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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Karnak on July 19, 2001, 03:25:00 PM
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Here is an example:
Heres a thought how about an "OKL" for ah. We could set up a web page that is designed specifically for axis flyers in ah
Luftflotte 1 .......knights
Luftflotte 2 .......rooks
Luftflotte 3 .......bishops
We could have volunteer axis pilots serve as trainers ie a Erganzungsgruupe that help new guys (or guys like me who need some training) to develope into the next group of experten. Squads who are currently looking to add new members could go to this gruppe for recruits.
This could aid us in special events and the like.
What about the Sentais? Are the Japanese aircraft not Axis? What about the Regia Aeronautica squadrons? Are they not Axis?
This is a pet peeve of mine, but come on guys, German or Luftwaffe does not equal Axis. I even saw one guy complaining that it wasn't fair to the Axis that the Allies had the 3 most popular planes in the F4U-1C (before the perking occurred), N1K2-J Shiden-Kai and Spitfire Mk IX.
Here it is, laid out plain:
Major Axis Nations:
Germany
Japan
Italy
Major Allied Nations:
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
United Kingdom and its Commonwealth
United States of America
Got it?
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Heh, always found it amusing that the japanese found their way into the allied conspiracy. I guess that's just how deep the conspiracy runs :)
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because I dont fly zekes nik2 or anything related to it and my interest is limited to what I like........
simple as that
i dont care in an f6f blows everytime you start the eng or if a jug can out dive a rock.......
again simple as that
i dont care if a mustangs can out run me or whether a spit was the original model for the Osprey
simple as that
I dont can what happened at pearl harbor miday or at the coral sea
not interested in any of those things
ETO axis only you others care worry about the rest
:)
I will amend my previos post to include co-belligerents........
wouldn't wanna work 1 of your pet peaves.......... :)
[ 07-19-2001: Message edited by: Wotan ]
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Damn, Herr Wotan, tell us how yah REALLY feel. :)
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Wotan,
That's fine and all, but it doesn't answer my question.
You can simply say that you like German or Luftwaffe aircraft, but you insist on speaking for people who like Axis aircraft. Even the ETO has the Italians as well as the Germans.
The Axis was three nations, just because somebody like German aircraft doesn't mean that is the sum total of Axis aircraft.
I like RAF aircraft (well, most of them), but I'm not overly fond of USAAF, USN or VVS aircraft, but I don't claim that British aircraft are the sum toatal of Allied aircraft.
The conceit I am speaking of seems to only aflick some of the fans of German aircraft, but no fans of other aircraft.
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dude your as close as you get to 1 of those pc dweebs who gets their panties bunched because you think the phrases I chose may exclude someone......... :)
I don't care in they are excluded...... :)
I only speak for myself....... :)
I told you what my interest are they are not axis italy (although i think its great italian ac are included in ah and hope to see more) they are not axis japan (dont care if there 0 or all japanese ww2 ac are included)....... so whats left ? axis german
which means lw.... so if I limit my post to what I'm interested in they would be
.....eto
......axis
........germany
.........luftwaffe
see how that works...... :)
btw there was no real axis airforce each nation's airforce fought exclusively (with the exception of some combined operations with germany and italy) under the command of their respective nation. So axis may have meant something on paper but did little to help them win the war.......
edit you forgot croatia bulgaria roumania french belgian norway finland and on and on and on
I've excluded them as well each plus a bunch more which had pilots flying with "axis forces....... :)
[ 07-19-2001: Message edited by: Wotan ]
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nerds
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The weirdest thing is that the most vociferous Luftwaffles have never even seen Germany....
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Mr. Fish is the king LuftWaffle and he goes there once a year from what I understand. Something about a pilgrimage for leather lederhosen and transgender prostitutes. Not sure what that's all about?
SOB
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Originally posted by Seeker:
The weirdest thing is that the most vociferous Luftwaffles have never even seen Germany....
