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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Vraciu on March 21, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
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Gets funnier with each viewing. What a clod.
Watch in full screen for maximum hilarity.
http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2017/03/14/video-gun-instructor-brushes-off-accidental-discharge-44-mag/
Thankfully nobody got hurt.
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:rofl
"Did you mean to do that?" "Yeah." Sure he did. LOL
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Idiot
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:rofl
Something about this guy really reminds me if Biff from Back to the Future.
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Well... watermelon happens....
I have been losing the use of my hands and arms for nearly 8 years now and I accidentally let off a round of my Colt combat commander .45 officers model , in the living room with my Niece's new born daughter roughly 2 to 3 feet from me sitting on the couch, my Dad was to the left about 4 feet in his brand new recliner... I had my gun pointed down towards my new recliner and my thumb slipped the hammer letting of a hollow point round that nearly destroyed my new recliner.... thank GOD it didn't ricochet and hit one of my family...
Simple slip of the mind can really F something or someone up
I knew to discharge the magazine and discharge the chambered round before letting the hammer off... yet I rushed it...
This happened around last August, since I'm losing control of my hands, I've stopped carrying any loaded ready to pull trigger and fire guns... I even keep my Ruger blackhawk .44 mag with revolver with empty slot on first pull....
Is better to be safe than sorry..... and I have shot competition since I was 12, and have Expert on 2 different firearms and a Marksman on a 3rd when I was in the Navy...note: I stopped shooting competition about 7 years ago, like I said watermelon happens...
TC
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Well... watermelon happens....
And in the case of firearms it kills or injures people. It's unforgivable and so easily prevented. Four basic rules. I'm sorry you're having the issue with your hands, perhaps you shouldn't be handling loaded firearms.
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And in the case of firearms it kills or injures people. It's unforgivable and so easily prevented. Four basic rules. I'm sorry you're having the issue with your hands, perhaps you shouldn't be handling loaded firearms.
Yeah, I'm over due for 3 to 4 surgeries to hopefully fix my inabilities, colmbo... I figured I would just put it out there... I've always told it like it is, no reason or worries to stop because of some issues I might be dealing with...
Hopefully someone will learn from what I've posted...
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TC
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The only medical excuse the clown in the video has is a defect between the ears.
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I was not posting with an excuse, to be clear....
I brain farted, and slipped up....regardless of my medical issues
To Be Clear!
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You can see that his legs are a little wobbly after that happened.
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You can see that his legs are a little wobbly after that happened.
Yeah. He is kinda staggering. His hearing protection got knocked backwards on his head and he is trying to clear the cobwebs.
The more you watch the more stuff you notice.
I totally agree with the Biff comparison.
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He is teaching a class?????? :confused:
I would have demanded a refund! :bolt:
Still not as bad as the cop's ND, in the classroom full of kids!
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What should the instructor say or do after an errant round is discharged?
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What should the instructor say or do after an errant round is discharged?
He should have said he was handling the gun wrong and that no matter how long you have handled guns, always follow the rules of gun safety.
He was all over the place with a loaded gun. This guy was/is an idiot.
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I'd have been out of there before it even happened. He's an obvious idiot with far more mouth and ego then brains and training. Putting your finger on the trigger while off the line and not wanting to shoot isnt bad enough I guess so he then had to cock it.
The reason Ive never had an AD is cause i know my first is always right there waiting to happen the second I disrespect that gun and start running my mouth trying to impress others. I know a fool at my old job who got on at the range and was so busy trying to impress recruits as to what an expert he is that he couldnt tell a red Glock from a real black one and he sent a 9mm round right down a line of recruits lined up in a hallway. It was a miracle he didnt kill anyone.
And if you do do something unsafe with a gun then at least have the decency to eat your own manure and learn from it. I dont even like to go to public ranges anymore.
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What should the instructor say or do after an errant round is discharged?
Offer his resignation. :)
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What should the instructor say or do after an errant round is discharged?
He should admit he screwed up and take responsibility. Whatever that is it sure as hell isnt saying you meant to do it or reach for another gun on the table with a hole in your leg while a class room of kids are screaming "NO"!
It always seems to happen with the big mouth know it alls.
Tequila its time to put the guns away before you kill someone if your having those kind of issues. I know I would.
I have a rule. I always check twice if a gun is unloaded and I run a finger thru the empty mag well.
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Tequila its time to put the guns away before you kill someone if your having those kind of issues. I know I would.
I have a rule. I always check twice if a gun is unloaded and I run a finger thru the empty mag well.
Appreciate your concern and advice...
I've already posted here, owning up to my mistake... I've already added extra precautions, if or when I am target practicing (hardly any since that happened last August)
It was an eye opener for me of how badly my Cervical Spinal Stenosis at the C8 main nerve at the C7 & T1 vertebra had deteriorated/worsened...
