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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Easyscor on November 25, 2016, 02:52:46 PM
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I expected better deals on the low end of the 1070 model. It didn't work out that way, but the upper range dropped considerable (in the 1070 model).
The EVGA site has a nice comparison table for each of their lines. This is the 1070:
http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6276-KR
The EVGA site sale price on an 08G-P4-6276-KR is $460xx but on Amazon, the same card is/was $409xx until Saturday. This compared to 407xx for the one Amazon is pushing (compared to 399xx on EVGA). iirc, the 6276 was $470+ a few weeks ago.
There are probably better deals on the web if you know reliable dealers. The point is, if you're in the market, check out the specs before you click on a 'more affordable' card and compare it with the price on a 'better' one. For $2 more, I picked a much better card.
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What do you personally look for in the GPU specs? How do you determine the difference between a high end 1070 and a low end 1070? I've been looking mostly at the clock speeds.
Thanks for posting, I'm still fighting myself to wait for cyber monday.
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What do you personally look for in the GPU specs? How do you determine the difference between a high end 1070 and a low end 1070?
Thanks for posting, I'm still fighting myself to wait for cyber monday.
I've been burned before, so the first things I look at are the clock speeds. Then I look at things like dual bios and in the case of these new cards, a back plate because these are big cards. Also, you want to have some idea which fan group has less noise. I don't over clock but some of these cards are factory over clocked.
Normally the price ranges would push me toward a slower card with no backplate or dual bios.
Oh, and I was hoping to see more competition for the other manufactures but alas, no.
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I see. I was a little disappointed in the lack of competition myself, but I'm hoping that Cyber Monday will have some great deals. I'm one piece of information away (regarding logistics and getting these parts consolidated while I'm away from home) from pulling the trigger on my shopping cart right now and picking up my whole list for a roughly 100 dollar discounted price, or waiting for Cyber Monday to see if I can get the same/better parts for cheaper.
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The 10xx series is brand new, so prices will not fluctuate much. EVGA's are probably on sale because they blow up.
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The 10xx series is brand new, so prices will not fluctuate much. EVGA's are probably on sale because they blow up.
Yikes. I hope their 3 year warranty is worth more then the pixels it's printed on.
Maybe you could point us at better choices in the same price range?
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I'm happy with my Gigabyte 1060.
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1 of the items that I would suggest to look for when shopping for any make of graphics card is whether active cooling is provided on the power regulation\mosfets as well as the GPU\mem modules (HSF\liquid cooling loop making actual contact on them to provide max cooling...not just air being blown over them).
This is the major reason why the EVGA series of 1070\1080 below the Classified line are failing....the onboard power regulation\mosfets do not have active cooling applied directly on them to keep them from reaching overheat\meltdown conditions when the GPU's go into boost clocks\OC'd.
EVGA is in the process of correcting this.
FYI.......................... ....
:salute
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I guess to add on to Pudgie's point I paid a bit more for a 2 fan version of the GTX 1060....Gigagbyte also highlights their use of copper "heat pipes" to aid cooling.....sounds good anyways, I think the dual fans at least have to help.
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On top of my priority list would be cooling and stability i.e. backplate. As shown in the EVGA link, the clock rates are within 7% or so, which doesn't show much in performance. Getting from 58 to 60 fps doesn't improve gameplay, getting from 28 to 30 fps tells that your system is too weak to start with.
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I see. I was a little disappointed in the lack of competition myself, but I'm hoping that Cyber Monday will have some great deals. I'm one piece of information away (regarding logistics and getting these parts consolidated while I'm away from home) from pulling the trigger on my shopping cart right now and picking up my whole list for a roughly 100 dollar discounted price, or waiting for Cyber Monday to see if I can get the same/better parts for cheaper.
I bought all the parts for my new computer last year on Black Friday. By Cyber Monday prices were on the rise again.
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I bought all the parts for my new computer last year on Black Friday. By Cyber Monday prices were on the rise again.
I'd figured it would happen, but I was waiting on a mailing address for a person stateside that will be holding my parts until I get my own address. If anything, I'll try to take advantage of some deals while I can. Building a PC is something that I've always wanted to do, and if I have to pay the full 15-1700 then I suppose it's worth it to me.
I'm still holding on to a little hope of seeing some steals, but if anything my steal will have been getting home alive :D
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Yikes. I hope their 3 year warranty is worth more then the pixels it's printed on.
Maybe you could point us at better choices in the same price range?
I've had good luck with Gigabyte. Basically any brand but EVGA at the current moment. They are trying to fix the issue but people ordering their new cards are still having issues with cards catching on fire.
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..... my steal will have been getting home alive :D
I'm pulling for you on this one Joe! :salute
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I'm pulling for you on this one Joe! :salute
Thanks! We're so close to home right now I can almost smell the people of walmart :D
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I've had good luck with Gigabyte. Basically any brand but EVGA at the current moment. They are trying to fix the issue but people ordering their new cards are still having issues with cards catching on fire.
Thanks for the reply.
Now you're scaring me. I haven't seen anything on fires!
I would have gone with Gigabyte (the EVGA card is on it's way) but the comparable card was another $50xx and I scratched the other four manufactures from my list for personal reasons before I started.
I will add that Gigabyte (I do like their products) makes a shopper jump through hoops to compare their video cards to other vendors, and even within their own lines of cards it's click, click, click....
