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Title: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on February 20, 2017, 03:50:30 PM
This is a copy of my C drive which is an SSD. Would this be causing resource problems? The symptoms I've been having are blurry ground clutter, minor warping, and difficulty seeing the red icons and even making out what plane it is.

I was think of restoring the drive to original condition and moving all the programs to another computer. Actually just moving the data. The programs are already on the other computer.

Any advice would be appreciated.


(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/C%20drive_zpsvbug2emv.gif) (http://s370.photobucket.com/user/aesopsoze/media/C%20drive_zpsvbug2emv.gif.html)
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 20, 2017, 04:03:08 PM
Getback, a DX report would be more helpful

Is this a Lenovo laptop with Windows 10? is the OS 32 bit or 64 bit?

Need to see size of SSD and know how much free space is left, and also see the pagefile


TC
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 20, 2017, 04:06:54 PM
Having Quicken (isn't this a intuit software? Pretty sure it is) loaded in the background sure isn't helping

TC
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: 1ijac on February 20, 2017, 04:07:49 PM
Sounds like a resolution problem to me.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Skuzzy on February 20, 2017, 04:14:37 PM
The SSD will not cause what you are asking about.

A DXDIAG output would be a good start.  Yes, any Intuit software is going to cause a lot of bloat.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on February 20, 2017, 04:31:40 PM

Hope I grabbed enough.

 Time of this report: 2/20/2017, 17:29:30
             Machine name: DESKTOP-KTUE08G
               Machine Id: {2217A973-920B-4C5E-8081-91DB90494D21}
         Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 14393) (14393.rs1_release.161220-1747)
                 Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
      System Manufacturer: LENOVO
             System Model: 90DG0006US
                     BIOS: O1ZKT29A
                Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
                   Memory: 8192MB RAM
      Available OS Memory: 8144MB RAM
                Page File: 2297MB used, 7126MB available
              Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
          DirectX Version: DirectX 12
      DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
       System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
          DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
                 Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
           DxDiag Version: 10.00.14393.0000 64bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GTX 960
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
        Device Type: Full Device
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1401&SUBSYS_32001462&REV_A1
      Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
     Display Memory: 6088 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 2016 MB
      Shared Memory: 4071 MB
       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: HP 25e Display
      Monitor Model: HP 25es
         Monitor Id: HWP3323
        Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
        Output Type: HDMI
        Driver Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvlewu.inf_amd64_defb74c702088bff\nvd3dumx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvlewu.inf_amd64_defb74c702088bff\nvwgf2umx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvlewu.inf_amd64_defb74c702088bff\nvwgf2umx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvlewu.inf_amd64_defb74c702088bff\nvwgf2umx.dll
Driver File Version: 21.21.0013.6909 (English)
     Driver Version: 21.21.13.6909
        DDI Version: 12
     Feature Levels: 12_1,12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
       Driver Model: WDDM 2.1
Graphics Preemption: DMA
 Compute Preemption: DMA
           Miracast: Not Supported by Graphics driver
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
     Power P-states: Not Supported
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 7/31/2016 7:00:00 PM, 17799424 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
  Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-5741-11CF-2F6D-0D121BC2D835}
          Vendor ID: 0x10DE
          Device ID: 0x1401
          SubSys ID: 0x32001462
        Revision ID: 0x00A1
 Driver Strong Name: oem48.inf:0f066de3a72f9309:Section050:21.21.13.6909:pci\ven_10de&dev_1401&subsys_32001462
     Rank Of Driver: 00D10001
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Skuzzy on February 20, 2017, 04:43:59 PM
Have you tried disabling the "anti-aliasing" in the "Post Processing" options?
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on February 20, 2017, 05:22:58 PM
Where are the post processing options?
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on February 20, 2017, 05:40:20 PM
Have you tried disabling the "anti-aliasing" in the "Post Processing" options?

I found all the Anti-aliasing features and turned them all off in the Nvidia control panel.

It seemed better but this was off line. Another issue is my HDMI connected Monitor seems awfully bright. What can I do about that?
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on February 20, 2017, 06:07:09 PM
I found all the Anti-aliasing features and turned them all off in the Nvidia control panel.

It seemed better but this was off line. Another issue is my HDMI connected Monitor seems awfully bright. What can I do about that?

Additionally I set the resolution to 2048. I'm not sure if that is resolution. Then I put the HP monitor on gaming mode. The text size is n now 14. Then, finally I lowered the Gamma a hair. Seems better. I will get rid of Quicken from this computer. I have it on another anyway.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: The Fugitive on February 20, 2017, 06:43:54 PM
Where are the post processing options?

Once in the game, go to graphic options/advanced, and on the swing out you'll see the post lighting and such, turn those off.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on February 20, 2017, 07:14:18 PM
Once in the game, go to graphic options/advanced, and on the swing out you'll see the post lighting and such, turn those off.

Found it. Thanks!


 So just disable Post lighting which disable all the below?
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on February 20, 2017, 07:35:17 PM
TC, it's a desktop computer.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Skuzzy on February 21, 2017, 06:21:58 AM
Where are the post processing options?

From the clipboard:  Options->Graphiic Details->Advanced.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Dobs on February 21, 2017, 07:56:42 AM
This is a copy of my C drive which is an SSD. Would this be causing resource problems? The symptoms I've been having are blurry ground clutter, minor warping, and difficulty seeing the red icons and even making out what plane it is.