Still though, my post was meant to be a lesson of what not to do.....
I posted, to show what can happen, no matter how experienced a person might be with firearms...
As for the OP, I agree he should have owned his mistake and resigned or gotten fired, as others have posted...
Saying that it's time for me to put the guns away before I kill someone is a bit much, after I have already posted of taking extra precautions of how I keep my guns stored yet ready to be used if a need arises.... but I know you meant it in a concern and sincere way
:salute
TC
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Wouldn't be surprised if that .44 had been "tuned" to have a very light trigger pull. A friend of mine had a .357 done that way and when you cocked it for single action the tiniest pressure on the trigger would fire it. I cocked it and as I was bringing it up to sight the target I set it off by merely touching the trigger - way too sensitive for me. I'll stick with double-action if you please.
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Wouldn't be surprised if that .44 had been "tuned" to have a very light trigger pull. A friend of mine had a .357 done that way and when you cocked it for single action the tiniest pressure on the trigger would fire it. I cocked it and as I was bringing it up to sight the target I set it off by merely touching the trigger - way too sensitive for me. I'll stick with double-action if you please.
Yeah, I'm the same. I stick with classic Sig autos and Smith/Ruger/Taurus revolvers. Factory trigger setups for any and all of these have been more than adequate for my needs. I'm not Rob Leatham. :D
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You dont "owe" me any explanations Tequila you dont have to "own up" for anything to me. What you do have to do is whats right regarding your medical condition. My spine is whacked as well and I barely got thru my career as a PO. There may very well be a day when I have to quit my favorite sport and I hope I have the wisdom to know it.
An AD can happen to anyone. In fact its happens to the experienced more then the inexperienced and I know I'm always one click away from one should I take my mind off that weapon for a second. Having to actually use them in the past has only re-enforced that to me.
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I hated the guy that "tuned" their guns, added mods, adjusted, etc. Became department policy that no modifications/adjustments could be made without approval of the department armorer...and general the gun had to be factory stock to be carried on duty.
To lighten a trigger is just silly on a combat/defense weapon. You're going to be badly stressed, light trigger increases chance of unintentional discharge.
Fellow officer shot himself in the rear holstering a S&W revolver with a trigger shoe (makes the trigger wider) in a break front holster. The trigger shoe extended beyond the edge of the trigger guard, trigger pressed by lips of holster.
I spent a couple days picking bullet and concrete fragments out of my leg after the fellow in the locker next to me discharged his revolver into the floor between us when holstering in a break front holster. Possibly got the retaining strap thru the trigger guard in front of trigger.
Guys would back off on the hammer spring screw to lighten the trigger on a S&W revolver. Misfires result because of light hammer fall.
Twice guys unloading Remington 870 pump guns had negligent discharges....one into the side of the dispatch building (managed to miss the bullet trap), the other was through the roof of the patrol car.
At the start of shift I grabbed an 870 out of the gun safe to find that it was loaded, round chambered and safety off. Think about taking a long gun out of a safe, it's stored muzzle up, you grab it and pull it toward you. :)
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Most PDs dont allow any modifications to guns even if they are guns the individual officer bought from an approved list. Now that I dont have to answer to a PD I am slowly getting at least my Glocks where I want them. The Glock is like the Leggo set of the gun world, a moron could work on them.
So I recently had an issue with a G-43. I correctly diagnosed the failure to feed was caused by a out of spec extractor that was causing little burrs to form on the extractor face and was causing my feed issues. I called Glock and asked them to send me another one and you know what they told me? They told me they could only send it to a Glock armorer with instructions for the armorer to put it on.
If you have never seen an extractor replacement for a Glock its something I could train my dog to do, or most certainly a chimpanzee. The "armorers school" is a 4 hour class you take so you can wave a little diploma around and start charging people $45 to have $10 warrantied parts sent to you. I know a girl who took that class and still doesnt know how to take a Glock apart to clean. Needless to say I wasn't happy.
So....I ordered my own extractor, put it in myself, and fixed the problem. I would never recommend the G-43 or 42 to anyone there have been just to many issues with them.
So since I dont like Glock triggers and dont have to answer to a Dept. anymore I am slowly bringing mine to my own personal spec. I like a clean break and dont like a lot of pre-travel. I DONT believe in competition light triggers in carry guns and only have one in my paper punching G-34 and 1911's. The important thing to know when working on guns is what your skill limit is but Ive been shooting for 50 years and I'm not about to pay some gun smith for stuff I can do myself.
And that "Armorers school" stuff is one big scam. $250 for a one day course, no wonder Glock will only send parts to one. The more people who make money in the Loop will make more people take the course, hoping to make money. You get a few suckers to pay you to replace parts on such a simple gun and you've covered your nut and its all green after that.