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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Flench on May 04, 2017, 02:35:30 PM
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I see I can watch more channels and not have to pay the unreal money these companys charge by just getting an Android box and run Zodi and a few other's to get free TV , Do I need to run a VPN service if I do this ? I pay $80 a month and get less than 30 chanels . Now that's a rip off . I am new to all this so please any help would be great . Thx
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When I 'cut the cord', I went with a Roku (https://www.roku.com/index) device, which seems to be one of the best supported streaming devices around. Then I added an over the air antennae with a Tablo (https://www.tablotv.com/) DVR.
The Tablo has a Roku channel, which allows all of it to be controlled using the Roku remote.
I really like the search capability of the Roku as it will search all the channels you have subscribed to for the content you want, by actor or by title.
I added Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime for the premium streaming content channels.
And that's it. It is a different world, but once you get used to it, it is hard to go back to regular broadcast television.
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Thank you Skuzzy . These satalite people are just a rip off and my contract is up . This is the kind of info I have been looking for . Thanks again.
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Good luck with it.
By the way, I started slowly. First adding the Roku to one television, then to the other one. Then the antennae, then the Tablo.
The only reason I have over the air channels is for sports.
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Hulu is coming out with their own setup now too. It is all coming to a head as far as having 200 channels and only 10 or less are worth watching. Such a waste supporting garbage TV.
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Is roku a streaming on demand service? Or does it have channels that play on a schedule like normal cable?
I know it's a bit absurd, but the reason I pay for cable (having a Netflix and Hulu account as well) is because quite often I don't want to have to think about what to watch and would like to just go with "whatever is on"
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Hulu is an interesting company. ABC, Fox, and NBC (working from memory here. I know CBS is not part of the group) have a stake in Hulu so they have some big money behind them. I am watching their content roll out to see how well it does.
The thing that has me paying attention to it all is the quality of the native content coming from Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime. They are doing things broadcast television in the U.S. will never do.
Is roku a streaming on demand service? Or does it have channels that play on a schedule like normal cable?
I know it's a bit absurd, but the reason I pay for cable (having a Netflix and Hulu account as well) is because quite often I don't want to have to think about what to watch and would like to just go with "whatever is on"
Roku is a streaming device which acts like a portal to the world of streaming content. They list hundreds of channels (they have the largest catalog of channels) and you can pick whatever you want to subscribe to. Many are free, some are not. The Roku itself has no recurring charge.
You can manage all your streaming channels via the Roku.
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Your so right Shuffler , All 200 I get are trying to sell something . While the Guys that are with Diretv and Dish is setting on a boat somewhere enjoying life to the max .
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I don't get it, I've wanted to cut the cable for awhile, but, you still need "Comcast" to drive the internet to drive a Hulu or Roku no? I'm so confused!
PS the antennas don't work in my area (west of Chicago) to much interference even with the amplifier, I always laugh when I see the commercial that pictures the guy out in the boat saying "see you can even get reception out here" well duh that's the best place for it not much inference over the water
PPS Our local Comcast used to have TV as a separate line on the bill about 40% of the total bill Cable Internet being the 60%, nowadays TV is $2.99 internet is the balance, they've taken away the incentive to switch.
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The Internet service, without the television subscription is much, much cheaper, here.
Yes, you need high speed Internet in order to use a streaming device, but having an Internet connection is going to happen anyway, so it is not an adder.
There are streaming solutions to not being able to use an antennae. None of them are free. SlingTV is about the best alternative if you cannot get over the air broadcasts.
Cutting the cord saved us about 85% of what it used to cost to have a subscription service.
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Kodi
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The Internet service, without the television subscription is much, much cheaper, here.
Yes, you need high speed Internet in order to use a streaming device, but having an Internet connection is going to happen anyway, so it is not an adder.
There are streaming solutions to not being able to use an antennae. None of them are free. SlingTV is about the best alternative if you cannot get over the air broadcasts.
