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Title: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: lefty2 on March 02, 2017, 07:32:29 PM
for freak sakes what do u boys do all day?... i don't want to know
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Devil 505 on March 02, 2017, 07:41:49 PM
Yes. I hate that I cant open the clipboard to check the map and see who is on my vox channel at the same time.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: BowHTR on March 02, 2017, 07:53:50 PM
Why not just move one or the other? Are you keeping the radio window open the entire time?
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Devil 505 on March 02, 2017, 08:27:01 PM
No, I keep the clipboard up far more often. But there are times when I want to quickly check the radio to see who is range or on channel while cruising.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: JimmyD3 on March 02, 2017, 08:43:07 PM
Dang you guys whine about everything lol.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: SIK1 on March 02, 2017, 10:31:47 PM
The only issue I have with the new clipboard is that it hides the film dialog window to save or cancel the film and now I have films 1,2,3,4, etc.
I'm sure I'll learn to deal with it in time.

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Electroman on March 03, 2017, 01:26:30 AM
Yep - HATE IT! Already reported it here:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,385542.0.html

I too do exactly the same thing when I want to check who is quickly in range and i usually have my clipboard open almost all the time. Now I have to move the clipboard first, or minimize the clipboard, then check range, then close range / vox and bring up the clipboard again. Too many steps and is counter-intuitive.

Please put it back the way it was!

Cheers,
Elec1
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: zack1234 on March 03, 2017, 01:34:16 AM
The new clipboard is the most fantastic clipboard I have ever seen or used :old:

Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: FESS67 on March 03, 2017, 02:25:40 AM
I have no idea why they are fixing stuff that is not broken but at least it proves they are at work   :noid
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: SIK1 on March 03, 2017, 02:32:00 AM
Dang you guys whine about everything lol.

This

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: OldNitro on March 03, 2017, 06:04:37 AM
 :rofl Don't be messin with a guy's:

GUN SAFE
HOTROD
MOTORCYCLE
TOOL BOX/WORK SHOP
COMPUTER PREFERENCES

Flight sim?  :furious

Edit: POWER TOOLS


Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: TequilaChaser on March 03, 2017, 06:20:11 AM
I was under the impression that they adjusted the clipboard to be/stay open on top of all other windows in the game and stay in the center, for purpose of the VR users benefit

If I read the release notes correctly

TC
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: BowHTR on March 03, 2017, 06:47:43 AM
Yep - HATE IT! Already reported it here:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,385542.0.html

I too do exactly the same thing when I want to check who is quickly in range and i usually have my clipboard open almost all the time. Now I have to move the clipboard first, or minimize the clipboard, then check range, then close range / vox and bring up the clipboard again. Too many steps and is counter-intuitive.

Please put it back the way it was!

Cheers,
Elec1

Why not simply move the radio windows to where they are not behind the clipboard?
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: zack1234 on March 03, 2017, 07:02:54 AM
Can we have a Pink clipboard?
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: NatCigg on March 03, 2017, 07:11:08 AM
oh sure, next thing you know they are going to want a jet.

now listen here! you get nothing, you will like it.  you were born with nothing, you will die with nothing, and you are dam well lucky every map looks like a pie.

there, i said it. you know i had to do it.

carry on and good day, sir.

 :airplane:
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Max on March 03, 2017, 07:37:41 AM
I have no idea why they are fixing stuff that is not broken but at least it proves they are at work   :noid

I floated the idea of adding submarines back in '02. Full speed ahead HTC!
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: puller on March 03, 2017, 08:10:24 AM
+1 on changing clipboard back

I don't want to have to move my clipboard from where it goes and has been at for years just to see half my radio window...and it completely covers my range and channel window...
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: gflyer on March 03, 2017, 08:38:49 AM
Maybe a compromise? Make the clipboard able to be sent back or forward a layer based on user selection.  Or, would be nice if dialog boxes would remember their last position and draw there? 
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: TequilaChaser on March 03, 2017, 08:52:58 AM
  Or, would be nice if dialog boxes would remember their last position and draw there? 

