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Title: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: LocoMoto on November 08, 2016, 05:11:50 PM
Optimize the assets the game presents. Open up and allow the community to develop.

Why so serious HT?
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: The Fugitive on November 08, 2016, 05:27:08 PM
ummmmm, What the heck are you talking about?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 08, 2016, 05:30:25 PM
I guess he doesn't know the extent of what the community already does, the community makes maps, plane skins, sounds and scenario/events.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Meatwad on November 08, 2016, 05:35:27 PM
Optimize the assets the game presents. Open up and allow the community to develop.

Why so serious HT?

Because it is his game and his decision?
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Threeup on November 08, 2016, 10:08:41 PM
It is his game, but as with most things the market decides. From what I gather from my friends who still play, numbers haven’t gone north as yet. You would have to think that they probably won’t. So if the market decides, the market doesn’t seem to have embraced the change.

There are a lot of dedicated crew who develop aspects of the whole experience, so your point is a bit invalid. But where do you want to be? Aces High is a niche game and only appeals to interested individuals. That’s it. It’s a cottage industry. An Amish quilt game.

The level of control of this BBS also astounds me. But it’s HTC’s as well, so live with it. It is always about control though. If you can live with being controlled, there is peace in the valley.

But I met some really good people pretending to be a WW2 pilot. That’s the reward. Forget about perks and points and base takes and rule 4’s. I met some really articulate, good hearted people. There’s no price on that.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Vraciu on November 08, 2016, 11:09:05 PM
Good points. ^^^^^^
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: zack1234 on November 08, 2016, 11:42:53 PM
Because it is his game and his decision?

It's my game  :old:
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Sloehand on November 09, 2016, 12:41:13 AM


But I met some really good people pretending to be a WW2 pilot. That’s the reward. Forget about perks and points and base takes and rule 4’s. I met some really articulate, good hearted people. There’s no price on that.

Well said.
It's the primary reason I keep paying $15 each month, in spite of the crap I endure playing some megalomaniac's brainstorm.  That and player run FSO and Scenarios.  Hmmm, what would they be like if HiTech decided to run those I wonder??

 :bolt:  I hear the tippy toes of the Moderator Police.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: bustr on November 09, 2016, 12:17:33 PM
Sounds like the OP wants the game engine itself player customizable. Which would probably mean being able to run regional servers for free without the $14.95. Kind of like the IL2 community that runs era specific private servers with about 70 players as the dedicated community. There is usually one or two dedicated modders who make updates and add features while asking for donations to pay for hosting the server. In 12 months AH would be dead because the OP would then be back in the forum poaching paying customers with words like "free" and concepts like constantly making changes to suit the community's wishes.   
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: lunatic1 on November 09, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
ummmmm, What the heck are you talking about?  :headscratch:

+1
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: lunatic1 on November 09, 2016, 01:58:29 PM
you have to remember this version of Aces High is still new. but I see a lot of new names I've never seen before

and theres a lot more players logging on now and the last 4 months of AH2. even people are fixin their putters so they can play here.

I doubt the other games change because of a single player or a group of players want them to, even when most of them games are free.
I will continue to pay and play AH3 for as long as I can. IT'S the best game in the world.and will get better when all the bugs are worked out.

Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: JunkyII on November 09, 2016, 03:04:37 PM
Optimize the assets the game presents. Open up and allow the community to develop.

Why so serious HT?
Got to be more specific to be taken serious.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: DaddyAce on November 09, 2016, 08:20:12 PM
I will continue to pay and play AH3 for as long as I can. IT'S the best game in the world.and will get better when all the bugs are worked out.

Agreed, at least it's the only one I find interesting enough to pay for.  Plus my sense is that Hitech and crew does a good job constantly improving and adding to the game with the resources they have.  I'd really like to see the game and community grow.  I come and go depending on what else is going on in my life at the time but keep my subscription going for periods of time when I don't play to help keep it alive.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on November 10, 2016, 12:06:32 AM
Sounds like the OP wants the game engine itself player customizable. Which would probably mean being able to run regional servers for free without the $14.95. Kind of like the IL2 community that runs era specific private servers with about 70 players as the dedicated community. There is usually one or two dedicated modders who make updates and add features while asking for donations to pay for hosting the server. In 12 months AH would be dead because the OP would then be back in the forum poaching paying customers with words like "free" and concepts like constantly making changes to suit the community's wishes.   

No I think he means "Let the comunauty develop/code aspects of the game" like DCS, Flight Simulator, ARMA,  rFactor who have dedicated 'after market' teams that provide new content not always for $.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: JimmyD3 on November 10, 2016, 08:41:10 AM
No I think he means "Let the comunauty develop/code aspects of the game" like DCS, Flight Simulator, ARMA,  rFactor who have dedicated 'after market' teams that provide new content not always for $.