Thanks, the only other alternative would have been ATT's U Verse but for some reason they've never brought it to my area, so only standard low speed DSL is here. Comcast owns my block
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Kodi
Kodi is more a media player and does not offer much in the way of streaming service/channel access, unless a lot has changed recently.
I did a ton of research trying to figure the landscape of streaming services and channels. My personal goal was to bring together a seamless solution for over the air broadcasts and streaming content. Roku was a no-brainer. Best supported streaming device there is. Everyone supports it.
Tablo, due to it working over the network and not relying on a television connection. It also requires me to provide the hard disk storage, which is the component most likely to fail. So when it does, I can fix it myself.
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I have looked at cutting the cable a few times. Eventually I will. I have directv where 35% of the channels are spanish, 30% are just advertisements all day and night, 30% are just garbage that you can't really put in a group, 5% is watchable.
I have Ruku and forget about it from time to time. I use it to watch movies....... lots of movies. I do not pay for any content over it.... yet anyway.
More power to those of you who have taken the step!!!
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It is not for everyone. You have to make the decision if losing certain channels is a deal breaker, or not.
I miss the SyFy stuff as they do not stream their popular shows until the season is over, but I am glad we made the switch. I am seeing stuff I never would have seen had I not made the switch.
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AT&T just run fiber to my house yesterday and WOW is it fast .
Skuzzy , witch Roku unit did you get ? I like the best one they have at 100 and somethng bucks but it looks to be the best one to get .
EDIT: And what about these Androide boxes I see on Ebay . Well they do the same thing ? I just don't want to get into any trouble downloading movies and so on . Why I was asking about a VPN service .
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I have three of these: https://www.roku.com/products/roku-premiere-plus
My house is wired so I am able to plug into my LAN at each television upstairs and downstairs.
No, those Android boxes will not compare to the Roku. They will offer a subset of what the Roku can access. Anything you stream over the Roku will be legal.
I only do legal.
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I have three of these: https://www.roku.com/products/roku-premiere-plus
My house is wired so I am able to plug into my LAN at each television upstairs and downstairs.
No, those Android boxes will not compare to the Roku. They will offer a subset of what the Roku can access. Anything you stream over the Roku will be legal.
I only do legal.
GREAT ... Thank you Skuzzy . I can only aford to do legal now day's myself . Why I am asking here . I know if anyone would know it be here . We got so smart guys here .
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Kodi
Been using this for several years,you need unlimited internet or you will go over the set limit very easy!
I dont live in the US so things are somewhat different here,we call it the grey market..... :devil
Early satellite systems were much the same way here.
If I lived in the US I'd like get a roku box myself!
:salute
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If you want something that is kinda nifty in finding content for you, any good quality Android TV box with Kodi installed is the best way to go - especially if you're a little tech savy.
I use my Apple TV (2 in the house) - cut my cable over 6 years ago saving over $7000 since then. Cable was $100 a month - $1200 a year. No brainer.
I have Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon Prime. And if I so desired, was thinking about the HBO subscription but at $15 a month, that's a little rich when compared to Netflix for 1/1000 of the shows. Game of Thrones or not. :P
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If you want something that is kinda nifty in finding content for you, any good quality Android TV box with Kodi installed is the best way to go - especially if you're a little tech savy.
I use my Apple TV (2 in the house) - cut my cable over 6 years ago saving over $7000 since then. Cable was $100 a month - $1200 a year. No brainer.
I have Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon Prime. And if I so desired, was thinking about the HBO subscription but at $15 a month, that's a little rich when compared to Netflix for 1/1000 of the shows. Game of Thrones or not. :P
Are you or do you still have to pay for Hulu / Netflix and Amazon Prime with Kodi installed ? I see apps like Aptoide / Mobdro where you suppose to be able to get the same thing as Netflix and so on .
