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Title: Learned something that wrinkled my brain.
Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 01:50:33 PM
People are always on about how the human brain sets us apart from the rest of animalia. But did you know that a human can travel 100 miles on foot in less than 12 hours? I knew that humans were at the top when it comes to endurance, even better than the horse. But 100 miles in less that 12 hours is mind boggling! :old:
Consider this, if an ultra runner started his run from your house just as you left for work, by the time you got home from work, the runner would be 100 miles away.
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Post by: ghi on January 04, 2017, 02:41:54 PM
The Marathon record is about 2 hours for 42 km/ 26 miles, and they get pumped with glucose to recover after the race. It would take 4 Marathon length races with about 1 hour break in between to cover 100 miles in 12 hours. According with the legend even Pheidippides, the soldier from Marathon collapsed and died after the race .
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Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 03:02:33 PM
There's a reason it's called the legend of Pheidippides. Legend means fiction, remember that next time you hear someone or something referred to as "legendary".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon
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Post by: 100Coogn on January 04, 2017, 03:35:28 PM
There's a reason it's called the legend of Pheidippides. Legend means fiction, remember that next time you hear someone or something referred to as "legendary".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon
noun: legend; plural noun: legends 1. a traditional story sometimes popularly regarded as historical but unauthenticated.
Does not make it fiction.
Coogan
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Post by: Devil 505 on January 04, 2017, 03:39:57 PM
Where did you come up with this figure Floob?
Like ghi mentioned, the required pace to cover 100 miles in 12 hours is simply not attainable by most people.
The average time for finishing the 2015 Boston Marathon was 3 hours, 46 minutes. That is a pace of just under 7 miles per hour. Running non-stop for 12 hours would only cover 84 miles.
Remember that these people are running, not walking, and most are completely worn out by the finish of the marathon. Going 4 times farther is impossible.
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Post by: 8thJinx on January 04, 2017, 03:47:20 PM
I don't believe I've ever heard of a human being running a 7 minute mile for 12 straight hours.
Edit - I had to look it up. Zach Bitter did it in 2013. Crazy.
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Post by: Easyscor on January 04, 2017, 03:50:12 PM
I could believe 100 k. That's 62.12 miles, or a bit over 5 miles per hour.
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Post by: AKKuya on January 04, 2017, 04:04:49 PM
I can travel 125 miles under 12 hours on my hands "walking" backwards balancing a large bowl of marbles with my feet while in an uphill direction on a gravel road slick with muddy puddles. And, with no breaks.
Anybody beat that?
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Post by: 100Coogn on January 04, 2017, 04:05:04 PM
You would have to run constantly at 8.333 mph for 12 hours straight, to make 100 miles.
Coogan (I had to look that up too)
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Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 04:05:26 PM
Hard to believe I know. That was kind of my point and for that reason I already posted the link. Basically those guys doing 100 miles in less that 12 hours are going 8-9ish mph for 11 and half hours. Mind boggling.
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Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 04:06:32 PM
Would you like me to post the link again?
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Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 04:09:38 PM
Remember that these people are running, not walking, and most are completely worn out by the finish of the marathon. Going 4 times farther is impossible.
Not impossible. But now you're coming to grips with how amazing the human body is. It seems we are more different than the other apes physically than we are mentally.
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Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 04:16:00 PM
I don't believe I've ever heard of a human being running a 7 minute mile for 12 straight hours.
Edit - I had to look it up. Zach Bitter did it in 2013. Crazy.
I'm a backpacker, or more accurately a base camper. So I'm familiar with some of the pro backpackers who do 5,000 and 7,000 mile trips, Like Andy Skurka etc. So I learned that some of these pro backpackers are also something called ultra-runners. WTF is an ultra runner?? I looked it up and proceeded to toejam my pants as some of you're doing now.
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Post by: Devil 505 on January 04, 2017, 04:24:29 PM
Not impossible. But now you're coming to grips with how amazing the human body is. It seems we are more different than the other apes physically than we are mentally.
You need to learn to use specific language in your writing when necessary, as in this case. "A human" would be used to indicate any human picked at random is capable of this feat. What you should have said is "this human" to indicate a particular person.
