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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: oboe on March 30, 2017, 01:33:27 PM
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This is Capt Felix Roger's "Beantown Banshee":
(http://i.imgur.com/7ld2xdG.jpg)
Capt Rogers flew with the 353rd FS of the 354th FG.
(http://i.imgur.com/HD98LDU.jpg)
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Beautiful. That exhaust rainbow is killer. The rudder ribbing and mottling are quite good.
Wow.
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(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff252/DropkickYankees/SweetJesus_zps67c71ac4.gif~original) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/DropkickYankees/media/SweetJesus_zps67c71ac4.gif.html)
Only adjustment I'd suggest is to desaturate the blue for the national insignia.
And that bottom screenshot needs to be plastered over everything official AH3 from today going forward.
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Agreed, Devil, on both counts.
That screenshot is amazing.
Reminds me of this:
(http://www.flightjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/coverRoyGRINNELLbook_small.jpg)
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Thanks guys. That look from the Grinnell painting - that's what I was going after. I've wanted to skin Beantown Banshee ever since I first saw that painting. AH3's graphics and terrain are amazing - that screen shot is totally untouched except to crop and add motion blur to the background, and a slight blur to the subject.
Devil can you suggest and RGB value for the blue in the insignia - or should I just desaturate until its basically almost black?
Sources for this skin were pretty sparse. I had the Grinnell painting, some photos of model kits people had built, and this photo:
(http://i.imgur.com/9oj2WBx.jpg)
That's all I could find. Looking closely at it, I think I need to add some more black background around the name in the noseart.
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Thanks guys. That look from the Grinnell painting - that's what I was going after. I've wanted to skin Beantown Banshee ever since I first saw that painting. AH3's graphics and terrain are amazing - that screen shot is totally untouched except to crop and add motion blur to the background, and a slight blur to the subject.
Devil can you suggest and RGB value for the blue in the insignia - or should I just desaturate until its basically almost black?
While waiting on D5 to respond...
Roy's painting has the insignia hue in it on the fuselage...
Beautiful skin. You nailed that screenshot.
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Devil can you suggest and RGB value for the blue in the insignia - or should I just desaturate until its basically almost black?
You want to gray out the blue more so than darken it. The insignia blue I used on my P-40's is RGB 49/57/67.
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Word to the wise: don't change half a sentence and then not proof read the whole thing. :devil
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You don't want to gray out the blue more so than darken it. The insignia blue I used on my P-40's is RGB 49/57/67.
It looks too dark to me as is. :headscratch:
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It looks too dark to me as is. :headscratch:
Yeah, the "don't" should not have been in there. :bhead
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Disregard,...I was thinking P51D when I made that post.
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Looking closely at it, I think I need to add some more black background around the name in the noseart.
Judging from the paining and picture, the black seems to appear darker - like it might match the black ring on the nose just past the yellow - but it seems like the size of it is about right, looks like you went pixel by pixel, very percise from the perspective of a non skinner.
Glad you finally got to do this one Oboe!
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Very nice Oboe
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Really nice work Oboe. Do you require any more photos of the aircraft? I can check my library and see if I have anything is so.
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:aok
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Very nice Oboe, the insignia blue looks a bit off to me too.
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Really nice work Oboe. Do you require any more photos of the aircraft? I can check my library and see if I have anything is so.
Yes, thanks - anything you can find would be much appreciated!
I'll check the blue. Might be time for a fresh insignia anyway - this one has been used forever and it looks a little ragged around the edges to me.
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I started looking through my books and haven't found anything yet. I did find an Osprey side view but it looked like your skin.
Will keep digging.
Here is one I had not seen before of Felix Rogers in his cockpit.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=386241.0;attach=27248)
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Interesting part is Jack Cook is an AH flyer. He should unleash his photo collection on this crowd
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He used to post to WIX but unfortunately a bad atmosphere stopped his posting there. I believe I did a relative of his F4U-1D.
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He used to post to WIX but unfortunately a bad atmosphere stopped his posting there. I believe I did a relative of his F4U-1D.
He has two groups on Facebook, one for the 9th AF and one for the 8th AF where he posts images. Also posts in the AH group on occasion.
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What's the status on this one, Oboe?
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Still a work-in-progress. I redid the under the nose panel lines based on a recent picture you posted I think - I didn't realized but the '51D panels lines were different under the '51D nose than they are on the '51B. The B has fewer panel sections underneath.
Still have lots of weathering details I want to add, and then of course the other maps - spec, normal, power, environment.
Played around a bit with the nose art of the other schemes I wanted to try - Snoot's Sniper of the 352nd and either Brother Bill or Bonnie Bea of the 339th too. I don't think there's room for all 3 though, so I'm just kind of stuck on that point.
Did you find another '51B you'd like to do?
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Do I have another B in mind? Not really. Besides, I think we have all silently/subliminally decided to leave the last B slot for you. You've earned it.
My advice is submit Banshee as-is. It's fantastic. Any improvements you have can be implemented by revision. As Devil said, it should be an advertising poster for AH3.
This skin needs to be in the game. No debate. Submit it. Improve it later (if that's even possible).
Good catch on the B panels, btw. I will look into that as I didn't notice.
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(http://i.imgur.com/wrvzABG.jpg)
Here's the picture I was talking about - you can see how the lower cowl panels are one piece sections that go completely underneath the nose from one side to the other. This is consistent with the panel drawings I have, which I had erroroneously interpreted as a lack of detail in the lower cowl sections:
(http://i.imgur.com/7L95gp4.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/28TjxxB.png)
So thanks for finding and posting that. In fact, I have to check again because I still may not have it quite right. Surprising how different the '51B is from the "D" version
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Nice line drawings. Wow. Definitely gonna' save those. :aok
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This drawing leads me to a question I have been trying to figure out for a bit.
If you look at the port (left) wing there is an oval access panel near where the national insignia is. On the D I don't see one on the starboard (right) wing. So...is this schematic wrong to show that panel on both wings or is this something that changed with the D?
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I checked the other panel line drawings I have for the B and if they show both wingtops, they show an oval panel on each wing. I agree its present only on one wing in the D (photographic evidence of that Italian AF museum aircraft). But I have no photos of the B's wingtops...
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I checked the other panel line drawings I have for the B and if they show both wingtops, they show an oval panel on each wing. I agree its present only on one wing in the D (photographic evidence of that Italian AF museum aircraft). But I have no photos of the B's wingtops...
Crikey. So I went and deleted them from all my Bs and probably didn't need to. :bhead
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Thanks to Fencer for the photo of the Felix Rogers, pilot of Beantown Banshee. Here's how the dummy P-51B pilot's makeover turned out:
(https://i.imgur.com/BmIh4O4.jpg)
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Spitting image. Well Done.
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Wow! That's outstanding. :aok
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Final version. Still seem to have that white washout bug.
(https://i.imgur.com/KsKZyJs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cnKNgQt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DdZr5zb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bJfHr1u.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ATjc9Ei.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zZRRUEe.jpg)
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Looking good.
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That's glorious.