General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: BFOOT1 on April 12, 2017, 06:08:56 PM
Title: So it happened...
Post by: BFOOT1 on April 12, 2017, 06:08:56 PM
As a teacher I had my first blow up with a student. I've went the entire year, held my tongue, lost my patience. This girl is the most rude, disrespectful, obnoxious, piece of work I've ever seen. She is so rude to her peers and to her teachers. Well today I had personally had enough. The last class of the day is World History from 1499-Present. As I'm introducing, This Day in History, per usual, she just starts talking about her overdramatic love life. I politely ask her to stop and listen, but noooooooooo she kept on going and that when I felt Mt. Vesevius 2.0 about to happen. So I waited, took a deep breath, and continued. Well she finally stopped talking and then we started the instruction on the Industrial Revolution. So as I start she thinks it's okay to sit beside her so called friend and start talking again about pointless drama. While the rest of the class was listening and taking notes I decided to let her talk, because I had a devious plan up my sleeve...POP QUIZ.
While the rest of the class aced the quiz she did not. So to continue, after the quiz the students continued work on a project for creating their own inventions, much like those of the industrial revolution. It was then I over heard this girl talking about sexual things, and what she thought of me. At the point I kicked her out of class and forced her to work in the hallway. When she came back in after class ended I made her stay. I told this girl in a raised voice how disrespectful she truly was, and that she had the audacity to disrespect me in front of the entire class. I then told her that until further notice she lost all electronic privileges and had to sit by herself from now on. I then continued on about how I've attempted to have patience with her, but I lost it because of her sorry a** attitude, and her respect. I continued on telling her that if she didn't learn to respect authority that she was eventually just going to be another statistic for females in prison. Keep in mind she's reared up at this point, but I didn't care. I then went on and told her that if she continued disrespecting myself and her peers, and continued being as rude as possible that she would quickly find herself alone and afraid with no one there to help her.
Then I told her to leave my class and I expected better out of a young lady not a wannabe thug.
Was I harsh? Yes.
Was I out of line? Maybe.
Do I care? Yes. As a teacher it's my job to care for all my students, regardless of the hell they give me. I want to see them all succeed. Are they all gonna succeed? No, but I can damn sure try.
Sorry for the rant, carry on :salute
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Devil 505 on April 12, 2017, 07:17:27 PM
She reminds me of a classmate , "Jenn" when I was in the 7th grade. This girl was outright obnoxious and the teacher of our social studies class eventually resorted to having a stack of prefilled in-school detention slips with "Jenn's" name on them and would simply hand one to "Jenn" at the start of class and send her to the vice-principal's office. It was not until many years later that I realized the passive-aggressive brilliance of the teacher's method.
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: JimmyD3 on April 12, 2017, 08:33:42 PM
Well done sir!! Kids today have no concept of "actions have consequences". But I would suspect she also has other issues based on the lack of home discipline she obviously has. :furious
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: BFOOT1 on April 12, 2017, 09:00:41 PM
Yes the mother has no control over the child what so ever.
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Meatwad on April 12, 2017, 09:07:15 PM
Guessing on how she acts during class, hopefully it wont escalate with the higher ups if she plays the race card
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Spikes on April 12, 2017, 09:10:54 PM
Just have to be careful with all the crap going on today. People are so thin skinned and who knows what her parents would do. Just be sure you have proof or the school's backing.
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Devil 505 on April 12, 2017, 09:25:55 PM
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Vulcan on April 13, 2017, 05:35:23 AM
You need to watch that BBC doco on teenagers brains getting rewired during puberty. The watch The Breakfast Club. Both put things into perspective a bit.
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Shuffler on April 13, 2017, 09:07:58 AM
As a teacher I had my first blow up with a student. I've went the entire year, held my tongue, lost my patience. This girl is the most rude, disrespectful, obnoxious, piece of work I've ever seen. She is so rude to her peers and to her teachers. Well today I had personally had enough. The last class of the day is World History from 1499-Present. As I'm introducing, This Day in History, per usual, she just starts talking about her overdramatic love life. I politely ask her to stop and listen, but noooooooooo she kept on going and that when I felt Mt. Vesevius 2.0 about to happen. So I waited, took a deep breath, and continued. Well she finally stopped talking and then we started the instruction on the Industrial Revolution. So as I start she thinks it's okay to sit beside her so called friend and start talking again about pointless drama. While the rest of the class was listening and taking notes I decided to let her talk, because I had a devious plan up my sleeve...POP QUIZ.
