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Title: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: TerryRF on May 28, 2017, 06:51:24 AM
I was wondering which Merlin engine the Spit IX is modeled with.

The F Mk IXc had the Merlin 61 or 63 while the LF Mk IXc had the Merlin 66.

Just curious about how the aircraft are modeled in the game and how one can find out more info on the aircraft in game.
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: Zimme83 on May 28, 2017, 07:15:11 AM
Its an early IX with the Merlin 61.
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: thrila on May 28, 2017, 07:16:07 AM
The spit XVI has a packard merlin 66.
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: pipz on May 28, 2017, 07:17:26 AM
I believe the 61 is the one that is modeled if I recall correctly. Wasnt the 61 the engine that did very well up high but suffered at lower to mid alts?

The 63 was a more general purpose engine that performed decent at all alts?

66 being the low alt rated engine (Spit 16) and the 70 being the more powerful high alt engine (Spit 8).
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: Zimme83 on May 28, 2017, 08:18:36 AM
I believe the 61 is the one that is modeled if I recall correctly. Wasnt the 61 the engine that did very well up high but suffered at lower to mid alts?

The 63 was a more general purpose engine that performed decent at all alts?

66 being the low alt rated engine (Spit 16) and the 70 being the more powerful high alt engine (Spit 8).

No, the LF. Mk IX had the Merlin 66 and the Mk XVI had the Packard Mk 266 (a merlin 66 with minor modifications) the HF. Mk IX had the Merlin 70.
Spit VIII is pretty much a MK VII without pressurized cockpit and a Merlin 66 (the one we have in the game). It's more related to our Mk XIV than the other spits.
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: pipz on May 28, 2017, 08:25:01 AM
No, the LF. Mk IX had the Merlin 66 and the Mk XVI had the Packard Mk 266 (a merlin 66 with minor modifications) the HF. Mk IX had the Merlin 70.
Spit VIII is pretty much a MK VII without pressurized cockpit and a Merlin 66 (the one we have in the game). It's more related to our Mk XIV than the other spits.

Your picking knits a little hehehhe

the 66 was the low alt motor. Ya ya Packard made them as well.................. :)
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: Zimme83 on May 28, 2017, 08:41:46 AM
But the H.F Mk IX was not a Spit 8  :P
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: pipz on May 28, 2017, 08:50:11 AM
But the H.F Mk IX was not a Spit 8  :P

The Spit VIII used the 70 as well.  :old:
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: Zimme83 on May 28, 2017, 08:53:12 AM
The Spit VIII used the 70 as well.  :old:

But its still not a spit IX  :old:
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: FBKampfer on May 28, 2017, 11:28:53 AM
Damn brits and their complicated naming systems :old:.
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: pipz on May 28, 2017, 11:53:39 AM
Damn brits and their complicated naming systems :old:.

Proper nomenclature is of the utmost importance old man.  :old:  :)
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: MiloMorai on May 28, 2017, 03:55:12 PM
The spit XVI has a packard merlin 66.

I believe that should be 266.
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: save on May 28, 2017, 05:52:29 PM
What engine did the Spit XXI have ?

Did it serve in WWII ?

Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: JVboob on May 28, 2017, 06:05:36 PM
I miss having the option of .50 and .303s in the spit 9
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: thrila on May 29, 2017, 09:10:44 AM
I believe that should be 266.

Got me there. :)
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: Zimme83 on May 30, 2017, 03:41:33 AM
What engine did the Spit XXI have ?

Did it serve in WWII ?

A Griffon, was developed from the Mk XIV. The first few became operational in jan -45 and saw very limited action.
I miss having the option of .50 and .303s in the spit 9

I believe that early Mk IX:s did not had the .50 option, it was introduced later on. But if you want to fly a Late Mk IX, fly the XVI, there are no significant differences between it and a Lf. Mk IX.
Title: Re: Merlins in Spit IX.
Post by: Karnak on May 30, 2017, 08:15:25 PM
No Merlin 61 Spit IX carried .50 cals.

The Spitfire Mk IX in AH represents the earliest version from 1942.  The Mk VIII, which in AH has a Merlin 66, can be used in place of the Spitfire LF.Mk IX from 1943.  The Spitfire Mk XVI was only ever powered by a Merlin 266 (The Packard built version of the Merlin 66) and equipped with a "e" wing which had two 20mm cannons and two .50 machine guns.

Interestingly, the AH Spitfire Mk XVI is actually a Spitfire LF.Mk IXe.  You can tell by the critical altitude of the engine.  A Merlin 266 had a critical altitude about 1000ft higher than a Merlin 66 and the Spitfire Mk XVI's power curves match, exactly, the power curves of the Spitfire Mk VIII in AH.  No Spitfire Mk VIII had a Merlin 266, so....both are powered by the Merlin 66, making AH's Spitfire Mk XVI actually a Spitfire LF.Mk IXe.

That is fine, to be honest, as the Spitfire LF.Mk IXe and Spitfire Mk XVI came off the production line mingled together, the mark being determined by which engine was installed.