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I have a couple of the newer Roku variants, the Nvidia Shield is excellent as well, but costs more. It does 4k, Plex, etc all better than any other device.
Amazon Prime was only recently launched/available in Canada, Hulu still isn't, however there are work arounds for Hulu, but it's a PITA - I have a US account set up with my US address and buy Hulu gift cards from a US source, as Hulu rejects Canadian credit card #s. You also have to use a VPN with a US IP to watch Hulu even on a US account while in Canada. Same thing with SlingTV, although there are other payment options there than gift cards for now. I use a VPN for Netflix to open up regions other than Canada, as the Canadian Netflix catalogue isn't as good as many others. Between subs for Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Sling, CraveTV (for HBO content here in Canada), we cut our cable/tv bill by 50% and increased the amount of decent TV by a huge factor. Sling TV truly gives you all the "network" stuff you will ever need for a fraction of what the cable companies charge. I'll probably drop Hulu as the cost due to not being in the US is higher, plus I can watch every show but 2 owned/created by Hulu on another platform, so it makes it pretty much a redundant service for me.
Bandwidth as stated earlier is an issue, we have a 250 cable and a 260 fiber connection, one has a 1.2tb limit, the other has no limit. Watching 4k streaming it doesn't take long with a few TVs in a home to bust even a large data cap.
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Gman , what VPN do you use . Looking and reading about that now .
EDIT: Running a VPN from what I am reading would be a wize thing to do anyway . Prices on service seem to jump all over the place though .
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I use Turbo Beacon VPN in Canada. I do the same for Hulu in Canada like GMAN - PITFA but lots of good shows. So now I get the best of both worlds - good content for US Netflix and access to Canadians netflix which also has shows the US does not - i.e. The 100 and iZombie. Not sure why Hulu let the CW drop... :rolleyes:
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Netflix has both "The 100" and "iZombie", although they cannot release them until the end of those seasons. You can also get them free from "the CW" streaming channel, but "the CW" only keep the last four or five episodes of each of their shows online, so you have to stay current if you want to watch them there.
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On Roku you can go online and search for hidden Roku channels you can add in manually too
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Thanks a bunch guys
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We do just what Skuzzy does: Roku to control everything, then subscription to Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Hulu.
We also got Starz, initially only to watch Ash vs. Evil Dead with Bruce Campbell in it (which is the awesome), and found that Starz has a good amount of interesting series on it, so we are keeping it.
We will probably let Hulu go -- we don't end up using that much -- and get Playstation Vue (a competitor to Sling, Hulu, etc.), which is available on the Roku.
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Wish I could quit the Dish Network... Wife watches 90% of the TV in the house. Everything I like to watch could be had over digital antenna, no real need for DVR.
However, wife records everything, on pretty much every channel. Not sure how she even watches it all.
Of course, our biggest issue is West Virginia internet. We can only stream 1 thing at a time, it makes internet browsing at the same time tough, let alone AH.
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So should I go with an Roku box or and Android box ? I am use to the Android systems but on a phone . Should be just like the box though .
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Roku is better supported than Googles Chromecast. I like the Roku remote better. Being able to plug in the ear buds and shut off the audio is nice when I want to sleep and the Wife wants to watch something.
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Mostly these days I watch youtube and amazon prime.
I think some netfilx too. There were a couple of shows on hulu but I dropped it after those.
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Thanks for the info Skuzzy and Kanth <S>
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I haven't used an Android system for that, just Roku. I'm happy with Roku, but can't give a comparison. Roku seems inexpensive.
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After reading Google is going to abort the Android the OS in favor of their new one, I would be leery of doing anything with Android. It will be interesting to see how Google/Alphabet handles the transition.
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After reading Google is going to abort the Android the OS in favor of their new one, I would be leery of doing anything with Android. It will be interesting to see how Google/Alphabet handles the transition.
I see thanks .
