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Title: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Randy1 on December 06, 2016, 07:52:23 AM
I realized last night I never look at the hanger tab "Attack".

Since we have these tabs HTC could hopefully could make it so if you selected as an example, a P-38L from the Fighter tab, it would score Fighter.   If you selected the P-38L from the Attack list it would score as Attack.

Maybe too this would be that you could only get ords in the Attack list and if ords were down the Attack tab would be grayed out along with the bomber tab instead of the annoying set of pop ups.

Maybe too, the Fighter, Attack, Bomber and Vehicle tabs could become your favorites to be populated from the All list.
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Scca on December 06, 2016, 02:17:13 PM
If it can be individually configured, fine.  All those extra tabs confuse us old men.  I am fine with the button....  Simple, easy...
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Randy1 on December 06, 2016, 02:49:24 PM
If it can be individually configured, fine.  All those extra tabs confuse us old men.  I am fine with the button....  Simple, easy...

That is the idea to have your own Attack, Fighter, Bomber and vehicle tab filled with your own favorites.  The Tabs would be empty till you populated from the All tab.  My Favorite tab now is quite long.  Having my own Attack, Fighter, Bomber and vehicle tabs would help sort these out.  As an example I might have a P-38L in my Fighter tab and a P-38L in my Attack Tab.

So i am not saying more tabs just making better use of the ones we have.
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Scca on December 06, 2016, 04:22:04 PM
That is the idea to have your own Attack, Fighter, Bomber and vehicle tab filled with your own favorites.  The Tabs would be empty till you populated from the All tab.  My Favorite tab now is quite long.  Having my own Attack, Fighter, Bomber and vehicle tabs would help sort these out.  As an example I might have a P-38L in my Fighter tab and a P-38L in my Attack Tab.

So i am not saying more tabs just making better use of the ones we have.
Seems we are talking about the same thing :)
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Randy1 on December 06, 2016, 04:23:09 PM
Seems we are talking about the same thing :)

I think so.  :salute
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: lunatic1 on December 07, 2016, 10:33:17 AM
 :(  really? didna know it was so hard to select fighter/attack when you want to fight planes or bomb gv's. if I read this right, you want a separate list of planes, 1 fighter only and 1 for attack only-whats next 1 for light bomber and 1 for heavy bomber--a list for perk tanks and 1 for unperked tanks.
or a extra favorites list for to list attack planes only...
if htc was to grant you one wish-and you know it would be granted-this is what you would wish for?
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Randy1 on December 07, 2016, 03:39:41 PM
:(  really? didna know it was so hard to select fighter/attack when you want to fight planes or bomb gv's. if I read this right, you want a separate list of planes, 1 fighter only and 1 for attack only-whats next 1 for light bomber and 1 for heavy bomber--a list for perk tanks and 1 for unperked tanks.
or a extra favorites list for to list attack planes only...
if htc was to grant you one wish-and you know it would be granted-this is what you would wish for?

Not asking for new tabs just make the tabs we have more useful and making our Favorite list a little more controllable..  Makes sense to me anyway.

Keep in mind the wish list is not a demand for change but suggestions to enhance the game.  If HTC never implanted this wish in any form or fashion, it would not stick in my craw.

With AH3, a number of wishes in part or in whole have been incorporated.  I am sure HTC reads them.  Some they may like some not. 
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Scca on December 08, 2016, 02:27:58 PM
I get what he means. 

Think of a tab you could add aircraft to.  You would be able to configure the loadout, convergence maybe, fuel etc and save that configuration in that tab.  In another tab you could have the same A/C with an entirely different load out.  You might label one tab "attack" the other "fighter".  This way you if you were a fan of the P-38, you wouldn't have to reconfigure it for each flight when your mission changes. 

Randy, is this what you're talking about?
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: JunkyII on December 08, 2016, 02:30:51 PM
If a plane has ords on it it should be scored as attack...you can rocket vulch and get scored as Fighter.
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Randy1 on December 09, 2016, 07:19:37 AM
I get what he means. 

Think of a tab you could add aircraft to.  You would be able to configure the loadout, convergence maybe, fuel etc and save that configuration in that tab.  In another tab you could have the same A/C with an entirely different load out.  You might label one tab "attack" the other "fighter".  This way you if you were a fan of the P-38, you wouldn't have to reconfigure it for each flight when your mission changes. 

Randy, is this what you're talking about?

Pretty much. You carried it a bit further than I envisioned.  Interesting thoughts. 

I had suggested using the tabs that are there now but let them be populated by the player.  As an example,  my Attack tab might have just have three planes in the list like a P-38L, P-47D40 and an F4U1D.  All these would have some form of bombs and rocket configuration.  My Fighter Tab might also have a P-38L and other fighters but it would have no ords and a different fuel load.  The Vehicle tab might just have a Panther and a M4 just as an example.  You could still select from the All tab if you want.

Bottom line the tabs like Attack are under utilized since they nearly duplicate the Fighter tab.  Second, if you take advantage of all the play options in AH3, your Favorite list might be quite long.
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: guncrasher on December 09, 2016, 09:26:07 AM
I have all the planes I fly regularly under "favorite" tab. I hardly ever go into the other tabs,  how would you score those?

semp
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Chalenge on December 09, 2016, 09:30:18 AM
I get what he means. 

