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Title: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: JimmyD3 on April 26, 2017, 11:03:38 PM
Just wishing that HT would do something about the little Lemon/Orange trees that keep stopping GV's. :pray
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: Devil 505 on April 26, 2017, 11:10:09 PM
If they're so little, how do you not miss them? We're not talking about going around a giant sequoia.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: JimmyD3 on April 26, 2017, 11:14:26 PM
its not one or two its a whole cluster of them, you can drive through them slow as long as you don't catch a teeny weeny branch. Besides they are smaller than the bamboo poles we drive through. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: ML52 on April 27, 2017, 01:01:41 AM
Plus they are behind trees you can drive through then wham. Did they not have roads and farms in WW2?
 
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: DubiousKB on April 27, 2017, 10:17:09 AM
Plus they are behind trees you can drive through then wham. Did they not have roads and farms in WW2?

They did not have dedicated map makers generating the terrain on which you fight in WWII.

So just make a note and move on, especially if you're not willing to work on the editor process to assist in solving these challenges.  We have like a hand full of the community who tries to create new maps for us because HTC and co has not been churning out new maps like they are candy corn since the update.

Yeah, it is painful to attempt to drive vehicles any distance on the some of the new maps... ... and I hate Lemons... :devil

Personally, I'd rather see the lumberjacks work on the trees at the ends of runways as opposed to going all fruity and attacking the Lemon/Orange trees.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: Randy1 on April 27, 2017, 11:04:29 AM
Just wishing that HT would do something about the little Lemon/Orange trees that keep stopping GV's. :pray

I agree for the most part.  It is of course the absurdity of a tree that small stopping a tank.  I have orange and lemon trees.  When they are that size, my pickup truck could, with a small, running start, drive over them.  Bigger, older trees could be a problem for a tank.

That being said, as a barrier, maze, and good hiding spot, they do offer a nice touch to GV action.  It is the cross country trips that really piss you off when they snag you.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: bustr on April 27, 2017, 12:23:50 PM
Ok you are on a Pacific tile set. Hitech can set trees and bushes to collide or pass you through. Bushes and the bamboo for that tile set I've tested, and they are pass through. I think Hitech mentioned that he sets the collision mesh for trees 4ft out from the trunk. I suppose it's a global setting for all trees over a certain size and other plants he tags as pass through. Are those citrus trees leaf canopy about 8ft in diameter?
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: JimmyD3 on April 27, 2017, 08:04:50 PM
Ok you are on a Pacific tile set. Hitech can set trees and bushes to collide or pass you through. Bushes and the bamboo for that tile set I've tested, and they are pass through. I think Hitech mentioned that he sets the collision mesh for trees 4ft out from the trunk. I suppose it's a global setting for all trees over a certain size and other plants he tags as pass through. Are those citrus trees leaf canopy about 8ft in diameter?

No, they are just about the same height as an M3.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: SPKmes on April 27, 2017, 09:21:29 PM
I could take them out with my 20kg lawn mower
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: Randy1 on April 28, 2017, 07:11:40 AM
I could take them out with my 20kg lawn mower

Trees about the size in the game would have about a 3-4" diameter trunk
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: bustr on April 28, 2017, 11:07:27 AM
Randy it's the collision mask which is the same size across all trees Hitech tags it to. If the citrus tree branch tips are stopping you, then the total diameter of the citrus tree canopy fits inside of the collision mesh. Think circle inside of a square.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: pembquist on April 28, 2017, 01:01:36 PM
I get that there are constraints with it being a computer game and all but i think it is still an area that would make the game feel a little more real. The sad fact is that if you did have trees that didn't feel gamey no one would notice and it would be taken for granted. At least now your rounds go through the leaves, I can't quite tell if it alters the trajectory or not but it is a nice feature.

I wish that the weird cactus rubble field wasn't so drastic, with my settings I can't even see it but it comes off more as an annoyance than as a challenge or strategy modifier. Let me rephrase that: it is a fun killer.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: Randy1 on April 28, 2017, 02:14:26 PM
One interesting point we have not thought about.  Lemon trees and some orange trees have 1"-3" needle like thorns.  They can go right through a leather glove.  In the command position you would not want to drive through any of these branches.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: popeye on April 28, 2017, 02:24:33 PM
One interesting point we have not thought about.  Lemon trees and some orange trees have 1"-3" needle like thorns.  They can go right through a leather glove.  In the command position you would not want to drive through any of these branches.