I think this is how it already was before the recent changes....  your FE would remember the size of clipboard and location via one of the settings files


TC
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: gflyer on March 03, 2017, 08:56:30 AM
The clipboard kept position, but dialog boxes always seem to draw center screen? (Those not displayed as part of the clipboard).
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: TequilaChaser on March 03, 2017, 09:11:04 AM
The only boxes that ever showed up in the middle of my screen were the save film box and the score mission as box.... all other windows and/or boxes showed up where I wanted them to or in the text buffer, if it was a join flight or join squad message

TC
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: hitech on March 03, 2017, 11:47:47 AM
The popup windows are supposed to now show in front of the clip board, I'll fix the film, are there any others I missed?

HiTech
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: lefty2 on March 03, 2017, 12:46:14 PM
ya the score comes up behind and cant calibrate axis
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: haggerty on March 04, 2017, 09:08:24 AM
yes, the people in voice channel and room show behind the clipboard still.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: BowHTR on March 04, 2017, 09:43:09 AM
yes, the people in voice channel and room show behind the clipboard still.

You can move that window
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Vraciu on March 04, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
Can someone post a screenshot for context?

And can we have a full screen map option please as well?

In real life I can open my charts as much as I want.  I'm not limited by a clipboard size unless I'm using my iPad.   :salute
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Snork on March 04, 2017, 03:18:10 PM
:rofl Don't be messin with a guy's:

GUN SAFE
HOTROD
MOTORCYCLE
TOOL BOX/WORK SHOP
COMPUTER PREFERENCES

Flight sim?  :furious

Edit: POWER TOOLS

Woman?
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Electroman on March 06, 2017, 10:15:41 AM
The popup windows are supposed to now show in front of the clip board, I'll fix the film, are there any others I missed?

HiTech

Saw the latest patch that said it fixed the clipboard / popup windows but still doing the same thing for me. (Note I have 3 monitor setup 3840 x 1024 - Clipboard on the right monitor).
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: hitech on March 06, 2017, 01:30:37 PM
Saw the latest patch that said it fixed the clipboard / popup windows but still doing the same thing for me. (Note I have 3 monitor setup 3840 x 1024 - Clipboard on the right monitor).
Which windows?

HiTech
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: BowHTR on March 06, 2017, 01:36:35 PM
Which windows?

HiTech

He is prolly referring to the radio window that shows the names of the people in range and people on channel. I don't thing most people understand that you can move that window.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: zack1234 on March 06, 2017, 01:45:42 PM
I floated the idea of adding submarines back in '02. Full speed ahead HTC!

I did as well, it would be awesome
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Electroman on March 06, 2017, 04:05:42 PM
Which windows?

HiTech

The Range / Vox list window - is stuck behind clipboard when it is up.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Electroman on March 06, 2017, 04:07:07 PM
He is prolly referring to the radio window that shows the names of the people in range and people on channel. I don't thing most people understand that you can move that window.

Oh - I do understand I can move that window - However I like it where it is out of the way in the upper corner. Before the clipboard would show up behind it, now in front. I prefer that window in the upper right corner of my 3rd monitor and not elsewhere.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: BowHTR on March 06, 2017, 04:18:28 PM
Oh - I do understand I can move that window - However I like it where it is out of the way in the upper corner. Before the clipboard would show up behind it, now in front. I prefer that window in the upper right corner of my 3rd monitor and not elsewhere.

Are you leaving the window up the entire time?
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: hitech on March 06, 2017, 04:50:12 PM
The Range / Vox list window - is stuck behind clipboard when it is up.

Thats intentional.

HiTech
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Wiley on March 06, 2017, 04:55:18 PM
Are you leaving the window up the entire time?

Here's how I use it and why it gets under my skin now and again, BowHTR.

A lot of the time, on climbout or if it's not that hot of an area, I've got my clipboard up.  Partly to watch for suspicious bardar in other sectors, partly to keep an eye on the bardar in my current sector in case it grows and it's time to stop browsing the web on my phone.  Sometimes doing this I am inclined to type on the radio and/or use the radio display to keep an eye out for squaddies logging in.  With the window moved over to the other side, I've now got most of my monitor covered by clipboard and radio where before, I had over half of my display open to keep an eye on the sky around me.