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Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 04:32:59 PM
Remember homo sapiens sapiens evolved to be the best terrestrial endurance hunter. In Africa stone age tribes still hunt this way, basically they'll chase/track an antelope (you read right, a GD antelope) until it collapses from exhaustion and heat stroke. But get this, not only are humans amazing on land, turns out the human body has something called a dive reflex enabling us to dive to depths of 100 meters on a single breath of air. The body shunts blood and retards some functions to enable this. No other terrestrial animal can match homo sapiens sapiens at diving and endurance swiming, just as no other terrestrial animal is able to match us at overland travel.
And people wondered how it could be that primitive man habitated every corner of the globe before we could read or write.. Pfft.
Man vs Nature.. the road to victory.
Title: Re: Learned something that wrinkled my brain.
Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 04:40:31 PM
You need to learn to use specific language in your writing when necessary, as in this case. "A human" would be used to indicate any human picked at random is capable of this feat. What you should have said is "this human" to indicate a particular person.
No I'm uncannily astute at words and toejam. That my logical and literal syntax mislead you is not my fault. The fact is that "humans have done it" is completely equivalent to "a human can do it".
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Post by: 100Coogn on January 04, 2017, 04:42:56 PM
I have a hairy butt. I think I'm regressing.
Coogan
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Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 04:49:37 PM
Title: Re: Learned something that wrinkled my brain.
Post by: OldNitro on January 04, 2017, 04:51:36 PM
I read somewhere that Polar Bears are the best swimmers of land animals. Travel 100s of miles, their blubber insulates, and makes them float like a cork.
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Post by: 100Coogn on January 04, 2017, 04:54:17 PM
I read somewhere that Polar Bears are the best swimmers of land animals. Travel 100s of miles, their blubber insulates, and makes them float like a cork.
Yes now that you mention it I remember hearing something like this. Still, human dive reflex is pretty cool. Perhaps more importantly, just who's side are you on OldNitro? Man or bear, pick a team! ;)
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Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 05:04:41 PM
I can travel 125 miles under 12 hours on my hands "walking" backwards balancing a large bowl of marbles with my feet while in an uphill direction on a gravel road slick with muddy puddles. And, with no breaks.
Anybody beat that?
Yes. His name and title was Baron Munchausen.
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Post by: DaveBB on January 04, 2017, 05:25:12 PM
You can cruise pretty much all day long doing 10 minute miles. This goes for almost everyone that has the ability to run. So that's 6 miles an hour. 6mph x 12hrs=72miles. Not quite a hundred miles but not too far off either.
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Post by: Zimme83 on January 04, 2017, 05:33:55 PM
Everything comes at a prize, humans can tolerate heat very well due to the ability to sweat but on the other hand we will be among the first to freeze to death if temperatures drop. Most animals trades edurance for speed, its no point to run an hour if you arent fast enough to outrun the predator.
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Post by: FLOOB on January 04, 2017, 05:36:23 PM
Most animals trades edurance for speed, its no point to run an hour if you arent fast enough to outrun the predator.
Unless you are the predator.
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 04, 2017, 05:38:55 PM
I ran 20 miles in less than 4 hours in fatigues and boots carrying 60 lbs of gear. But that was when I was an immortal young whippersnapper. With running shoes and shorts + plenty of fluids and glucose pit stops along the way I might have made 100 miles in 12 hours back then.
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Post by: Randall172 on January 04, 2017, 06:05:34 PM
Remember homo sapiens sapiens evolved to be the best terrestrial endurance hunter. In Africa stone age tribes still hunt this way, basically they'll chase/track an antelope (you read right, a GD antelope) until it collapses from exhaustion and heat stroke. But get this, not only are humans amazing on land, turns out the human body has something called a dive reflex enabling us to dive to depths of 100 meters on a single breath of air. The body shunts blood and retards some functions to enable this. No other terrestrial animal can match homo sapiens sapiens at diving and endurance swiming, just as no other terrestrial animal is able to match us at overland travel.
And people wondered how it could be that primitive man habitated every corner of the globe before we could read or write.. Pfft.