Hmmm, I thought Skins and Maps fell into that category, oh yeah FSO, AvA, should I go on? or did I miss something? The Ops wasn't specific at all.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: ImADot on November 10, 2016, 08:48:45 AM
My take on the OP is that he wants more planes and variants, so wants HTC to open their model structure for people to create those new planes. There's also a chance that he thinks the flight model is not what [he thinks] it should be, and wants the ability to "correct the inaccuracies".
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: JimmyD3 on November 10, 2016, 09:20:33 AM
My take on the OP is that he wants more planes and variants, so wants HTC to open their model structure for people to create those new planes. There's also a chance that he thinks the flight model is not what [he thinks] it should be, and wants the ability to "correct the inaccuracies".

You got all that out of....

Optimize the assets the game presents. Open up and allow the community to develop.

Why so serious HT?


May need you to interpret what women are saying. :devil
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Shuffler on November 10, 2016, 12:00:49 PM
You got all that out of....

Optimize the assets the game presents. Open up and allow the community to develop.

Why so serious HT?


May need you to interpret what women are saying. :devil

Due to the OPs inability to communicate well in english..... you have folks dreaming of all sorts of things.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Traveler on November 13, 2016, 09:08:47 AM
you have to remember this version of Aces High is still new. but I see a lot of new names I've never seen before

and theres a lot more players logging on now and the last 4 months of AH2. even people are fixin their putters so they can play here.

I doubt the other games change because of a single player or a group of players want them to, even when most of them games are free.
I will continue to pay and play AH3 for as long as I can. IT'S the best game in the world.and will get better when all the bugs are worked out.

At what point was AH 1 bug free, you do remember that AH 1 was replaced with AH2 to fix all the bugs in AH1.  AH 3 will never be bug free, just as AH2 was never bug free.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: icepac on November 13, 2016, 09:23:01 AM
Jlittman knows what leaving the door open leads too.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: The Fugitive on November 13, 2016, 09:42:05 AM
At what point was AH 1 bug free, you do remember that AH 1 was replaced with AH2 to fix all the bugs in AH1.  AH 3 will never be bug free, just as AH2 was never bug free.

No, AH2 replaced AH1 due to an upgrade in the graphics engine, much like this last upgrade. ANY game/program in the world that is run long enough you will find bugs and issues in. As AH has been around over a dozen years ..... and very few other games come any where near that yes you will find bugs. BUT, HTC has always worked very hard to fix issues that crop up in the game, not so much other companies.

No software is or ever will be bug free.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Traveler on November 13, 2016, 10:00:21 AM

No software is or ever will be bug free.

Depends on the application.  I've never seen an auto-land system that was properly managed, fail.  I've seen many automated systems that were not managed properly fail due to human error.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: The Fugitive on November 13, 2016, 10:49:57 AM
Depends on the application.  I've never seen an auto-land system that was properly managed, fail.  I've seen many automated systems that were not managed properly fail due to human error.

And why would it need to be properly managed if it didn't have bugs/issues?

It doesn't depend on the application, it depends on how well it is maintained. HTC is ALWAYS working on theirs.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: mbailey on November 13, 2016, 01:23:24 PM
It is his game, but as with most things the market decides. From what I gather from my friends who still play, numbers haven’t gone north as yet. You would have to think that they probably won’t. So if the market decides, the market doesn’t seem to have embraced the change.

There are a lot of dedicated crew who develop aspects of the whole experience, so your point is a bit invalid. But where do you want to be? Aces High is a niche game and only appeals to interested individuals. That’s it. It’s a cottage industry. An Amish quilt game.

The level of control of this BBS also astounds me. But it’s HTC’s as well, so live with it. It is always about control though. If you can live with being controlled, there is peace in the valley.

But I met some really good people pretending to be a WW2 pilot. That’s the reward. Forget about perks and points and base takes and rule 4’s. I met some really articulate, good hearted people. There’s no price on that.

Where the heck have you been? Hope you well sir  :aok
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Traveler on November 13, 2016, 02:23:59 PM
And why would it need to be properly managed if it didn't have bugs/issues?

It doesn't depend on the application, it depends on how well it is maintained. HTC is ALWAYS working on theirs.

Software is totally dependon the application, you need the right software for the job you are automating, right, I've maintained hardware, but never software, as far as software being properly managed, well, there was an airshow a ways back at which Airfrance was showing off an A320 with the autoland system, the pilots failed to properly manage the system , which as I remember flew them into the ground on a botched go-round command.  Human-Error, not a programming error. 
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Shuffler on November 13, 2016, 06:40:19 PM
Software is totally dependon the application, you need the right software for the job you are automating, right, I've maintained hardware, but never software, as far as software being properly managed, well, there was an airshow a ways back at which Airfrance was showing off an A320 with the autoland system, the pilots failed to properly manage the system , which as I remember flew them into the ground on a botched go-round command.  Human-Error, not a programming error.