It's not game breaking, but it is a pain in the backside.

Thats intentional.

HiTech

If it's for VR, could I suggest tying it to the globe GUI and leaving it as it used to be for the normal GUI?

Wiley.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: BowHTR on March 06, 2017, 04:59:05 PM
Here's how I use it and why it gets under my skin now and again, BowHTR.

A lot of the time, on climbout or if it's not that hot of an area, I've got my clipboard up.  Partly to watch for suspicious bardar in other sectors, partly to keep an eye on the bardar in my current sector in case it grows and it's time to stop browsing the web on my phone.  Sometimes doing this I am inclined to type on the radio and/or use the radio display to keep an eye out for squaddies logging in.  With the window moved over to the other side, I've now got most of my monitor covered by clipboard and radio where before, I had over half of my display open to keep an eye on the sky around me.

It's not game breaking, but it is a pain in the backside.

If it's for VR, could I suggest tying it to the globe GUI and leaving it as it used to be for the normal GUI?

Wiley.

If your leaving the window open for extended periods, have you tried making the window more transparent? Then you can still see who's in your channel but not take up so much space.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Wiley on March 06, 2017, 05:05:26 PM
If your leaving the window open for extended periods, have you tried making the window more transparent? Then you can still see who's in your channel but not take up so much space.

But that'll lighten all of the GUI windows, won't it?  That is undesirable for me.

What exactly does having the size of the clipboard affect whether it's on top or behind the channel window improve about the system?

Wiley.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: BowHTR on March 06, 2017, 05:12:22 PM
But that'll lighten all of the GUI windows, won't it?  That is undesirable for me.

What exactly does having the size of the clipboard affect whether it's on top or behind the channel window improve about the system?

Wiley.

It will lighten only the radio window that you type in and the radio list window, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Wiley on March 06, 2017, 05:16:34 PM
It will lighten only the radio window that you type in and the radio list window, if I remember correctly.

So the buffer as well?  I'll check it out, but again, I just don't see a point to how it's currently working.

Wiley.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: Electroman on March 06, 2017, 05:19:04 PM
Here's how I use it and why it gets under my skin now and again, BowHTR.

A lot of the time, on climbout or if it's not that hot of an area, I've got my clipboard up.  Partly to watch for suspicious bardar in other sectors, partly to keep an eye on the bardar in my current sector in case it grows and it's time to stop browsing the web on my phone.  Sometimes doing this I am inclined to type on the radio and/or use the radio display to keep an eye out for squaddies logging in.  With the window moved over to the other side, I've now got most of my monitor covered by clipboard and radio where before, I had over half of my display open to keep an eye on the sky around me.

 :aok

EXACTLY - This is also what i use it for and do have it up a lot. Now it's just a nuisance the way it is.

Could you possibly allow an option for personal user preference via checkbox or something? For me I like having the large clipboard up most of the time, watching for dar bar / enemies nearby, and then quickly trying to bring up a list of squaddies on channel or nearby I can directly text / type to and it was efficient before the change. Now have to jump through hoops (reduce clipboard, type, bring back up clipboard, or move windows around and lose more visual space which reduces even more SA than I am already lacking.  :x

Cheers,
Elec1
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: BowHTR on March 06, 2017, 05:20:40 PM
So the buffer as well?  I'll check it out, but again, I just don't see a point to how it's currently working.

Wiley.

I couldn't tell you the point. I'm sure it was for a good reason. I can tell you that a lot are making a fuss out of something small, which occurs quite often.
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: gflyer on March 08, 2017, 07:02:56 PM
Custom Arena Password dialog and MapKeys comes up behind. 
Title: Re: please put the clipboard back the way it was!
Post by: pembquist on March 08, 2017, 07:18:25 PM
What was the problem that clipboard always on top solves? It would be nice if you could untick a box so that it wasn't always on top.