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Title: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 04, 2017, 12:21:07 PM
I would still need a monitor, stick and headsets, but this could get me gaming tonight for approx $1,500.  Thoughts?


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-black-red/5623270.p?skuId=5623270&reviewsPage=3

As i've mentioned in other posts, I need everything.  My local best buy has one of these in stock.  Is it worth the money or should I keep searching?

Specs -

Intel i7-6700 3.4ghz
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 3gb
16GB DDR4 RAM
1TB SATA III HD
120 GB SATA SSD
RGB Lighting
Windows 10
Mouse
Keyboard
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: Zoney on February 04, 2017, 12:32:46 PM
I spent $1700 on this rig just a few months ago.  the biggest difference is the video card.

3.4 GHz processor, Geforce 1080, 16 GB hardware, 240 GB SSD and 1TB HD.

It is also an Ibuypower brand.  I'm very happy with it.  Absolutely rock solid 60 fps under all conditions with all the eye candy maxxed out.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: Bizman on February 04, 2017, 01:15:24 PM
There's a huge difference between a GTX 1060 3GB and a 1080. Also, what does the RGB lighting do for your gameplay?

I copied the specs to PCPartpicker (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wxc4Gf) trying to choose decent quality options and the price for the parts was below $1100. A builder company should charge about $100 for assembly and testing, so $1500 sounds a little high to me.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 04, 2017, 01:20:02 PM
There's a huge difference between a GTX 1060 3GB and a 1080. Also, what does the RGB lighting do for your gameplay?

I copied the specs to PCPartpicker (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wxc4Gf) trying to choose decent quality options and the price for the parts was below $1100. A builder company should charge about $100 for assembly and testing, so $1500 sounds a little high to me.

Best Buy is selling that system for $1,050.  I came up with $1,500 TOTAL because I would still need a monitor, stick and a headset which I figure would cost me another 450.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: Zoney on February 04, 2017, 01:21:41 PM
There's a huge difference between a GTX 1060 3GB and a 1080. Also, what does the RGB lighting do for your gameplay?

I copied the specs to PCPartpicker (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wxc4Gf) trying to choose decent quality options and the price for the parts was below $1100. A builder company should charge about $100 for assembly and testing, so $1500 sounds a little high to me.

I know what it did for me.  When my wife saw the flashing colored lights she said "How much did that cost".
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 04, 2017, 01:24:54 PM
Just realized my company has a purchase discount program with Dell.  I'm gonna put an alienware together and post specs shortly.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 04, 2017, 01:29:54 PM
Okay, through my employer I can get a 10% discount with Dell.

Alienware Aurora R6

7th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-7400 Processor (4-Cores, 6MB Cache, Turbo Boost 2.0, up to 3.5GHz)
Windows 10 Home 64bit English
Alienware™ 460 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 with 6GB GDDR5
8GB DDR4 at 2400MHz; up to 64GB
1TB 7200RPM 6Gb/s
No Optical Drive
Intel® 3165 1x1 802.11ac Wi-Fi Wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.2
Alienware Keyboard and Mouse included

$905 and free shipping.

Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: Bizman on February 04, 2017, 01:36:03 PM
Now that sounds more like it  :aok

Should you need more memory, it's not a big issue. Same goes for the optical drive. The case looks like there's no place for one, but USB optical drives don't cost much either.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 04, 2017, 02:31:54 PM
So indecisive...I'm seriously thinking about just driving right to Best Buy and purchasing the ibuypower from the start of this thread.  Then I can be playing AH tonight 😀

My only concern is that the vid card is only 3G rather then 6.  But if I'm ONLY playing AH, would that even matter?  Is this system not more then capable of maxing out AH3?
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: Bizman on February 04, 2017, 02:51:35 PM
The 3 GB version of GTX1060 will run AH3 very well on a single 1920x1080 monitor with most of eye candy enabled.

If your itch isn't too bad, I'd recommend you to wait to get the Alienware for $500 cheaper. Or, if you're willing to pay the higher price, you'd get a much better performer for years to come.