While the rest of the class aced the quiz she did not. So to continue, after the quiz the students continued work on a project for creating their own inventions, much like those of the industrial revolution. It was then I over heard this girl talking about sexual things, and what she thought of me. At the point I kicked her out of class and forced her to work in the hallway. When she came back in after class ended I made her stay. I told this girl in a raised voice how disrespectful she truly was, and that she had the audacity to disrespect me in front of the entire class. I then told her that until further notice she lost all electronic privileges and had to sit by herself from now on. I then continued on about how I've attempted to have patience with her, but I lost it because of her sorry a** attitude, and her respect. I continued on telling her that if she didn't learn to respect authority that she was eventually just going to be another statistic for females in prison. Keep in mind she's reared up at this point, but I didn't care. I then went on and told her that if she continued disrespecting myself and her peers, and continued being as rude as possible that she would quickly find herself alone and afraid with no one there to help her.
Then I told her to leave my class and I expected better out of a young lady not a wannabe thug.
Was I harsh? Yes.
Was I out of line? Maybe.
Do I care? Yes. As a teacher it's my job to care for all my students, regardless of the hell they give me. I want to see them all succeed. Are they all gonna succeed? No, but I can damn sure try.
Sorry for the rant, carry on :salute
Sad that our teachers are tasked with the results of poor parenting. So are the other students.
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Ripsnort on April 13, 2017, 09:30:12 AM
I suggest we have a federal program for all toddlers begin in pre-k go through HS, a new program where they learn discipline. Beatings will be allowed by teachers and parents alike.
We'll have 8 virtues we start braining the children so that they'll behave for our teachers in school.
Rectitude or Justice training Courage class Benevolence or Mercy training Politeness training Honesty and sincerity training Honor class Loyalty Character and Self-Control
Let's call it Bushido.
And then wait a couple of generations and see how they turn out. :uhoh
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: SlipKnt on April 13, 2017, 11:35:16 AM
Dude... You went too easy on her.
I'd have the entire class put their electronics in the box at the door when they walk into class. They can get it back when they leave.
Regarding that student...
March her butt to the principle's office. You don't have the time for that crap. You tried once. Don't let it go if it happens again. It is not your job to parent her. But it is your job, as a mentor to guide her correctly. And at this point, consequences is where she needs to be guided. The consequences of her action in class would be, you get to go have a visit with the Principle.
Eventually she learns from it or she resists and spends all of her free time in detention.
In fact, you can, and you seem to have to, be tough on her. You can, let her know that it is for her own good and if she ever needs a safe place to discuss things, your door is always open, however if not you then seek the school counselor.
You go this!!!
:rock
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: BFOOT1 on April 13, 2017, 11:44:41 AM
Here's the thing, the way the school system is setup there is a 'point' system that is followed for behavior, and before I take them to the office, and administration the student has to be on that point. Like if it takes 5 points for them to go to the office, then I have to wait for the 5th point :mad:
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: jimbo71 on April 13, 2017, 12:42:35 PM
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Gman on April 13, 2017, 08:12:38 PM
Question BFoot- what are "electronic privileges". I always wondered what school rules would be on modern tech. WHen I was in high school the C64/Amiga with "Geos" as its basic works/processing package was the latest/greatest new thing, and if you snuck a calculator into an exam when you weren't supposed to have it, you could be expelled. Considering the teaching/learning power of laptops for students, and now phones/hand held wonder computers, are students allowed to use these while at school? Obviously if that answer is yes, there would have to be some sort of restrictions otherwise they'd be Facebooking all day. Just interested in how that works...
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: BFOOT1 on April 13, 2017, 08:19:16 PM
Well students have access to almost any internet source, minus pornsites. So what I've done is taken her phone, and I have add the media assistant restrict all social media on her school computer :D
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Rich46yo on April 13, 2017, 09:03:12 PM
I once had an elementary student stick a knife in her teacher. Other times they bring guns to school, "and not for deer hunting". This is 1st thru 8th grade schools.
The Catholic grade schools I went to would hit you upside your head for talking in class. And then you'd spend the next hour begging Jesus to intervene and not have them call home to let the old man know
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: 8thJinx on April 13, 2017, 09:10:08 PM
I was a bit of a bastard when I was in 3rd through 5th grade. Not consciously disrespectful, more of a class clown. I would do anything for a laugh. Got in tons of trouble, lots of detention. Always disrupting class with some clowning, almost every day. I vividly remember the principal - a WW2 marine pilot - still sporting his high-and-tight, dragging me from one end of the school property to the other by the hair because of one stunt. And it was nothing my parents did or didn't do. They were/are the best, no problem dishing out discipline. The thing that turned me around was my 5th grade teacher sitting me in a desk at the back of the room with cardboard walls on 3 sides (we called it the 'box') for an entire year. I couldn't see the rest of the class, and could barely see her. I doubt they'd allow that now. It worked though. I found my focus, turned into a straight A student, got a free ride to a university on an academic scholarship, and I run my own little engineering firm now. To this day I credit my 5th grade teacher with setting me on the right path.
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Gman on April 13, 2017, 09:27:52 PM
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And then you'd spend the next hour begging Jesus to intervene and not have them call home to let the old man know
Hah, nice to see they kept an equal/current curriculum on both sides of the border.