I was think of restoring the drive to original condition and moving all the programs to another computer. Actually just moving the data. The programs are already on the other computer.

Any advice would be appreciated.


(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/C%20drive_zpsvbug2emv.gif) (http://s370.photobucket.com/user/aesopsoze/media/C%20drive_zpsvbug2emv.gif.html)

Get back---SSD C drive should not matter on the matters bolded and in red from your post.

I find Yellow much easier to see...(except small period of sunrise/sunset where I click back to red usually)
(https://i.imgur.com/pqcRRZn.jpg)
Turn off Anti-Aliasing (IN GAME)..makes the font a little bolder.
Also via the GUI you can change the font size...

Minor warping is connect related--
Blurry ground clutter issue may be due to texture size (set in opening splash screen>Video Settings>)
(https://i.imgur.com/EB583An.jpg)

Set it to Maximum (4096) and see if that helps. Also here is what I have set my graphics (in game to)....

(https://i.imgur.com/yN8l5xI.jpg)
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 21, 2017, 08:58:52 AM
Looks like his GTX 960 only has 2 GB dedicated (even though video memory is showing a total of about 6 GB)

If that's the case, he would be better off using textures size of 2048 or 1024....

Hope this helps

TC
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Dobs on February 21, 2017, 10:01:49 AM
It is only a 2 GB card....

But I know that running max texture in 4k res, it is barely tapping into my (incorrectly reported) memory....

(https://i.imgur.com/TOtykmt.jpg)

If he could post (Control I to bring up above display) what his is reporting in game it might help.

Skuzzy, care to weigh in?
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Skuzzy on February 21, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
At 4K texture size, you can expect the game it use more than 1GB of video RAM, in many circumstances.  Should still fit in 2GB of video RAM, today.

The maximum video memory being reported is a limitation of the particular DirectX call we are using.  It is a trade-off in order to be able to report the amount used correctly, which we deemed a higher priority.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Dobs on February 21, 2017, 11:30:40 AM
Got it Skuzzy. Thank you for the info.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on February 21, 2017, 03:45:54 PM
Thanks everyone! I'll give it a shot. It has already gotten better offline. So we will see.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on February 22, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
Should I get rid of the Bluetooth? I run  my speakers off that but can run it directly to the computer.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Bizman on February 23, 2017, 01:23:45 AM
Bluetooth is a wireless system with a tendency of trying to find new devices. At least go through the settings and disable the automatic search function. The pumping effect of any background program checking for updates or other changes is often the cause of many hiccups in the game.

If your speakers are the only device you're using on BT and there's the option to wire them, you'd free some resources by entirely disabling it.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on February 25, 2017, 05:42:58 PM
I'm about to make some changes to my computer and running the wires and removing the Bluetooth device will be one of them.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on March 05, 2017, 03:00:41 PM
No joy. I'm so tired of fighting the warping. When there's heavy traffic everything warps. When there's not it's still not smooth. I've moved quicken to my other computer and got rid of Bluetooth.

I do have wifi for tv but I'm not watching it and playing. Also on my phone. Is this an issue?
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: morfiend on March 05, 2017, 03:42:39 PM
No joy. I'm so tired of fighting the warping. When there's heavy traffic everything warps. When there's not it's still not smooth. I've moved quicken to my other computer and got rid of Bluetooth.

I do have wifi for tv but I'm not watching it and playing. Also on my phone. Is this an issue?


  Is your desktop running wifi?   If so it could be the issue,try running an ethernet cable from router to desktop!



    :salute
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on March 09, 2017, 04:48:54 PM
I restored my desktop to original settings that helped quite a bit. I lose frame rate on deck though.

I now think windows 10 is downloading updates in the background.

The gaming computer is cable connected and the other one is wifi.

So now I'm hoping that it is just the updates causing the issue.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Bizman on March 10, 2017, 01:47:57 AM
Before starting the game, go into Settings and check for updates manually. That way you should be aware of that kind of background activity. Check the update settings and disable the peer-to-peer function to prevent unnecessary use of your connections while gaming.

Further, uninstall the Start menu apps you don't use and set the rest not to show active contents. That's done by right clicking. Also go into the Windows Market and check for updates for the remaining apps.
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: MADe on March 13, 2017, 09:24:29 PM
I restored my desktop to original settings that helped quite a bit. I lose frame rate on deck though.

I now think windows 10 is downloading updates in the background.

The gaming computer is cable connected and the other one is wifi.

So now I'm hoping that it is just the updates causing the issue.

router congestion.........
its possible the router is holding back bandwidth for wifi devices..?? Even if none in use. cells...........

connect your gamer pc in directly to ISP modem, no router, now play and see.
no joy, disable video settings to minimums, now play and see..........

2 kinds of warpy behavior, bad connects you usually see the others position updates erratically, they scoot and skip. software in background running stupid monitoring stuff or updating. 
sound and video each can cause freezes, stutters, that some may call warping.

Theres quite a bit of w10 stuff to disable............

trying to isolate which sector of performance that's lacking is the start.

 :salute
Title: Re: SSD C drive
Post by: Getback on March 22, 2017, 11:17:26 PM
Thanks folks! I'll take those suggestions very seriously.

I went into task manager and took a bunch of crap out of startup. I also updated my NVidia drivers. I'm not sure if windows 10 had installed their own or not when I restored my computer.

I also switched ISPs and now have 30mbs instead of 6. Not sure if that will help. After all is said and done. It's better but not great.