However you said you'd need a monitor, too... Have you thought about maybe getting one of those ultra wide curved monitors? Or even 4k? Or 144 Hz? Or even a combination of those? If so, then the 1060 won't be enough. In that case the Best Buy option would be a Worst Buy way too soon.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 04, 2017, 03:01:44 PM
The Alienware is only $150 cheaper and I would still need the stick, headphones and monitor. 

Ibuypower -$1050
Alienware - $900

And to my untrained eye, the ibuypower looks like more bang for buck, no?

And to answer your question about monitor I am going to buy a basic 1080 monitor.  May even just try and run through tv.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: AKQwik on February 04, 2017, 03:37:10 PM
I've use an iBuyPower (i7-4790-4GHz, 16GB, GTX-970, 120GB HD, 1TB SSD) for over two years now with no problems.  It runs AH at max settings at over 100fps.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 04, 2017, 03:52:46 PM
Done.  Checking out of best  buy now, see you in the unfriendly skies tonight!!!
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: Bizman on February 04, 2017, 04:02:10 PM
Oh, the price difference wasn't that big. My eyes got stuck to that:

---this could get me gaming tonight for approx $1,500.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: DaddyAce on February 04, 2017, 07:16:00 PM
I think you'll be happy with your choice.  I believe the 1060 will limit your fr on that system, but I expect you'll not find it an issue.  I use a 3 GB 1060, the vram is never maxed out, so I think there's no advantage to have the 6 for AH3.  When frs dip below the 75 fps (monitor-limit) on my system, I can see that my 1060 is maxed out, whereas my i3 6100 never seems to max out, so I think you'll have plenty of cpu power, and overall I expect you'll be quite pleased with your system.

Good luck with your new puter cav!   :cheers:
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 04, 2017, 11:43:11 PM
Definitely happy but I'm surprised how much the game is stuttering, even on basic settings.  Is it AH or do I possibly have some stuff going on in the background in my end?
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: Bruv119 on February 05, 2017, 02:01:28 AM
look into some of your startup programs on windows 10.

Things tend to start "Automatically"   If your jumping right into game from boot it's probably doing a disk scan!

oh and welcome back cav!    :cheers:
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: zack1234 on February 05, 2017, 02:08:25 AM
Where has CAV been?

DX11 is a bit moody try AH DX9 :old:

Been on website they look  very nice
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: Bizman on February 05, 2017, 03:37:24 AM
look into some of your startup programs on windows 10.

Things tend to start "Automatically"   If your jumping right into game from boot it's probably doing a disk scan!

oh and welcome back cav!    :cheers:

This, and some other Windows 10 taming tricks. One important thing is to dive deep in the Windows Update settings and disable sharing updates to other computers. The easiest way to tame 10 (and 8, for that matter) is to modify the options during the installation process. Everything can be changed afterwards, but the settings are then spread all around the system. Also you might like to disable and/or uninstall the active tiles in the Start menu.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 05, 2017, 12:17:21 PM
Looks like i'm running direct x 12.  Is this going to be an issue?
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: Bizman on February 05, 2017, 02:00:07 PM
No, it's backwards compatible.
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: DeadStik on February 05, 2017, 04:07:56 PM
Looks like i'm running direct x 12.  Is this going to be an issue?

Make sure you boot the dx9 version of AH. As mentioned the dx11 tends to stutter. Dx9 is smooth with no hiccups. Open you AH folder and you'll see both versions of the .exe. Good luck!


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Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 05, 2017, 04:44:54 PM
Confirmed I'm on the DX9 version.  TY!
Title: Re: iBUYPOWER desktop 991? Is this worth it?
Post by: cav58d on February 05, 2017, 04:50:46 PM
FYI this computer just went on sale.  $70 off, now it's $979.99 before tax.  Not a bad deal at all.

Now to see if they will honor the price within 24 hours of the sale, or if i'm gonna have to return the damn thing and re-purchase.