In detention we would get a rosarie while doing the stress/kneeling in the desk...mind you I wasn't Catholic, so had NO idea wth I was doing with it, but I would copy other kids and just mumble inaudibly and go through the motions to fit in, and hope it didn't get any worse...
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: zack1234 on April 14, 2017, 03:54:15 AM
Your a TEACHER?
whats the DISCUSSION about?
You RAISED your voice?
I would have said OUT in a very very very loud voice
Got the parents in and read them the riot act
This is it in a nutshell DISCUSSING with students whats that about?
Have you had job before becoming a teacher?
Whats this about students having A point of view? Its a democracy? I dont think so
You should have to have a real job for fives years before your even aloud to start training to be a teacher.
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Kanth on April 14, 2017, 09:29:35 AM
I would have said OUT in a very very very loud voice
Got the parents in and read them the riot act
This is it in a nutshell DISCUSSING with students whats that about?
Have you had job before becoming a teacher?
Whats this about students having A point of view? Its a democracy? I dont think so
You should have to have a real job for fives years before your even aloud to start training to be a teacher.
Your teacher failed.
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: zack1234 on April 15, 2017, 01:37:17 AM
The truth hurts does it?
This walt disney view of the world and teachers who want to be mentors and friends of the pupils.
1. Teachers 2. Goto to nursery 3. Goto to school 4. Goto to high school 5. Goto to university 6. Goto to teacher training college 7. Go back to school to teach
Not exactly the best people to explain how the real world work, they never grow up
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Guppy35 on April 15, 2017, 12:18:43 PM
Zack I know you like to BS, but if for even a second you meant what you just wrote, I will have to write you off as clueless. That's speaking as the father of an absolutely amazing teacher. To suggest that she doesn't have any idea of the world, is ridiculous. You have no clue about what people who are teachers have experienced in their lives or their backgrounds.
So I'm going to write your comment off as just Zack being Zack as I firmly believe you are smarter than your previous comment.
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: Arlo on April 15, 2017, 12:42:45 PM
As a teacher I had my first blow up with a student. I've went the entire year, held my tongue, lost my patience. This girl is the most rude, disrespectful, obnoxious, piece of work I've ever seen. She is so rude to her peers and to her teachers. Well today I had personally had enough. The last class of the day is World History from 1499-Present. As I'm introducing, This Day in History, per usual, she just starts talking about her overdramatic love life. I politely ask her to stop and listen, but noooooooooo she kept on going and that when I felt Mt. Vesevius 2.0 about to happen. So I waited, took a deep breath, and continued. Well she finally stopped talking and then we started the instruction on the Industrial Revolution. So as I start she thinks it's okay to sit beside her so called friend and start talking again about pointless drama. While the rest of the class was listening and taking notes I decided to let her talk, because I had a devious plan up my sleeve...POP QUIZ.
While the rest of the class aced the quiz she did not. So to continue, after the quiz the students continued work on a project for creating their own inventions, much like those of the industrial revolution. It was then I over heard this girl talking about sexual things, and what she thought of me. At the point I kicked her out of class and forced her to work in the hallway. When she came back in after class ended I made her stay. I told this girl in a raised voice how disrespectful she truly was, and that she had the audacity to disrespect me in front of the entire class. I then told her that until further notice she lost all electronic privileges and had to sit by herself from now on. I then continued on about how I've attempted to have patience with her, but I lost it because of her sorry a** attitude, and her respect. I continued on telling her that if she didn't learn to respect authority that she was eventually just going to be another statistic for females in prison. Keep in mind she's reared up at this point, but I didn't care. I then went on and told her that if she continued disrespecting myself and her peers, and continued being as rude as possible that she would quickly find herself alone and afraid with no one there to help her.
Then I told her to leave my class and I expected better out of a young lady not a wannabe thug.
Was I harsh? Yes.
Was I out of line? Maybe.
Do I care? Yes. As a teacher it's my job to care for all my students, regardless of the hell they give me. I want to see them all succeed. Are they all gonna succeed? No, but I can damn sure try.
Sorry for the rant, carry on :salute
Worst porn movie script, ever.
Well, maybe not.
Seriously, though - I feel for ya.
And history? Excellent! :)
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: mthrockmor on April 15, 2017, 01:18:11 PM
Have you read the book "Teach Like a Champion"? It's all about how to handle those situations.
Boo
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: zack1234 on April 15, 2017, 05:05:54 PM
Zack I know you like to BS, but if for even a second you meant what you just wrote, I will have to write you off as clueless. That's speaking as the father of an absolutely amazing teacher. To suggest that she doesn't have any idea of the world, is ridiculous. You have no clue about what people who are teachers have experienced in their lives or their backgrounds.
So I'm going to write your comment off as just Zack being Zack as I firmly believe you are smarter than your previous comment.
I apologise :old:
Title: Re: So it happened...
Post by: ghi on April 15, 2017, 11:18:52 PM