Think of a tab you could add aircraft to.  You would be able to configure the loadout, convergence maybe, fuel etc and save that configuration in that tab.  In another tab you could have the same A/C with an entirely different load out.  You might label one tab "attack" the other "fighter".  This way you if you were a fan of the P-38, you wouldn't have to reconfigure it for each flight when your mission changes. 

Randy, is this what you're talking about?

This is already the way it works, since once you finish a sortie the aircraft stays like it is configured (until you change it). If you change it, then you know the role you are taking on and can then choose from fighter or attack. I fell into the same trap as you are now, by trying to force the game to change and make up for my mistakes. If this gets put into place you will just ask for more changes for whatever problem you run into next time, yet here we have a system that works if only you adjust to it.
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Scca on December 09, 2016, 10:04:18 AM
This is already the way it works, since once you finish a sortie the aircraft stays like it is configured (until you change it). If you change it, then you know the role you are taking on and can then choose from fighter or attack. I fell into the same trap as you are now, by trying to force the game to change and make up for my mistakes. If this gets put into place you will just ask for more changes for whatever problem you run into next time, yet here we have a system that works if only you adjust to it.
Um, no it doesn't work like I said. It does work like you said though
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Chalenge on December 09, 2016, 10:09:57 AM
So learn to use it.
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Randy1 on December 09, 2016, 10:33:39 AM
I have all the planes I fly regularly under "favorite" tab. I hardly ever go into the other tabs,  how would you score those?

semp

Semp that is one reason for the wish.  Nobody uses all the tabs.  The other tabs would be your favorites but if the Favorites tab remained I would guess what ever put there would be still be configured as you want.
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Scca on December 09, 2016, 12:04:38 PM
So learn to use it.
You do know this is the forum right?  There's no reason to be a jerk.  Clearly he knows how to use it, as do I.  If you want to be a sphincter, do it somewhere else. 
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: hitech on December 09, 2016, 12:23:25 PM
I realized last night I never look at the hanger tab "Attack".

Since we have these tabs HTC could hopefully could make it so if you selected as an example, a P-38L from the Fighter tab, it would score Fighter.   If you selected the P-38L from the Attack list it would score as Attack.

Maybe too this would be that you could only get ords in the Attack list and if ords were down the Attack tab would be grayed out along with the bomber tab instead of the annoying set of pop ups.

Maybe too, the Fighter, Attack, Bomber and Vehicle tabs could become your favorites to be populated from the All list.

Your wish would make things more confusing. I would expect a plane to be configured the same no matter what filter I had chosen it from.

I.E. why would a person assume that if he picked a plane from all vs fighter vs attack vs favorite that its load out or scoring would change from the last time they flew it?

Right now it's a simple concept ,the plane stays as it is until you change it.

HiTech
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: bustr on December 09, 2016, 03:42:28 PM
He may not realize he is pointing towards another outcome with the tabs.

Favorites could be subcategorized so that you have your favorite rides setup as fighter or attacker under sub tabs. Then under those tabs his P51D under fighter would be 6 guns, 75% fuel, while under attacker 6 guns, 75% fuel, 2-1000, 6-rockets. Then he is on the hook for his personal setups under each tab. Selecting from either tab would auto set the scoring state.

Or create two load out presets for aircraft that can be scored fighter or attacker. To which you setup your load out then direct that to a fighter or attacker bin with some way to edit it to make changes. Then when you click on that bin and hit launch your plane is auto set for it's scoring type.

Does score even matter anymore?

 
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Randy1 on December 10, 2016, 06:30:46 AM
Your wish would make things more confusing. I would expect a plane to be configured the same no matter what filter I had chosen it from.

I.E. why would a person assume that if he picked a plane from all vs fighter vs attack vs favorite that its load out or scoring would change from the last time they flew it?

Right now it's a simple concept ,the plane stays as it is until you change it.

HiTech

I see your point.  I would have thought though with the Tabs starting out empty as the Favorite does now it would be intuitively obvious.
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Tilt on December 13, 2016, 04:46:16 AM
When you configure your fighter as "attack" and bomb loads of stuff........earning perks..........

Are these fighter perks or bomber perks?

Could I earn fighter perks bombing vehicles and buildings?
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Randy1 on December 13, 2016, 08:08:57 AM
When you configure your fighter as "attack" and bomb loads of stuff........earning perks..........

Are these fighter perks or bomber perks?

Could I earn fighter perks bombing vehicles and buildings?

I never thought about the scoring of perks on Attack runs.  I have always assumed it goes to fighter perks but do not know that.  Lusche will know.
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Lusche on December 13, 2016, 09:12:08 AM
Planes that have their primary category listed as "fighter" always earn fighter perks, no matter which mode was actually chosen.
Planes that have their primary category listed as "bomber" always earn bomber perks, regardless of mode chosen.
Planes that are "attack" only (Il-2 and Ju-87) are always scoring as fighter (note that they roll from the FH).
Title: Re: Fighter Attack scoring
Post by: Randy1 on December 14, 2016, 05:17:21 AM
Thanks Lusche.