently got my father into this game (hook, line, and sinker addicted), and he loves it! My mother not so much as the old guy enjoys yelling at the computer. :devil
Here's the problem, he's been experiencing a fatal error/crash during his AH3 gameplay. I have experienced it from his command seat so can confirm it's not just his's lack of computer knowledge.
The computer completely locks up solid with an odd white screen; only way to gain control of computer again is a hard power cycle. Not good. I will be traveling out as the computer technician this weekend to work on the issue.
I was curious to know what kinds of information I need to be providing here? :salute
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Friday Evening I will be able to get access to his computer and all relevant details. He is using a USB headset and mic, I will take out a 3.5mm headset to remove the USB as a potential issue.
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DXDiag output including the sound devices is a good start. The exact model of the video card, too, since DxDiag only tells the family. The brand and model of the power supply. With all that it will be much easier to help you.
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How do i obtain the DXDIAG output?
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Open run,then type Dxdiag copy first 1/3 from top or so and attach it.
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Open run,then type Dxdiag copy first 1/3 from top or so and attach it.
:salute
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What Bizman/morfiend said.
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I have included the full DXdiag after OS restoration and the film from my first test run online.
DubiousKB had to clean the internals as he said some of my failures could have been due to my "gpu" overheating?
The film is from the DX11 version. Note; film is of DubiousKB testing on his account with a left handed joystick.
We will continue to test on and offline, but any obvious issues?
(Also using DubiousKB's monitor for above dxdiag and testing; only hardware difference in latest setup vs original problematic state)
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You have 3 audio devices installed. The onboard sound chip, the USB sound device, and the ATI/AMD HDMI pass-through audio driver. Disable the AMD/ATI driver if you are not expecting audio through the speakers on a television.
I also noted the DPI of the system is set to 150%. That could be a problem and may be related to the Windows 10 issues with its dynamic DPI adjustments. There have been a lot of problems with that new system in Windows 10. Microsoft is still trying to fix it.
I noted the monitor is a 4K monitor, but the video card is a 200 series AMD card. What model of the 200 series is it?
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I suspected some audio/USB issues with his unit. i'll confirm the video card model tonight when back in front of the system. (I think it's a 290)
He does not use his monitor as an audio device (keep in mind that the 4k monitor shown on DXdiag is mine as I have his system setup in my office for the testing/repair)
I will disable the ATI/AMD HDMI pass-through audio drive, and re-post a film? ( I did notice the ol' micro-freeze / stutter during vox transmission on that first run film) .. Please do not pay attention to the multiple times I auto-took off into the shed.... :salute
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Be sure to disable all the power management. Windows 10 does not recognize games as being active applications and it WILL disable the USB bus, while you are playing.
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Hope your turkey day was good sir!
Where would I disable the power management you speak of in regards to the USB bus? Device Manager?
Reading other threads has been a big help, but still need to execute the changes described above and test again. I think i've got a baseline to where I'll be taking Shriike's unit back to him. This way we have his monitor connected again to show final hardware setup.
Thanks for the suggestions, I will implement and test!
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Device Manager is the correct answer. There's a tab for power management for each and every device concerned.
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Excellent, thanks for the help... Now to make it so....
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I hope all the suggestions help but I am afraid the problem is one HTC has not been able to solve. I have had two freezes today already.
My best advice is to try to push the card hard by using the clipboard sliders in the graphic section. Try to see how far to the right you can go and still meet the FPS you want. That reduces the number of freezes at least. Not sure why.
I have experimented with the AMD audio drivers and on my system having them installed or not installed makes no difference.
Do make sure you the latest amd drivers and make sure you uninstall the old ones before installing the new ones.
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Graphics Card Manufacturer - Built by AMD
Graphics Chipset - AMD Radeon (TM) R9 200 Series
Device ID - 6811
Vendor ID - 1002
SubSystem ID - 0B04
SubSystem Vendor ID - 1002
Revision ID - 00
Bus Type - PCI Express 3.0
Current Bus Settings - PCI Express 2.0 x16
BIOS Version - 015.041.000.000
BIOS Part Number - 113-C6300500-102
BIOS Date - 2013/11/26 11:34
Memory Size - 2048 MB
Memory Type - GDDR5
Memory Clock - 1400 MHz
Core Clock - 925 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth - 179 GByte/s
2D Driver File Path - /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/Class/{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}/0000
Radeon Settings Version - 2016.0916.1515.27418
Driver Packaging Version - 16.40.2311-160916a-307259E
Provider - Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
2D Driver Version - 8.1.1.1571
Direct3D® Version - 9.14.10.01221
OpenGL® Version - 6.14.10.14008
OpenCL™ Version - 6.14.10.14008
AMD Mantle Version - 9.1.10.0146
AMD Mantle API Version - 98310
AMD Audio Driver Version - 10.0.0.0
Vulkan™ Driver Version - 1.3.0
Vulkan™ API Version - 1.0.21
Here are the details on the video card. Just got the system set back up at home base with my monitor. We are going to disable the Monitor HDMI audio driver, attempt to update the Radeon drivers, and re-test.
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GETTING THERE! :rock
I have included the DXdiag from the home setup with my monitor and with the optional HDMI audio driver for display disabled. Couldn't find any easy way to tell if Radeon drivers are up to date (no update option that I can see).
I also included the film from our 2nd test run after drivers disabled. We were very happy with the results, as FPS seemed much better than initial testing. I modify a few of the slier variables in game to see the FPS behaviour. Again, this is much better than initial runs of the game so we are getting somewhere...
Anything else standing out that I could optimize? Thanks for all the help gents! :salute
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Still shows the Acer/AMD/ATI sound driver enabled.
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Sounds like over heat.