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Already have an amazon prime account (tip: if you have access to an email account that ends in .edu use that email to create your amazon prime account and only pay around $40 a year for prime) so I bought the amazon fire TV box and installed kodi, then installed the fusion.tv add on into kodi. As long as you don't feel a burning need to see your favorite tv show's newest episode the same week that it airs then you can watch just about anything that is currently on air as well as most shows that have aired in the past ten years or longer if they were very popular. (got my 11 year old son hooked on the Stargate SG1 series :aok)
Fire tv works well for catching big events like the super bowl or world series, kodi for tv and movies
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Thanks tmetal ,
This app here looks like the way to go . Would not install on my tablet though . Think one has to hVE VPN .
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=beykTdgBCbE
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Has anyone tried or looked into YouTube TV?
https://tv.youtube.com (https://tv.youtube.com)
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You guys running Kodi, and other media players, might want to keep up on this:
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2017/05/23/hacked-in-translation/
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You guys running Kodi, and other media players, might want to keep up on this:
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2017/05/23/hacked-in-translation/
Interesting, looks to work only if you use subtitles.
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I'll be retiring in a few months and we are beginning to cut monthly expenses. Paying about $120/mo for Dish now. You guys got me looking at other services. I started the 7 day free trial of Playstation Vue and ordered an upgraded Amazon Fire TV (will keep Amazon Prime). Playstation Vue is as low as $30/mo and it has all we want. I was planning to go with a less expensive Internet connection but will probably keep what I have. There is some trade off.
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You guys running Kodi, and other media players, might want to keep up on this:
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2017/05/23/hacked-in-translation/
Good to know . Thanks . That made up my mine on what to get . Been reading on boxes for a strate month now . Just wish I had known about these years ago .
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Oh , BTW , Sling TV is giving a Roku box away if you sign up for two months of sevice . I mite try that and get an Android box too .
EDIT : I did find out one thing . You can not log on to this forum running a VPN . The only forum i have run across that well not let you .
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We actively block open VPN relays. 99.9999% of all hackers use that facility.
You know the guy who posts once in a while about how he gets in? Well, he tries like 30 times before he finds an open relay we have not blocked yet. Whether he knows it or not, he is helping us. :)
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How do those of us overseas with prime accounts but with SmartTVs in Germany access the US versions of prime, etc?
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:aok cheers, wont use subtitles.. never had and now, never will.
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If anyone has a SONY Blueray player which also has a content streaming side, and you watch Hulu. You may be noticing Hulu in the past few months is throwing file too large error messages while you watch shows. Seems it is part of an ongoing issue SONY and Hulu have had for years with how Hulu content is streamed. I have a Visio smart TV with integrated Roku which does not have this problem playing back Hulu streams. So I will be getting a new Roku this weekend for the HDTV in question and populate both HDMI ports since the SONY originally was for playing DVD\Blueray before I cut the cord. SONY gave out a DNS address pair to try and solve this issue, it only made it easier to get back into Hulu each time the error kicked you out to the Home screen.
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We actively block open VPN relays. 99.9999% of all hackers use that facility.
You know the guy who posts once in a while about how he gets in? Well, he tries like 30 times before he finds an open relay we have not blocked yet. Whether he knows it or not, he is helping us. :)
I can see where you have too . Like back in the day it was really bad .
Got a question for you guy's . With a Roku box well I still be able to download stuff from say Google play store or just off the internet , apps that is .???? Like if I wanted to download Kodi an some of the other TV apps ?
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As faar as I know, the Roku is strictly a streaming device. Pretty sure it does not have a browser in it, but I have never needed anything like that.
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Roku is not compatible with google play app store. Far as I know there is no web browser for one. I have the roku 3 and it is not capable of either one
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Be proactive in making sure your "media box / media player" is thoroughly secured!