Dam you're right! I've never thought it that way!
It sure is weird !
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Yea, and while we are at it, how many spit dweebs have visited Britain ? ;)
Wotan, you also forgot Hungary.
[ 07-20-2001: Message edited by: Hristo ]
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I think you'll find many more nations flew the Spit than just the English, and that most that fly it in AH have lived in a country that flew them.
We won, after all :)
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It's simple.
LW owns.
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oops I flew a g2 yesterday with out visiting finland ................
oh I guess you figure 109 190 ju88 etc were only flown by germany.............
Hristo I left out several others nations who had pilots flying for the axis..........
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Originally posted by Wotan:
[QB]oops I flew a g2 yesterday with out visiting finland ................
So much is obvious, Fins rarely displayed attitudes such as :
"Pray not for an end to the slaughter...but for VICTORY!!! ";
They had more important things to think about.
"oh I guess you figure 109 190 ju88 etc were only flown by germany............."
Of course not. I would, however, wager a reasonable amount that all LW fliers were flying for Germany and had been in Germany, even in the cases they them selves were not of German extraction; which was the thrust of the original post.
And this:
"Im Auftrage der Reichsbahn (By order of the State Railway)"
Refers to the Florida state railway, I hope, and not to the German state railway's most documentated and involuntary "customers"?
I wonder if you can grasp why it is only the Finnish 109's display the appropriate markings. Probably not.
In any case, take a look here:
http://www.worldwar2pilots.com/LW-Bernard.htm (http://www.worldwar2pilots.com/LW-Bernard.htm)
For an example of a real man, who did real things, and learnt to leave teenage posturing behind.
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The railway quote refers to the the 109E pilots resentment of carrying bombs during the latter part of BoB. The bombs were sent over in crates marked "Im Auftrage der Reichsbahn" and the pilot IIRC Waldemar Wubke commented that bombs should only be carried by bombers or trains not by fighters.
I hope my clarification of the qoute has been sufficient, nonetheless Seeker what you are insinuating is really a cheap shot extremist statement that acts to attack people who choose to fly German planes. I feel foolish to say this but it really is kinda insensitive (sorry) because it assumes AH LW fliers are myabe all some sort of nazis or something. And you should perhaps consider why you wrote that or retracting that statement or editing it from your post as its really quite innapropriate.
thanks
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Originally posted by Seeker:
I think you'll find many more nations flew the Spit than just the English, and that most that fly it in AH have lived in a country that flew them.
We won, after all :)
My country flew G-10s. We lost, but we shot down some Yaks and Las before that ;)
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Plus the top Croatian ace has more kills than the top USAAF and RAF aces... :p hehe
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wtf are talking about?
Karnak started a thread stating his pet peaves related to a post I made. I responded to that thread.
Why are you here?
You are irrelevent to this thread and have nothing to offer to it.
Why waste your time.
All your other post on this bbs are all nonsense as well. What are you contributing to this game?
Quake should fit real nice with your personnality.
I spent 6 years in military bud how do you know where I've been.
Why is that relevent to a game?
You have issues bud I wonder why you bring them here?
btw
Known Pilots & Aircraft
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Pilot Aircraft Inscription
Lt Heinz Sachsenberg Fw 190D-9 'Rot 1'
Verkaaft's mei Gwand 'I foahr in himmel!
(Sell my clothes I'm going to heaven)
Hptm. Waldemar Wübke Fw190D9 'Rot 3'
Im Auftrage der Reichsbahn
(By order of the State Railway)*
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Unknown Fw 190D-11 'Rot 4'
Possibly former V58
Der nächste Herr dieselbe Dame!
(The next man the same woman!)
EDIT
Oblt Klaus Faber Fw 190D-9 'Rot 13'
W.Nr 213240
"Rein muß err" und wenn wir beide weinen!
(In he goes even though both of us will cry!)