Ouch!

I would be cool if there were random hornet nests that would fall into the careless Wirb who bumped the tree he was hiding under.   :D
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: JimmyD3 on April 29, 2017, 10:31:20 AM
Ouch!

I would be cool if there were random hornet nests that would fall into the careless Wirb who bumped the tree he was hiding under.   :D

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: icepac on April 29, 2017, 04:52:09 PM
The current trees allow a superior driver to bust through spawn camps a lot easier than before.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: JimmyD3 on April 30, 2017, 03:16:42 PM
The current trees allow a superior driver to bust through spawn camps a lot easier than before.

 :rofl And I suppose that "superior driver" would be you? :devil

Nice try icepac but like it or not the trees are broken. :cheers:
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: bustr on April 30, 2017, 06:04:16 PM
The current trees have a collision mesh space set by Hitech. Your wish is to ask him to make the collision mesh area smaller. Other wish are you reporting a bug?? Or just your feelings about something?
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: lunatic1 on April 30, 2017, 07:45:45 PM
my problem is a 30 ton tank being stopped by a tree limb no bigger than your pinkie finger, or even smaller. you think your clear but you get stopped all of a sudden and you look around and it's a single piece of branch/limb that has stopped you-this problem was not prevalent in AH2.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: bustr on May 01, 2017, 10:30:09 AM
Dear Hitech as usual it's all about emotions because you are the bad guy making victims out of your customers is their feeling. I've rarely seen you respond to emotional invectives mascarading as a game wish.

Wish:

If it is possible, can the collision mesh for the trees be made smaller so lunatic and company stops busting a gasket? I'm not sure if that is good for their blood pressure in their current delicate emotional conditions.

Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: icepac on May 01, 2017, 07:52:46 PM
:rofl And I suppose that "superior driver" would be you? :devil

Nice try icepac but like it or not the trees are broken. :cheers:

Go Kart tracks, grocery store, those remote control boats...................The story ends with me putting him into the wall.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: JimmyD3 on May 01, 2017, 09:53:57 PM
Go Kart tracks, grocery store, those remote control boats...................The story ends with me putting him into the wall.

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: SPKmes on May 01, 2017, 11:36:15 PM
Dear Hitech as usual it's all about emotions because you are the bad guy making victims out of your customers is their feeling. I've rarely seen you respond to emotional invectives mascarading as a game wish.

Wish:

If it is possible, can the collision mesh for the trees be made smaller so lunatic and company stops busting a gasket? I'm not sure if that is good for their blood pressure in their current delicate emotional conditions.

You call it mesh...we call it a pain in the buttocks (we can't all be as eloquent as some).... either way you know and we know that this butmess  ;) thing is in some cases a little on the 'oh are you for #@^%^$#@)&(*&$@!#%^%%$^&&(*(&%# real side....people wish in many different ways..... it is in the wish list so it must be a wish.....
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: Scca on May 02, 2017, 11:37:03 AM
I have to agree that the fruit trees seem to be more inclined to stop a tank when it shouldn't.  It's a user satisfaction thing, and it's upsetting people.  Will people leave the game for this one reason?  Not likely, but it may be a straw that breaks the camels back, and likely could be fixed... 

YMMV
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: JimmyC on May 09, 2017, 02:47:15 AM
If life gives you lemons....

turn quickly
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: Nosara on May 31, 2017, 04:37:05 PM
Thunk, go,thunk,go,thunk...
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: Randy1 on June 02, 2017, 12:50:55 PM
In VR these trees are very difficult to steer through.  You would think it would be easier but it is very hard.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: Wiley on June 02, 2017, 03:01:49 PM
My solution is to fly a plane.  Trees stop being an issue.   :devil  :bolt:

Wiley.
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: JimmyC on June 02, 2017, 04:04:00 PM
I beg to differ..
Trees are annoying while in plane...they reach out and grab you..
or its those pesky squirrels
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: Mongoose on June 02, 2017, 08:44:43 PM
Nice try icepac but like it or not the trees are broken. :cheers:

  I thought the problem was that the trees won't break.   :bolt:
Title: Re: Lemon & Orange tree hazards
Post by: lunatic1 on June 04, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
If they're so little, how do you not miss them? We're not talking about going around a giant sequoia.
because they are not staggered, you would know that if you gv'ed any time. they come in large patches and most times you have to pick ypur way through them.