Man vs Nature.. the road to victory.
not the best endurance hunter, the best endurance hunter in high temperatures.
lower the temps, and most animals will outpace us in the long run.
ie sled dogs, gazelle in lower temperatures will outpace us, horses in lower temperatures will outpace us.
the diving/endurance swimming claim is false, polar bears more than outpace us in both.
polar bears actually beat us in all the metrics you gave in non-scorching temperatures.
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Post by: NatCigg on January 04, 2017, 06:18:43 PM
Remember homo sapiens sapiens evolved to be the best terrestrial endurance hunter. In Africa stone age tribes still hunt this way, basically they'll chase/track an antelope (you read right, a GD antelope) until it collapses from exhaustion and heat stroke. But get this, not only are humans amazing on land, turns out the human body has something called a dive reflex enabling us to dive to depths of 100 meters on a single breath of air. The body shunts blood and retards some functions to enable this. No other terrestrial animal can match homo sapiens sapiens at diving and endurance swiming, just as no other terrestrial animal is able to match us at overland travel.
And people wondered how it could be that primitive man habitated every corner of the globe before we could read or write.. Pfft.
Man vs Nature.. the road to victory.
:rofl ah yes another fascinating thread. I got a earfull about this from my girlfriend the other nite so it must be on facebook. :blank: Im reminded of the mailman that said he walked around the world 6 times while at work. While our genetics do not make us perfect runners or even perfect walkers, the bipedal position and accompanying efficient movement is a valuable natural asset to find food and territory. The advanced brain and ability to work together was more valuable. how we beat out the other similar humans, neanderthal erectus and others, could be related to calorie demand. Or maybe the ability run in the african plains with big cats and dogs was the adaptive environment that created the true spider monkey. :headscratch: who was quickly able to spread around the world. :cheers:
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Post by: branch37 on January 04, 2017, 07:00:23 PM
I walked around the world 6 times in 2 days and never left Disney World.
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Post by: BuckShot on January 04, 2017, 08:06:15 PM
I remember reading somewhere that skipping is more efficient than running...
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Post by: pembquist on January 04, 2017, 08:40:36 PM
Then you also have to be fast enough to catch your prey. And most animals cannot afford to chase a prey for a day before they kill it. And again animals needs to survive in colder climate without clothes so they cannot have a bare skin that sweats.
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Post by: FLOOB on January 05, 2017, 10:45:05 AM
And that's why we win.
I can't find any polar bear 100 mile run times.
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 05, 2017, 11:54:47 PM
Heat dissipation/management is the ultimate limiting factor of all energy systems.
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Post by: Brooke on January 06, 2017, 12:20:30 AM
Humans can survive on food that would kill other animals except for rats and some insects.
Humans live in more different environments than the vast majority of other organisms, including rats and insects.
Humans ueber alles!
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Post by: Zimme83 on January 06, 2017, 02:35:33 AM
We domesticated wolves before we had any technology.
Dogs and Wolves are two different things. In some remote parts of the world, like Manchuria, Siberia, even in remote parts of Spain, wolves are still a threat. Hardly domesticated! But they say a pack of feral dogs in Detroit can be pretty nasty too.
Thinking about it. Our Technology probably started with a sharp stick, so I wonder if dogs were domesticated before that? I mean, when man first started to eat meat, we became the canines competitor for food. Back then, humans were prey for the canine species.
Interesting question!
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 06, 2017, 08:40:38 AM
The closest living relative of the dog is the gray wolf and there is no evidence of any other canine contributing to its genetic lineage. Humans domesticated wolves and over thousands of years bred them into the various races of dog we have today. Selective evolution.
Humans did not invent the sharp stick. Earlier hominids did that long before us.
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Post by: OldNitro on January 06, 2017, 08:47:59 AM
The closest living relative of the dog is the gray wolf and there is no evidence of any other canine contributing to its genetic lineage. Humans domesticated wolves and over thousands of years bred them into the various races of dog we have today. Selective evolution.
Humans did not invent the sharp stick. Earlier hominids did that long before us.