"Hacked In Translation"
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2017/05/23/hacked-in-translation/
Check Point researchers revealed a new attack vector which threatens millions of users worldwide – attack by subtitles. By crafting malicious subtitle files, which are then downloaded by a victim’s media player, attackers can take complete control over any type of device via vulnerabilities found in many popular streaming platforms, including VLC, Kodi (XBMC), Popcorn-Time and strem.io. We estimate there are approximately 200 million video players and streamers that currently run the vulnerable software, making this one of the most widespread, easily accessed and zero-resistance vulnerability reported in recent years.
posted May 23, 2017 - Click above url link to read the complete report
TC
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Thanks for the info ..<S>
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Enjoy the streaming while you can.
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Bandwidth hogs.
How about you download it once, watch it as many times as you want now that you have it, and save some bandwidth instead of streaming it multiple times.
You guys must like movies that look like slide shows.
And you guys blame htc servers for ping problems caused by people around the world steaming the same content over and over?
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High-def streaming these days doesn't max out cable or fios, so the streaming is smooth.
I almost never rewatch movies, so downloading vs. streaming isn't different in that regard.
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Enjoy the streaming while you can.
I don't think there can every be anything done to stop it . To many way's around it even mite have to use a site over sea's .. Even if you have to pay for something like Sling TV it is still cheaper than Dish or Diretv .
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Bandwidth hogs.
How about you download it once, watch it as many times as you want now that you have it, and save some bandwidth instead of streaming it multiple times.
You guys must like movies that look like slide shows.
And you guys blame htc servers for ping problems caused by people around the world steaming the same content over and over?
What? :headscratch:
Sorry, that makes no sense Icepac. Most good ISP's have backbones that could carry waaaay more than their customers use. Some of the bigger internet hoggers are companies, not people who stream Netflix or from Android boxes. It's like blaming your local fishermen for hogging the Florida beach coastline with 5 boats when it's the tourists... :D
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Also, bandwidth gets made to satisfy demand. It will continue to grow in the world. Already in my life, it has gone from zero (no personal computers or personal-computer networks), to using phone lines starting at 300 bits/second then over a couple of years up to 56k bps, then to DSL up to about the 1 Mbps range, then cable modems starting from several times that up to 10's of times that, then to cable modems and fios-type stuff.
So, late 1980's to now, bandwidth I use in my residence went up by a factor of 300,000, and cost went down by a factor of more than that, and despite me getting a gigantically better deal, companies were able to make $billions in providing it, and workers made livings providing it.
It's been great all the way around, and there is nothing (other than regulation) that can kill continued progress in this area.
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Everybody around you is affecting your ping.
Throughput is one thing but ping is what we seek with online gaming.
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Everybody around you is affecting your ping.
Throughput is one thing but ping is what we seek with online gaming.
More people, using more tech, is a good thing for you (as a user of that tech), not a bad thing.
I have a 3 ms ping to servers near me, 30 Mbps download, and 30 Mbps upload for about $30/month via fios. I'm guessing that you don't remember the days of T1 lines that gave 1 Mbps and cost $1000/month and much worse latency than today or the days of 300 baud modems.
You should embrace demand for products and free markets. Those two things working together are what give you today god-like bandwidth and latency for nearly free -- as viewed from what things were like 20 years ago.
Your argument is exactly the same as saying, "I hope Aces High doesn't get many new players, because I don't want the server to get swamped and give me poor gaming performance" -- without realizing that, if Aces High got a lot more users, they would build more servers and have the money to invest in a lot of things that would end up making your own gaming experience better.
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Everybody around you is affecting your ping.
Throughput is one thing but ping is what we seek with online gaming.
That depends on many factors. The physical network layout is a start. Are you sharing a physical link with others? Yes, if you are on a cable connection, no for everything else. Even on a cable connection it has to do with the physical capability of the connection.
In many areas cable has switched to fiber optics, with a significantly higher bandwidth, so sharing is a non issue.
Carrier based Ethernet switches do not bog down. Each port operates at full port speeds, 100% of the time.