I guess it's time to google EVGA fires. :O
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Okay, there is a risk factor, and potential RMA involved. The card I have ordered is on the list of shipping cards with revised BIOS as of 11/01/2016. A forum user on another site claims EVGA is adding the thermal pads to new shipments but that isn't what the EVGA site says. They offer to cross RMA if you want the thermal pads so If I don't see them, I'll insist on a replacement card.
Here's the link to the companies explanation as well as the offered fixes:
http://www.evga.com/thermalmod/
This issue may explain why EVGA is the only mfg offering discounts. You can bet I'll be registering this card for the warranty.
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Based on this youtube video, I'm much relieved and happier with my purchase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpxQaSjQclo
If you don't want to watch the whole 26 minutes, it looks like a bad batch of CAPs or a quality control issue with 0.02% of cards.
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Good deal Easyscor, sounds like it'll work well for you and you got a bargain! :cheers:
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Based on this youtube video, I'm much relieved and happier with my purchase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpxQaSjQclo
If you don't want to watch the whole 26 minutes, it looks like a bad batch of CAPs or a quality control issue with 0.02% of cards.
It is good to hear they finally fixed it. For a while there they were honoring free thermal pads but not actually admitting that there was a problem with their cards. I personally know of one person who's 1080 fried his entire computer and EVGA said their card was not at fault and there was no proof the card did that to the whole tower.
I like EVGA as a company, but they really screwed the pooch this time.
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Yeah, there are some companies I'll avoid like the plague. I can only imagine your friend was one of the early adapters and paid the price for being on the bleeding edge of tech. Been there myself, lesson learned.
I hope your friend was able to get compensation, at the least for his hardware.
Oh, and I'd be surprised if they ever publicly admit to the mistake. I suspect they'll do everything short of that to avoid a class action suit. Not the way I'd chose to go but I'm a cynic when it comes to most modern corporations. HTC is one of the good guys!
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UPDATE December 1, 2016 ~~ The card arrived a few hours ago now.
It turns out that the EVGA gtx 1070 08G-P4-6276-KR cards offered by Amazon at $409 must have been cards from before 1 November. Before I opened the box, I found the serial number and checked against the EVGA site. That saved me completely opening the box and finding out that the pads were missing. That's the bad news.
I doubted that an RMA through Amazon was going to accomplish the Post Nov. 1st factory upgrade and decided to go straight to EVGA.
From unpacking the Amazon box, finding the serial number and registering at EVGA, probably took half an hour to 1 hour.
The good news is that once I registered, I found the techsupport 888 number and Kayvon (thankfully he spelled it because my old ears heard Kalan) was able to help me through the process. Yeah, I've seen the videos of doing the upgrade, and it'd make sense if I already had the card for half a year, but for a new card still in an unopened box, nada. I hate it, but I'd rather run the cross RMA route.
For anyone wondering how this supposedly works: I'm step One of Three now. I have an EVGA Advanced RMA number and I'm waiting for the "Approval." Apparently (Step 2?) they verify my purchase invoice and then ask for my credit card number in case I fail to return the card I received. Sounds reasonable to me. Then they send a new card. Kayvon guessed delivery might take another 3 to 5 days before I have the replacement card. I expect to swap the cards (retail boxes) and return this one in the box the new one comes in.
Wish me luck. I'll keep you posted.
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:aok Good Luck Easyscor!
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Hey! I'm an optimist. But check that card in your new box if it's EVGA 10 series. Look for the pads.
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UPDATE December 1, 2016 ~~ The card arrived a few hours ago now.
It turns out that the EVGA gtx 1070 08G-P4-6276-KR cards offered by Amazon at $409 must have been cards from before 1 November. Before I opened the box, I found the serial number and checked against the EVGA site. That saved me completely opening the box and finding out that the pads were missing. That's the bad news.
I doubted that an RMA through Amazon was going to accomplish the Post Nov. 1st factory upgrade and decided to go straight to EVGA.
From unpacking the Amazon box, finding the serial number and registering at EVGA, probably took half an hour to 1 hour.
The good news is that once I registered, I found the techsupport 888 number and Kayvon (thankfully he spelled it because my old ears heard Kalan) was able to help me through the process. Yeah, I've seen the videos of doing the upgrade, and it'd make sense if I already had the card for half a year, but for a new card still in an unopened box, nada. I hate it, but I'd rather run the cross RMA route.
For anyone wondering how this supposedly works: I'm step One of Three now. I have an EVGA Advanced RMA number and I'm waiting for the "Approval." Apparently (Step 2?) they verify my purchase invoice and then ask for my credit card number in case I fail to return the card I received. Sounds reasonable to me. Then they send a new card. Kayvon guessed delivery might take another 3 to 5 days before I have the replacement card. I expect to swap the cards (retail boxes) and return this one in the box the new one comes in.
Wish me luck. I'll keep you posted.
I think you made a wise choice!
:aok
:salute
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Brand new 1060 PNY model in my rig. I love it.
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All has gone well for the cross RMA on my 1070 08G-P4-6276-KR purchase.
I'm adding EVGA to my list of favorite vendors.
The card is silent as death. A huge improvement over my old AMD 6850 and only once was I able to force the frame rates down to 49 with everything at max, including the Environment. Amazon isn't listing it any more but New Egg shows it.
The only problem is that I still suck at playing the game lol.