There are Canine species that predate the Grey Wolf, by eons. Also how do you explain the Australian Dingo, African wild dogs, that are different line than the Northern Wolf species.
Just like Chimps Gorillas and Orangutans are all Primates, but different species.
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 06, 2017, 09:16:25 AM
Canine is a genus in the Canidae family and contains multiple extant species, such as wolves, dogs and coyotes. The domesticated dog is genetically only related to the grey wolf. The African wild dog is a separate species on its own branch of the Canidae family tree and is not related to either the grey wolf or dog. The Dingo is descended from domesticated dogs from East and Southeast Asia, which returned to a wild lifestyle when they escaped from fishermen who were stopping to get fresh water in Australia. Both the dingo and domestic dog are classified as subspecies of the gray wolf (Canis lupus).
really fascinating stuff. In all this time, nothing more than elements and some complex molecules have come from space. Other earths would be on a similar time scale if you consider the universe is only 14 billion years old. that's under 4 earth lifes. The sun is only 4.5 billion years old, so life got started almost as soon as it had a chance. :noid
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Post by: 100Coogn on January 06, 2017, 09:28:39 AM
I thought all dogs came from wolves. They are what they are now, because of selective breeding.
Coogan
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 06, 2017, 09:34:52 AM
You thought right.
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Post by: OldNitro on January 06, 2017, 09:44:34 AM
Canine is a genus in the Canidae family and contains multiple extant species, such as wolves, dogs and coyotes. The domesticated dog is genetically only related to the grey wolf. The African wild dog is a separate species on its own branch of the Canidae family tree and is not related to either the grey wolf or dog. The Dingo is descended from domesticated dogs from East and Southeast Asia, which returned to a wild lifestyle when they escaped from fishermen who were stopping to get fresh water in Australia. Both the dingo and domestic dog are classified as subspecies of the gray wolf (Canis lupus).
Ah cool, never seen it mapped out like that before.
OK, accepting that, and that the Sharp stick was used as a tool, by the Hominid ancestors of Humans. Who were at that time a prey animal of canine species, and the big cats. We come back to the question, did our human ancestors have technology, (ie tools and weapons), before our human ancestors domesticated the dog?
Somehow, our human ancestors had to go from menu item, to master. My thinking says our tools and weapons allowed that to happen.
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 06, 2017, 09:53:12 AM
It depends. Personally I don't think we or our immediate ancestors were ever prey species'. Of course we were preyed upon by other predators, we still are if we're not careful in the wild. However, I think we were always predators ourselves, unless we go so far back in time that we were nothing like what we are now. I don't think any upright-walking primate were ever a prey species.
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 06, 2017, 10:05:57 AM
Even though we've sort of domesticated everything we need some of us are still predators...
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Post by: OldNitro on January 06, 2017, 10:08:34 AM
It's known that the Hominids started as gatherers, seed eating herbivores, and were a prey species just like any other. Standing monkey must have been a tasty treat to a pack of wild African dogs. Then hominids developed into carrion eaters, increasing the level of protein and fat, which contributed to brain growth. Eventually hominids evolved into predators. putting them in direct competition with other predators for food sources.
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 06, 2017, 10:16:52 AM
You'd have to go several million years back for that. I mean our ancestors had stone tools more than 3 million years ago. No one knows how long we've had sharp sticks and clubs.
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Post by: OldNitro on January 06, 2017, 10:33:41 AM
So, which came first, domestication of the dog, or the use of tools, (technology)??? I'm guessing, that without the tools, the dogs/cats/birds would would have kept eating them. The instinctive fear animals have for humans as predators, would never have been generated.
But it is an interesting and open question! :salute
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 06, 2017, 10:43:14 AM
No. Modern humans domesticated wolves tens of thousand years ago, not millions. Humans have always had tools and weapons. The notion that humans once ran around naked and defenseless is just wrong. Prehistoric apes may have been prey, but not us.
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Post by: OldNitro on January 06, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
Alright, so dogs were domesticated, tens of thousands of years ago, placing it in the Modern man category on the chart. But tools/weapons were being used millions of years before that, from the Australopithecus period. According to the chart.
OK then, I guess that the use of Technology, preceded the domestication of the dog.
