Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: hotcoffe on February 27, 2017, 06:26:33 AM
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allow c47s to carry 20troops
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Any reason you think it would be better for C47s to carry 20 vs the current 10? Or just that it would be easier to take bases?
This has been wished for before. The response was that if C47's carried 20 troops, it would take 20 troops to take the map room.
Personally, I think its fine how it is.
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+1
The extra troops would make it an interesting choice over the M-3. The M-3 is much more survivable because it is harder to see. A C-47 can bee seen outside of icon range but with the advantage of extra troops, it might see more use. If it can get to town alive, the extra troops are going to be harder to kill.
It isn't any different than weighing the options between planes or vehicles for your sortie. Right now, the M-3 (because of relative invisibility) has made the C-47 obsolete. The only reason to ever take one is if there is no spawn to the enemy base.
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Keep the C47 as it is and add the C54 with 20 troops or 20 Vehicle supplies. :)
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Keep the C47 as it is and add the C54 with 20 troops or 20 Vehicle supplies. :)
even better +1
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I think the problem is that a typical player wants his troops to take the base, not the next guy's troops. So its unlikely HTC would make the number of troops required for a take more than what an M-3 or similar GV can carry. So the only advantage to having 20 troops on a C-47 would be to make it harder for defenders to kill enough of them to stop the take, but that is still more than balanced by the relative vulnerability of the carrier aircraft.
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HT's often said, 1 troop carrier, enough troops for 1 base take. Just saying it's unlikely.
Wiley.
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add a speed nerf if an M3 isn't on roads.
make going cross country less appealing, and to stick to the fast roads but more visible and dangerous
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I want to see the M8 as a troop carrier, put let say 5 troops in it..
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I had been thinking of changing the m3 load out to something less then 10
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I had been thinking of changing the m3 load out to something less then 10
Would it be easier to just change the hardness to require more than 10?
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Would it be easier to just change the hardness to require more than 10?
That's not the intent, what you are asking would also change the c47. I was just thinking of making it advantageous to use the 47 vs an m3.
HiTech
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I had been thinking of changing the m3 load out to something less then 10
Good idea since the M3 has been the method to go to for taking bases i think it would take a bit more planning then swarm the map room with 30+ troops like i have seen before
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I had been thinking of changing the m3 load out to something less then 10
+1 :aok
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That's not the intent, what you are asking would also change the c47. I was just thinking of making it advantageous to use the 47 vs an m3.
HiTech
Ah. Much better then. :aok
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I had been thinking of changing the m3 load out to something less then 10
7 would be fun.
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This would tend to slow down how fast maps get flipped, or turn more guys into buddies showing up in M3 pairs.
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I would wish.....
When 1 = # Troops to kill a map room
C47 = 1
Studebaker truck = 1
M3 = 0.6
Jeep = 0.3
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This would tend to slow down how fast maps get flipped, or turn more guys into buddies showing up in M3 pairs.
You say this like its a bad thing.
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I would wish.....
When 1 = # Troops to kill a map room
C47 = 1
Opel Blitz = 1
M3 = 0.6
Jeep = 0.3
:aok
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It's less complicated for Hitech than trying to control human beings with complex formulas to force participation down x\or rabbit holes. Hitech already proved when he makes something complex players stop using it or taking part in the process.
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Certainly would like to see the viability of the C47 a bit more over the M3... Let alone the german troop carrier! (put 20 troops in the german unit, and reduce the M3 to say 5 or 7 troops)
Either way, the M3 as it stands now, is the only effective way to capture a base with and without some decent teamwork/timing on a base take.
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That's not the intent, what you are asking would also change the c47. I was just thinking of making it advantageous to use the 47 vs an m3.
HiTech
+1
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(put 20 troops in the german unit
Midget troops, I suppose... :noid
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+1 on communication and cooperation, and -1 on troop increase.
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Ok so looking at all the replies ,
lets take 5 troops out of m3 and put them in c47
so we will have m3 with 5 troops (bcuz they are more sneaky)
and c47s with 15 troops , so they get be used more often and add an other dimension to the defenders problems :) (either spot them early and prevent troop drop , or chase after 15 troops on chute or running...)
please note that usally m3 can drive up to maproom and let the troops run which is giving a very very short time to react for defenders once the troops are released next to or really near to the map room , where as c47 ( even it lands close by to maproom) troops has a lot more exposure until they reach to the maproom (time spend on chute + time spend running to maproom)...
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Ok so looking at all the replies ,
lets take 5 troops out of m3 and put them in c47
so we will have m3 with 5 troops (bcuz they are more sneaky)
and c47s with 15 troops , so they get be used more often and add an other dimension to the defenders problems :) (either spot them early and prevent troop drop , or chase after 15 troops on chute or running...)
please note that usally m3 can drive up to maproom and let the troops run which is giving a very very short time to react for defenders once the troops are released next to or really near to the map room , where as c47 ( even it lands close by to maproom) troops has a lot more exposure until they reach to the maproom (time spend on chute + time spend running to maproom)...
-1. Just having 10 troops in the goon will make it used more often.
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That's not the intent, what you are asking would also change the c47. I was just thinking of making it advantageous to use the 47 vs an m3.
HiTech
Sweet
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I like the idea of perhaps 8 troops in the M3, 12 or 13 in the C47, 10 in the German thingy with rockets..., and 3 in the jeep.
So if you're on the ground, you would need a minimum of a M3 and a Jeep to take a base.
And there are times you can have 10 M3s and never take a base.
But I am definitely for the M3 troop number to change.
:rock
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Give the Goon 12 to 15. That gives it a slight edge over the M3.
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Give the Goon 12 to 15. That gives it a slight edge over the M3.
It would already have a sight edge over the M3, if the number in the M3 was reduced.
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It would already have a sight edge over the M3, if the number in the M3 was reduced.
As Bustr said, then you'll have tag team driving...
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I like the idea of perhaps 8 troops in the M3, 12 or 13 in the C47, 10 in the German thingy with rockets..., and 3 in the jeep.
+1
Seems like the right numbers to me. Would allow for a couple of casualties during a C-47 drop, and create an incentive to use the German Thingy.
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I doubt you'll see the goon ever carry more than the required "10", but I think it would be a good idea to drop the M3 to<less than> 10. Making more than one M3 having to make the run is a good thing. Another thought, time. If it takes an M3 5 minutes to run in from the spawn point and the goon 10 minutes to fly in you wont see much of a change. A fix would be to adjust the time troops "live" so that a single player couldn't make to troop drop in an M3 by himself.
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I doubt you'll see the goon ever carry more than the required "10", but I think it would be a good idea to drop the M3 to<less than> 10. Making more than one M3 having to make the run is a good thing. Another thought, time. If it takes an M3 5 minutes to run in from the spawn point and the goon 10 minutes to fly in you wont see much of a change. A fix would be to adjust the time troops "live" so that a single player couldn't make to troop drop in an M3 by himself.
I agree with the sentiment, but that would make thing too complicated for players. The short drive time for M3s is an issue of map design, and more specifically the placement of the spawn points. There are a few examples in which not enough thought was given to this aspect - some spawns are too close and some are in illogical direction relative to the attacked base and the origin base.
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That's not the intent, what you are asking would also change the c47. I was just thinking of making it advantageous to use the 47 vs an m3.
HiTech
Maybe this could help?
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,329088.msg4311376.html#msg4311376