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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Vulcan on April 22, 2017, 05:45:49 PM
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Just a general warning for all.
My 6 month old Saitek X-55 has started to 'lose' buttons on the throttle, some only work when the throttle is in a certain position. A bit of googling shows there is a design flaw where the wiring to the buttons starts to break internally due to the throttle movement. It sounds like the X-56 has the exact same internals.
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had mine for over 2 years still works as when I bought it.
semp
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Mine works well as well !!
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I suggest you guys have a google, maybe it's only models made in the last 12 months but there is definitely an issue with them.
Mines under warranty still so I'm lucky. This is what people are reporting:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HNdpztFMLSI/maxresdefault.jpg)
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I suggest you guys have a google, maybe it's only models made in the last 12 months but there is definitely an issue with them.
Mines under warranty still so I'm lucky. This is what people are reporting:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HNdpztFMLSI/maxresdefault.jpg)
Ah, a picture is worth a thousand words........................ ...
:salute
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Well that would explain it! Stuff cut mighty clean didn't it?
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Just a general warning for all.
My 6 month old Saitek X-55 has started to 'lose' buttons on the throttle, some only work when the throttle is in a certain position. A bit of googling shows there is a design flaw where the wiring to the buttons starts to break internally due to the throttle movement. It sounds like the X-56 has the exact same internals.
Thanks for posting Vulcan. I'm in the market for a new twisty stick and for the life of me can't seem to decide between the X55 or a VKB Gladiator (and just use my x52 throttle) Definately food for thought
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mine x56 is almost 3 months old and works perfect sofar ...
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Mine have had problems for the last year. I have two 55s. One has switches and buttons randomly activated during throttle movement, the other actively shocks my hand on occasion. 10/10 would not buy Saitek again...
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Thanks for posting Vulcan. I'm in the market for a new twisty stick and for the life of me can't seem to decide between the X55 or a VKB Gladiator (and just use my x52 throttle) Definately food for thought
I'm Using the VKB Gladiator and my old x-52 throttle ..... love it . The Vkb stick really helped smooth out my nose bounce i had with old microsoft sticks ( kept finding new precision pro 2's lol) I was using. The only thing I had to get used to was the hat switch location on the VKB...its off set as im sure you have seen. It is a bit awkward if you are used to a center located hat like i was used to.... Other than that, I love the VKB stick.
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That VBK stick looks great. If they have the dual throttle developed by years end, then I know what Santa's bringing :D. I never even heard of them before.
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VKB sticks is the better choice.
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VKB sticks is the better choice.
+1 - it's what will replace my current X-52 sticks I have.
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funny how nobody is mentioning the ch sticks anymore.
semp
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Soon as that new grip is available I'm snagging a gunfighter.
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Is CH even in the joystick business really anymore? Can't even buy spare parts from them anymore... :old:
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I saw a Fighterstick and throttle on Amazon so I guess they're still sold. You can reach out on the CHHangar forums to find parts. There used to be a company rep there that would just send you springs or pots if ya needed em. Don't know if that's still the case.
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funny how nobody is mentioning the ch sticks anymore
I've tried everything, (I think)but WartHog and VKB.
Having said that, I use a old CH stick, throttle and rudders.
I wish CH made a dual throttle (not the quadrant) and I'd stay CH.
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I think madcatz is out of business and Logitech has taken the saitech brand
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I've tried everything, (I think)but WartHog and VKB.
Having said that, I use a old CH stick, throttle and rudders.
I wish CH made a dual throttle (not the quadrant) and I'd stay CH.
If I could figure out a way to convert my now pretty long in the tooth CH gear to contactless sensors like are found in the more modern stuff I'd stay with them too. You'd wonder why they don't come out with that themselves? I just hate having to tear it down to service the pots and you only get so many times you can do that before they're just shot. Nothing wrong with the gimbal itself, just the sensors.
I'm gonna snag a VKB gunfighter soon. When I do I think I'll buy one of the cheapie TM sticks with the contactless sensors, dissect it and try to make a hybrid CH/TM stick. Just to say I did hehe. I'm a wrench turner with geek mode!
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If I could figure out a way to convert my now pretty long in the tooth CH gear to contactless sensors like are found in the more modern stuff I'd stay with them too. You'd wonder why they don't come out with that themselves? I just hate having to tear it down to service the pots and you only get so many times you can do that before they're just shot. Nothing wrong with the gimbal itself, just the sensors.
I'm gonna snag a VKB gunfighter soon. When I do I think I'll buy one of the cheapie TM sticks with the contactless sensors, dissect it and try to make a hybrid CH/TM stick. Just to say I did hehe. I'm a wrench turner with geek mode!
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Would a Saitek X-55 have the sensors you need?
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Think so. Looking for hall effect type sensors with their USB controller. My plan is to physically swap the pots with those sensors if I can. I'll mount the USB controller outside as I'd doubt there would be room for both controllers within the base of the stick without causing some interference issue actually moving the stick. I'd do away with the pot connections on the CH controller and leave that as it is now using it only for the buttons on the stick. Now I'll have one stick with two separate controllers. One for the buttons, the other for the x/you axis. AH would see both of them. If it'd work theoretically it'd work.
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Think so. Looking for hall effect type sensors with their USB controller. My plan is to physically swap the pots with those sensors if I can. I'll mount the USB controller outside as I'd doubt there would be room for both controllers within the base of the stick without causing some interference issue actually moving the stick. I'd do away with the pot connections on the CH controller and leave that as it is now using it only for the buttons on the stick. Now I'll have one stick with two separate controllers. One for the buttons, the other for the x/you axis. AH would see both of them. If it'd work theoretically it'd work.
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I've got a proposal for you! If you think you can fix the faulty wiring in an X55, I'll send you both of mine, fix one keep the other?
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That'd be cool but it's not like it'd be a top priority project with summer coming. Good rainy day with nothing else to do.
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FWIW, I still like my CH sticks. I had a spiking issue with my new one, and they sent me 2 free new pots, but it turns out all I had to do was clean the old pot (soak in isopropyl alcohol and blow out with a compressor). So I have 2 spare pots. Since I've never had to replace a pot (for at least 10 years, but see "rod" wear issue below), I see no need for hall effect sensors. I do like my CH Combat Stick better than the new T-16000M I just bought, as the latter is a bit sticky, and reportedly gets more so with age.
Note that the new CH sticks have an internal polished metal rod at the base of the shaft, presumably to fix the wear issue. Wear on the plastic rod on my old Combat Stick is what motivated me to buy the new one. I plan to do a mechanical repair on the old one, and also surgery to make it left-handed, for use in another on-line game (SC).
MH
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Think so. Looking for hall effect type sensors with their USB controller. My plan is to physically swap the pots with those sensors if I can. I'll mount the USB controller outside as I'd doubt there would be room for both controllers within the base of the stick without causing some interference issue actually moving the stick. I'd do away with the pot connections on the CH controller and leave that as it is now using it only for the buttons on the stick. Now I'll have one stick with two separate controllers. One for the buttons, the other for the x/you axis. AH would see both of them. If it'd work theoretically it'd work.
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