(unless some new fossil or archeological evidence changes everything again)
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Post by: FLOOB on January 06, 2017, 11:30:08 AM
For a long time I didn't know that coyotes are a breed of wolf/dog. Coyotes, wolves, dogs can all breed with each other producing sexually viable offspring. Makes them all the same thing in my book.
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 06, 2017, 11:40:27 AM
Of course... its been well established that even Dinosaurs had technology (depending on ur definition) Example, they had nests... ie technology :devil Oh and btw... if one has ever seen a CT or MRI of the human brain... it is wrinkled and convoluted :cheers:
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 07, 2017, 03:56:26 PM
I was more thinking about fire, weapons and tools. :)
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Post by: FLOOB on January 07, 2017, 04:04:31 PM
Fire is probably why the human's brain grew bigger and his gut became shorter and his jaw weaker.
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Post by: Zimme83 on January 07, 2017, 04:25:46 PM
Fire is probably why the human's brain grew bigger and his gut became shorter and his jaw weaker.
Hmm I always thought it was brought about by the consumption of certain types of mushrooms.... IE eat a shroom see your god!....
Could be wrong though....
As for dogs,well the school is still out, certain people claim there are 2 distinct "types" of dog and both types have been selectively bred for purpose and for looks. The large Mollosor breeds are said to be from a different descendant than all other breeds/types. These Mollosors are large dogs,the ancient wardogs,not the roman type but before that were up to 42 inches at the whithers and weighed well over 200lbs. The Mollosian Hounds were said to take a man and horse down!
These types are certainly much different from spitz,terriers and most herding breeds. DNA testing is inconclusive as there are almost no true Mollosors breeds today,most have had influx of other types. I doubt we will ever know the real answer!
:salute
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 07, 2017, 09:06:12 PM
These types are certainly much different from spitz,terriers and most herding breeds. DNA testing is inconclusive as there are almost no true Mollosors breeds today,most have had influx of other types. I doubt we will ever know the real answer!
:salute
Well, if they could breed with other dogs, then they can't have been that much different genetically.
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Post by: morfiend on January 07, 2017, 09:16:33 PM
Well, if they could breed with other dogs, then they can't have been that much different genetically.
I suppose but then the coyote,red and grey wolves plus dogs can all breed and have pups that can propagate. You would have to look at the canine line before then one you showed started.
I'm not certain on all of this,I have read extensively about the subject and as I said there are at least 2 schools of thought on it.
I am certain that the dog came after tools/fire,we likely killed a wolf and later found the pups,and all babies are cute and instinct took over and man cared for them. The big difference between a dog and a wolf??? point... a dog will look where you point a wolf will look at you! Dogs are bilingual,wolves are not!
:salute
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 07, 2017, 09:30:12 PM
Not all dogs and not all the time in all situations. Some wolves can learn to do this as well if they are raised in a human-only environment. No surprise since that's the origin species we started breeding dogs from. Coywolfs are special since the coyote and wolf had a common ancestor and split off relatively recently, only a few thousand years ago. Same with coydogs since dogs are closely related to wolves. So your Mollosian Hound must have been bred from this close family of animals.
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Post by: morfiend on January 07, 2017, 10:45:22 PM
The speculation is they came from a bear-dog linage,now this is not my idea nor even my belief but it is what it is.
The Mollosors come in 2 distinct types also,they had a herder and a chain dog,the chain dogs were the types used in war the herders protected the flocks from predators,both man and beast. There are several modern Mollosor breeds,all the mastifs and their like came from these dogs,but the DNA has been diluted with the non-mollosor types.
Pitbulls are a modern cross of terrier and mastif and look at all the variations of just that type.
:salute
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Post by: Brooke on January 07, 2017, 11:33:13 PM
Only because of our technology. Without it, we'd still be prey for the wolves.
That's like saying, "Ants aren't so great. Take away their colony structure and see what an individual ant can do. It's can't even survive."
Humans had spears and tribes from their beginning as a species -- that's part of the human advantage. Stone-age stuff like that is all that was needed for dominance of all those environments and the animals in them, including wolves.