Fw. Bodo Dirschauer Unknown
Unknown
Lt. Karl-Heinz Hofmann Unknown
Unknown
*A sarcastic comment originating when Wübke was ordered to fly Jabo missions during the Battle of Britain. The inscription was found on the sides of boxcars carrying bombs. Wübke felt bombs should be delivered by rail cars and bombers and not by fighters.
Wübke used this inscription throughout the war.
Little histroy lesson for you. While your at take a look at the real JV44 Platzschutzstaffel (they didn't fly 262s so your link as well s your post are irrelevent)guess how those pilots got there and it wasn't because there Nazis moron..........
You typical ignorant dweeb speaking out his arse...........
I'll bet you I've been out of the US more times then you've left your back yard.........
but again it goes back why you waste your time? Whats your point?
before you start on the luftwhiner deal as you will because thats all you have.... search for posts made by me find 1 whine first before you talk out your arse again.......
(http://personal.jax.bellsouth.net/jax/t/y/tyr88/rot3jv44.jpg)
[ 07-20-2001: Message edited by: Wotan ]
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The railway quote refers to the the 109E pilots resentment of carrying bombs during the latter part of BoB.
The pansies couldn't even handle a little ground pounding? I was only joking when I called them girliemen before....
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Because, Wotan, your buttons are so easy to push.
Thanks for the correction Grun. It is, after all, a question of attitude, is it not?
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Yes, it is rude and incorrect to refer to luftwhiners as "axis". The way I do it is... Nazis and nips/japs... everyone knows who you are talking about. It simplifies things greatly.... And yes.... I would say that of all the groups in AH the nazis need the most training.
lazs
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I'd often wondered about that sig Wotan. Knowing you, I refused to assume it had anything to do with the slaughter of non-combatants.. and thanks for the history lesson.
On the other side of the coin, I suppose quite a few others wondered also.. not surpising at all someone came to the wrong conclusion.
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Pray not for an end to the slaughter...but for VICTORY!!!
Has nothing to do with killing civilians........ wtf :(
I'd often wondered about that sig Wotan. Knowing you, I refused to assume it had anything to do with the slaughter of non-combatants.. and thanks for the history lesson.
On the other side of the coin, I suppose quite a few others wondered also.. not surpising at all someone came to the wrong conclusion.
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Hang
I'll have to find the exact quote but it has to do with wwi.........
Several school children in germany were asked by there pasture to pray for the soldiers at the front.........
one child said he prayed for peace...
one prayed for the ded and dying .......
another prayed for the war to end....
well the pasture asked 1 child what he prayed for..........
the child said "I pray not for an end to the slaughter but for victory........."
the theme was that once you commit to war then there is no option but victory........
else all those who sacrificed died for nothing...........
but given the small but vocal simple minds in AH i guess it oughta be expected.........
The fact remains this a game. How someone (me or anyone) chooses to play it is no real reflection on themselves as a real person..........
I don't need to justify anything to you all but keep what happens here in perspective.........
and if my sig is used to reflect upon my real person then what does this say about this moron
And this:
"Im Auftrage der Reichsbahn (By order of the State Railway)"
Refers to the Florida state railway, I hope, and not to the German state railway's most documentated and involuntary "customers"?
enough from me
S! Hangtime
[ 07-21-2001: Message edited by: Wotan ]
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LOL Woton... you need not justify a damn thing to me.. or anybody else! Smile buddy.. you just educated a whole buncha guys; including me... an intresting look into the LW mindset during the BoB.. those pilots knew what the real score was over england, and it was the first inkling a lot of LW pilots got of how messed up their high command was.
I know well the "FOR VICTORY" post.. always evokes a rueful smile from me.
The "by order of the state railway" siggy was what had me wondering. A huge number of people have seen the holocaust documentaries... that phrase is very prominent there, and it could be easy for someone to draw the wrong conclusion.
Do yer thing bud, and don't let the noises from the peanut galley bug yah..
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