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Title: Jettison of Wg21 rocket rails
Post by: Chris79 on March 25, 2017, 12:56:14 PM
I just read on Wikipedia that the Luftwaffe planes that carried the WG21 rocket had the ability to jettison the tubes in order to revert to a clean profile. If that is correct, it would be a nice feature to have.
Title: Re: Jettison of Wg21 rocket rails
Post by: DeadStik on March 26, 2017, 06:14:26 PM
+1 if accurate!


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Title: Re: Jettison of Wg21 rocket rails
Post by: Chris79 on March 26, 2017, 06:27:21 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werfer-Granate_21

Under usage. I have at times found Wikipedia to somewhat inaccurate however.
Title: Re: Jettison of Wg21 rocket rails
Post by: Karnak on March 27, 2017, 09:56:50 AM
No.  They were not intended to be jettisoned.  The capability was for emergencies only.  In AH it would be used every time somebody carried them. It is like asking for a four cannon Spitfire.
Title: Re: Jettison of Wg21 rocket rails
Post by: Devil 505 on March 27, 2017, 10:46:55 AM
But that logic, drop tanks should not be jettisonable either.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Jettison of Wg21 rocket rails
Post by: bustr on March 27, 2017, 12:29:29 PM
No.  They were not intended to be jettisoned.  The capability was for emergencies only.  In AH it would be used every time somebody carried them. It is like asking for a four cannon Spitfire.

In AH when those tubes are attached to your wings, it becomes an emergency if a storch finds you. The tubes were made from steel which was a scarce war materiel so the rule against was for the sake of the material. Anything with those tubes caught by allied fighters died if they didn't jettison them. Makes you wonder if the foundation for the rule was to get pilots to push through to the bombers no matter what versus dropping the payload to cut and run. We only see combat footage of a single 110 firing those rockets while everything else in AAF combat footage had clean wings when it came to those tubes.

Allowing the explosive bolt to be triggered might increase the use of those rockets adding more of that dimension to the game. In a positive note for creating activity, if more players are willing to take the chance of getting caught because they can jettison, you will have more targets in the environment. Over the years while listening to and reading text range in all three countries, not being able to jettison was the single reason the majority refused to use those rockets. Probably why very few are any good with them today even though it looks like Hitech accounted for the 40 degree spin deviation. 
Title: Re: Jettison of Wg21 rocket rails
Post by: Karnak on March 27, 2017, 02:16:27 PM
But that logic, drop tanks should not be jettisonable either.  :rolleyes:
Nonsense.  Droptanks were, as the name suggests, routinely dropped.  They didn't require explosive bolts to do so either.

Over the years while listening to and reading text range in all three countries, not being able to jettison was the single reason the majority refused to use those rockets. Probably why very few are any good with them today even though it looks like Hitech accounted for the 40 degree spin deviation.

Drag is certainly the reason I almost never took the rockets on the Mossie.  The loss of speed even after firing the rockets was just too much.  At least with the bomb shackles you only lose 2 or 3mph.
Title: Re: Jettison of Wg21 rocket rails
Post by: Devil 505 on March 27, 2017, 02:30:28 PM
Nonsense.  Droptanks were, as the name suggests, routinely dropped.

But there were regulations dictating that empty "drop" tanks be retained even if no combat was entered.

 The method was for removing the items is irrelevant. The logic behind when to retain or jettison them is the same.
Title: Re: Jettison of Wg21 rocket rails
Post by: icepac on March 27, 2017, 05:58:11 PM
Boing!!!........Wish granted.


I did extensive testing and find no difference between 110g totally clean and after firing off rockets.
Title: Re: Jettison of Wg21 rocket rails
Post by: Dobs on March 28, 2017, 02:10:56 PM
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