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Post by: FLOOB on January 08, 2017, 12:12:23 AM
We're kind of falling back on the old misconceptions. That human beings are separated from the rest of the animal kingdom by our minds, but without our brainiacal powers we are naked and weak. When in fact the human is at least as extraordinary physically as it is brainally. If you asked the most accomplished runner the question, how far can you run?, the answer he would give would be the same that we slovenly fetid giblets would give, "I don't know". We're machines among animals.
Machines.. dogs, wolves. All this talk reminds me of a song about a woman and her electric tooth brush.
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Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 08, 2017, 12:17:59 AM
And we're in constant heat... An advantage when we needed to out breed competitors.
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Post by: morfiend on January 08, 2017, 12:58:34 AM
We're kind of falling back on the old misconceptions. That human beings are separated from the rest of the animal kingdom by our minds, but without our brainiacal powers we are naked and weak. When in fact the human is at least as extraordinary physically as it is brainally. If you asked the most accomplished runner the question, how far can you run?, the answer he would give would be the same that we slovenly fetid giblets would give, "I don't know". We're machines among animals.
Machines.. dogs, wolves. All this talk reminds me of a song about a woman and her electric tooth brush.
This is only true if killing (we dont have means to kill or harvest without our brain.) and wrapping ourselves in non rotting flesh to say warm through the night was innate. If we did not take 15 years to mature. If we did not adapt fire. If we were not able to accurately predict the future. The machine is every living being that occupys a niche. Every being has a non wavering desire to work and survive in every cell and the fact that it works; works by chance, nature, and thought. That is what is amazing, life. Humans silly attempt to think they are special is the brain working overtime. There is more to the story, the spirit and energy through us all is almost as persistent if not more than lifes drive for energy. Really fascinating stuff if you consider the energy was here first and made everything.
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Post by: NatCigg on January 08, 2017, 08:45:08 AM
Under the correct situations this can be a part of perception. Why does mathematics, nature and the mind have such similarities?
:noid
Beware of the Penguins.
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Post by: Ramesis on January 08, 2017, 10:55:52 AM
Omg!!! I'm having a flashback :x
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Post by: FLOOB on January 09, 2017, 10:46:41 PM
Human after all.
Cool song, cool coupe, weird video. There used to be a better video for this song but it got removed.
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Post by: Rash on January 13, 2017, 11:00:13 PM
I have 4 dogs, two cats and beta fish. My sister has 5 dogs, 3 cats, 10 chickens, 20 cows and a pig. Who's going to arrive in Chicago first? Do the maths
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Post by: BaldEagl on January 15, 2017, 02:56:05 AM
I have 4 dogs, two cats and beta fish. My sister has 5 dogs, 3 cats, 10 chickens, 20 cows and a pig. Who's going to arrive in Chicago first? Do the maths
Not the fish. It's still in Beta. :bolt:
Coogan
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Post by: Rash on January 17, 2017, 10:25:47 PM
I like that answer!
We have a small dog we call little Hitler(he owns the couch), two medium Irish terriers ( 50 pounds each) and a 120 pound pit. The Irish can run for ever, except for injury. we have giant thorns around here next to the lake.
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Post by: FLOOB on June 28, 2017, 01:34:50 PM
Man holds breath for 22 minutes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stig_Severinsen
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Post by: Vraciu on June 28, 2017, 02:08:23 PM
Rookies. I can cover 100 miles in about ten minutes.
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Post by: zack1234 on June 28, 2017, 04:30:07 PM
Holding your breath for 20 minutes is as useful as a driverless car :old:
Driverless cars?
Still cannot figure out what the point is having a driverless car?
Its like having a television that watches itself :old:
No one seems to have a answer
Title: Re: Learned something that wrinkled my brain.
Post by: Meatwad on June 28, 2017, 06:09:40 PM
It's a mental disease already, obsessive–compulsive personality disorder (OCPD), needs treatment like alcoholism,smoking and other addictions; interesting video i just watched; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWKzVxMzvxg
Title: Re: Learned something that wrinkled my brain.
Post by: BaldEagl on June 30, 2017, 12:59:11 AM