That is a bug in the software if it lets you set it to crash.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: The Fugitive on November 13, 2016, 06:41:45 PM
That is a bug in the software if it lets you set it to crash.

 :aok
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Traveler on November 13, 2016, 09:56:30 PM
That is a bug in the software if it lets you set it to crash.
No, the pilots failed to follow training and procedure and caused the crash because they attempted to try to use the Auto Land function for somethng that it was not designed to do.  Human error.  The software worked as designed.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: icepac on November 13, 2016, 11:32:17 PM
So the feature that allowed the plane to crash remains to this day?

Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Traveler on November 14, 2016, 07:03:02 AM
So the feature that allowed the plane to crash remains to this day?
On just about every commercial airline. If you take off from an airport that is at sea level instruct the auto-pilot to return to the runway and fly over that runway at fifty feet and fail to tell it to climb to a higher altitud, that air craft will hold that altitud , no matter what. Which is what Airfrance did, pilot error, 
 At the time either pilot could have added thrust and hand flown the aircraft out of the danger. What was heard on the cockpit voive recorder was the sound of someone typing in commands to the auto- pilot.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: hitech on November 14, 2016, 02:14:10 PM
Traveler, you switched terms

" I've never seen an auto-land system that was properly managed, fail."

Fail, is not the same concept as bug.

HiTech
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Traveler on November 14, 2016, 02:33:51 PM
Traveler, you switched terms

" I've never seen an auto-land system that was properly managed, fail."

Fail, is not the same concept as bug.

HiTech

to me a bug in the software is the same as a failure,  it's not performing as designed.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: dmdchief on November 14, 2016, 08:35:02 PM
WHY is it that folks can't just come in and play and enjoy the game with their friends anymore?  Always looking for something wrong, this ain't supposed to be the real world.

SALUTE
ab8aac
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Someguy63 on November 14, 2016, 08:59:54 PM
WHY is it that folks can't just come in and play and enjoy the game with their friends anymore?  Always looking for something wrong, this ain't supposed to be the real world.

SALUTE
ab8aac

It's like this all over the Internet, it probably won't change.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Oldman731 on November 14, 2016, 09:14:11 PM
It's like this all over the Internet, it probably won't change.


That's them.  No reason why it has to be us.

This is a special bunch of people.

- oldman
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: lunatic1 on November 16, 2016, 02:38:54 PM
why in the world would you want to autoland-part of the fun is manual landing.

they didna have auto landing in WWII.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: scott66 on November 16, 2016, 03:54:35 PM

That's them.  No reason why it has to be us.

This is a special bunch of people.

- oldman
agreed.. We are all short bus, Helmut wearing window licking special
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Shuffler on November 16, 2016, 04:16:03 PM
i TAWT AH TAW A PUDDY KAT
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: -ammo- on November 16, 2016, 05:09:42 PM
No I think he means "Let the comunauty develop/code aspects of the game" like DCS, Flight Simulator, ARMA,  rFactor who have dedicated 'after market' teams that provide new content not always for $.


Maybe if the OP would state in plain words what she means/wants we wouldn't have to guess.
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: EskimoJoe on November 16, 2016, 07:08:15 PM
This is a special bunch of people.

You sure got that right  :D
Title: Re: If the game is going to take this kind of a turn...
Post by: Threeup on November 16, 2016, 07:36:58 PM
Where the heck have you been? Hope you well sir  :aok

I know it’s a thread hi-jack but I don’t care. Matt, you were exactly the sort of person I was thinking about when I wrote this. It’s been a pleasure to meet shoot and get shot down by you. I trust all is well.

I had a health scare and thought it wise to lose about 40 pounds and exercise like a mad man and surf like a 17 year old again in order to live a little longer. I’m still here so it must be working.

I keep in contact with the other Prawns, but leaving has put lots of things into perspective. The most worrying is the stifling of dissent. This BBS is known as North Korea and not without reason. My point was the whole deal is owned and entering it means playing by the owners rules. That’s fine even after a few Rule 4’s.

Wherever you travel, virtual or real, there are always those that take it upon themselves to police the rest.  You can’t mention Starfox (aka Skyyr) or Cybro without some sycophant peddling it up the line and alerting the powers that edit. This BBS is awash with them .

So I’ll re-sup after Christmas and have a play. By the way, anyone that thinks they are essential or bigger than the game or its moral police had best put the cap back on the glue and stop inhaling so hard.

Stay chilled.