The smart ISP, today, has the opportunity to install servers, on their network, which carry the various streaming services content. Many large neighborhoods can do the same thing. We did in my neighborhood. We have a Netflix server serving about 1,000 homes (growing daily). Our ISP is ecstatic.
The landscape for streaming is not the same as it was a few years ago. It has less impact today than it did a few years ago and keeps getting better. If we can manage to keep the FCC out of it, then things should improve even more.
If you are concerned it is impacting you, then take the lead and work on making it better for yourself. I did.
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More people, using more tech, is a good thing for you (as a user of that tech), not a bad thing.
I have a 3 ms ping to servers near me, 30 Mbps download, and 30 Mbps upload for about $30/month via fios. I'm guessing that you don't remember the days of T1 lines that gave 1 Mbps and cost $1000/month and much worse latency than today or the days of 300 baud modems.
Of course, you live in Redmond, microsoftland.
Yes, I remember installing serial line drivers, 300 baud modems, and T1 lines as a defense contractor in Washington during the 80s.
Of course, I wrote off Microsoft as a fad back then....LOL
I will be on cable but I checked the latency of a neighbor and it's all over the place.....far worse than my cell phone on 4g (lte had bigger latency variance).
You would figure being on the intercoastal waterway in west palm beach would net good latency but it does not.
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The new Roku Premier+ I just setup to replace my SONY BlueRay player rocks as a streaming only device. My wife and I run a Visio smart TV and this new Roku with both of us watching Hulu shows and movies with no problems. I'm on ATT VDSL with 7.5M down and 1.5M up. While we are at home our smart phones are WiFi only and we have no problems with calls at the same time watching streaming shows.
I can play AH while she watches Hulu with no issues, downloading a full install of the game can take 15-20 minutes. :lol
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Of course, I wrote off Microsoft as a fad back then....LOL
I'm in the same boat. I thought Google, Yahoo, Netscape, etc. were all hugely overvalued in the early days -- then they proceeded to go up hugely from there. I missed a bit of upside, eh? :uhoh
I will be on cable but I checked the latency of a neighbor and it's all over the place
What's your neighbor on?
If your cable latency is bad, it is only a matter of time when it will be way better, and that time is shorter the more people are using and wanting bandwidth with lower latency. If less people use and want bandwidth and low latency, it would take longer for it to appear for you.
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Went and got an Anndroid box . Should be in today . I just like that there is so much one can do with the Android box . Plus I am use to the Android system . Been watching TV on my Android tablet all week with no problems so this should work out good . Dish sent me a bill just yesterday for $80 bucks , $22 bucks a month for just the box and over half the channels are nothing but selling stuff . I know what I am fixing to tell Dish what they can do with there box , lol. Can't believe I have not found out about this sooner .... I could have paid for a new PC to play AH by now .
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skuzzy-right this minute I'm paying 125.00 a month for 18mps satellite internet (only thing I could get at the time) and my contract runs out in mid july. I have found a company that can get cable internet 60mps and satellite tv ( dish or direct tv ) for a lot less than my currant provider. if I can get better and less cost with roku I will. I will have internet-can you tell me what I will need to and how to use Roku tv. thankyou
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skuzzy-right this minute I'm paying 125.00 a month for 18mps satellite internet (only thing I could get at the time) and my contract runs out in mid july. I have found a company that can get cable internet 60mps and satellite tv ( dish or direct tv ) for a lot less than my currant provider. if I can get better and less cost with roku I will. I will have internet-can you tell me what I will need to and how to use Roku tv. thankyou
Howdy, Lunatic.
We have Roku at my house. It just plugs into our Internet router, like plugging in a computer to it. Then you plug the Roku into your TV via hdmi cable.
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AT&T just run fiber to my house yesterday and WOW is it fast .
