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Title: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: 715 on April 09, 2017, 11:55:07 AM
I wish for increased depression angle on the 17 lber anti-tank guns.

For example, the one next to the spawn hanger of the hilly vehicle base literally has no shot on anything at all.  It is on a rise and all nearby spots for enemy tanks to show up are below the travel of the gun. You can drive right up to it with impunity. This is true to a lesser extent to many other 17 lbers (if you pick the proper approach path).
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: Lusche on April 09, 2017, 01:23:12 PM
And give the gunner the ability to actually look around. If necessary, by adding a 'commander' crew position.
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: hulk31st on April 09, 2017, 01:24:12 PM
 :aok

+1

 :salute
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: ONTOS on April 09, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
+1
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 09, 2017, 01:39:24 PM
And give the gunner the ability to actually look around. If necessary, by adding a 'commander' crew position.

....but make it so you can only shoot from the gunners spot. I think ALL guns GVs included should be set this way. Shooting for anything other than the gunners view (F3, commanders view and so on) should be disabled just like it is in fighters.
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: save on April 09, 2017, 02:51:56 PM
Ie, 95% less main-gunning at planes  :D
+100


....but make it so you can only shoot from the gunners spot. I think ALL guns GVs included should be set this way. Shooting for anything other than the gunners view (F3, commanders view and so on) should be disabled just like it is in fighters.
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: popeye on April 10, 2017, 08:32:47 AM
Yes.  Yes.

And cut down the trees that obstruct the view from the guns.
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: SPKmes on April 11, 2017, 04:38:53 PM
Also an ability to look around like a commanders position.....I know it has been asked for time and again
It's quite a thing traversing when you can hear the gv is close behind or to the side of you....am I gonna make.. :rofl
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: Sabre on April 12, 2017, 12:05:40 PM
+1 on all accounts.
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: bustr on April 12, 2017, 01:46:31 PM
Is it not meeting this specification for the Ordnance QF 17-pounder?

Elevation:    -6° to +16.5°
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: 715 on April 12, 2017, 06:54:45 PM
Is it not meeting this specification for the Ordnance QF 17-pounder?

Elevation:    -6° to +16.5°

No.  Offline in external view I measured 0.94 degree of depression (i.e. about 0.9 to 1.0 degree given the error possibilities of the measurement).
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: lunatic1 on April 12, 2017, 08:31:33 PM
+1 to all positive requests
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: bustr on April 12, 2017, 09:05:40 PM
No.  Offline in external view I measured 0.94 degree of depression (i.e. about 0.9 to 1.0 degree given the error possibilities of the measurement).

You are a badddd man. Now I need to find a manual for it to see how the azimuth movement is accomplished.
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: lyric1 on April 13, 2017, 04:54:50 PM
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/17pdr-4_zpss5nhk6mb.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/17pdr-4_zpss5nhk6mb.jpg.html)

In the video there is a sequence where the gun has the ability to partially pivot somewhat independent to the locked wheel base.
Clearly rotation speed in AHIII is now in question.  :devil


There is also some slew left to right via a hand crank just for the gun, independent to the above mentioned ability to partially rotate the gun base. All of this without the wheels ever moving  :aok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosCsRbAADg



Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: bustr on April 13, 2017, 05:39:40 PM
You are an even baddddeeerrrr man...... :O
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: lyric1 on April 13, 2017, 06:14:31 PM
You are an even baddddeeerrrr man...... :O

This video says it had 60 degrees of traverse.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WK5XrYpIFw
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: Scca on April 14, 2017, 07:58:49 AM
+1

On vehicle fields, manned 17's are almost useless.  Can't point down towards ground targets close by, anywhere off base is shrouded by trees... 
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: Copprhed on April 15, 2017, 07:33:38 AM
Hell, I'm always depressed when I'm in a 17 pounder.... :bolt:
Title: Re: More depression on 17 lbers
Post by: RODBUSTR on April 22, 2017, 05:14:15 PM
 The main defense for anti tank guns is low profile and concealment,   Putting the up on berms is as poor design as having trees blocking guns line of fire,,,It would never happen in reality....