Flench where do you live? I have been working with my towns city council helping get Fiber run for homes in our area since the ISP's here don't want to push Fiber into the residential areas. AT&T and Charter are the only two ISP's we can get and they have us over a barrell due to some crap rule in the state of Alabama dealing with franchising of cabling infrastructure.
The only thing I hate about Roku is that in order to get many of the channels on there you have to have an active cable TV subscription for things like the History channel, most Disney stuff, etc... I have the bare minimum cable which only gives me local television channels and we rarely use those for anything.
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In Mississippi . They passed some kind of law here that every one can get DSL but AT&T run Fiber down every main road back 10 years ago . Just know getting to the side road's now and I live in the sticks too . It's $90 bucks a month , unreal but I still come out cheaper doing it this way and I can watch any movie I want with the help of a few app's and running a VPN .
The only thing about the Roku box you still got to pay to watch anything . Say like Sling TV and so on ..
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In Mississippi . They passed some kind of law here that every one can get DSL but AT&T run Fiber down every main road back 10 years ago . Just know getting to the side road's now and I live in the sticks too . It's $90 bucks a month , unreal but I still come out cheaper doing it this way and I can watch any movie I want with the help of a few app's and running a VPN .
The only thing about the Roku box you still got to pay to watch anything . Say like Sling TV and so on ..
Any of the subscribed streaming services have to be paid for (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, Sling TV...). That is completely independent of the streaming device. Roku just happens to be the best supported streaming device today. There are hundreds of free channels available.
Of course, if you are one of those who are trying to hack around things do you do not have to pay for anything, then you can stop posting in this thread. Do not take that lightly.
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Don't get me wrong Skuzzy . I am going with Sling TV . Starts out at $20 and up to like $30 but you get a lot of channels .
EDIT : Why I like the Android box I can use it for like FB and so on and I got quit a few PM's telling me they are doing the same thing .
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Just had to be sure. It's something we cannot have on our bulletin board.
It is a bit confusing though. You can get Sling TV over the Roku. As a matter of fact, I am pretty sure all streaming services are available over the Roku.
That said, it is not a browser for the Internet. It is strictly a streaming hardware platform. I never use my television for anything Internet related, so Roku is the perfect fit for me. It does have a media player which does give me access to my local media server and all of its content as well.
But, if you want to surf the Internet, Roku does not do that.
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Any of the subscribed streaming services have to be paid for (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, Sling TV...). That is completely independent of the streaming device. Roku just happens to be the best supported streaming device today. There are hundreds of free channels available.
Of course, if you are one of those who are trying to hack around things do you do not have to pay for anything, then you can stop posting in this thread. Do not take that lightly.
Yeah we pay for all our stuff over the Roku like Sling, Hulu, etc... However I think its ridiculous that networks owned under the ABC/Disney umbrella don't let you stream via Sling or their individual app; that you can also get on Roku; without an active cable subscription that has their channels in it. Like with AT&T Uverse or Charter Spectrum (only 2 available high speed ISP's in my town) you have to go to their premium subscription service with 200+ channels in order to get access to shows on the History Network, A&E, Disney XD, etc... Even though those shows already run on Sling TV but they don't recognize Sling TV as a cable service provider but ESPN recognizes Sling TV and allows you to authorize their content so you can watch multiple games/shows on different devices without using Sling TV which only allows one user access at a time.
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Good luck with it.
By the way, I started slowly. First adding the Roku to one television, then to the other one. Then the antennae, then the Tablo.
The only reason I have over the air channels is for sports.
search reddit for streams of major events, just watched the nba finals for free
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Careful Randal . we do not want this thread locked . I know a bunch of people trying to get away form the high price of Dish and Diretv that you pay for and it's nothing but channels trying to sell stuff . I got my box up and runing and love it ..
Rodu has a deal going on now where if you pay for two months service they well give you a free box . Good stuff . Stop paying for Dish and Diretv they done made there money anyway seting on a beach some where enoying your money .