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Title: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 30, 2017, 01:00:02 AM
They are fast, can sink CVs in one pass, have guns from hell, and can withstand serious amounts of damage. They are too good.

Here is a film of some 26s I came across. My aim wasn't really "that" great, nor where my positions. These things are so hard to get out in front of. But, I put so many rounds in them. Then that one second of shot he gets on me gets my main gas, which was end of sortie shortly after I killed him. Does this look like they've taken too much damage too you guys?

As a bomber, these should definitely be perked. Plus, people need to spend bomber perks once in a while.

Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 30, 2017, 02:59:15 AM
No.  B-26s do not unbalance the game play.
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: hgtonyvi on May 30, 2017, 08:31:04 AM
But AKAK they are tougher to shoot down and they are fast...Also The Tu2s.....I think Each drone should be perked.
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: bozon on May 30, 2017, 09:08:17 AM
But AKAK they are tougher to shoot down and they are fast...Also The Tu2s.....I think Each drone should be perked.
TU2 die very easily. They seem to have good defensive guns, but are vulnerable from above and below, and die very fast. Speed is their real defense.

B26 are ths most difficult bomber to bring down after the A20. B26 also has very good defensive guns and can dive as well as some fighters... while firing its defensive guns... with drones in formation. I wonder what it must have been like for the waist gunners to stand infront of an open window firing their guns into a crosswing of 480 mph. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: Lusche on May 30, 2017, 10:35:47 AM
Also The Tu2s.....I think Each drone should be perked.


To me, TuTus had almost a "free kills" tag. Very limited gun traverse and even more limited ammo and very fragile when shot at.
It's a great bomber to quickly deliver a huge bombload, but you better get it done before anyone takes notice of you. If I expected to fight my way to the  target, I did not chose the Tu-2.
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: hgtonyvi on May 30, 2017, 11:59:48 AM

To me, TuTus had almost a "free kills" tag. Very limited gun traverse and even more limited ammo and very fragile when shot at.
It's a great bomber to quickly deliver a huge bombload, but you better get it done before anyone takes notice of you. If I expected to fight my way to the  target, I did not chose the Tu-2.
Not the ones I came across, Chased one yesterday in my F4U-4 doing over 380MPH and was catching him slowly. I then flew pass him from the right and pulled vertical to come down at a 45 degree angle to get a shot, pinged him up badly but he pinged me up and I was dead.
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: Lusche on May 30, 2017, 01:33:36 PM
Not the ones I came across, Chased one yesterday in my F4U-4 doing over 380MPH and was catching him slowly. I then flew pass him from the right and pulled vertical to come down at a 45 degree angle to get a shot, pinged him up badly but he pinged me up and I was dead.

You messed up by getting in his gun envelope and he was lucky with his shots. For the record, in my first ever sortie in the Tu-2 I shot down 2 Me 262 with the defensive guns. But that still doesn't change the basic problems: Limited traverse - limited ammunition - weak structure.

A2A k/d for the common formation bombers in 2017 so far:

B-17 0.42
B-24 0.35
B-26 0.34
B-29 1.23
JU-88 0.16
Lanc 0.19
Tu-2 0.21

And there's no doubt that some of the Tu-2 relatively few victims fell to a single ship being used as a heavy fighter and its fixed forward 20mm guns.


Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: wil3ur on June 01, 2017, 05:03:06 PM
I like using single Tu2 for a quick bombing run, hit a town or a VH, then go into CAP with it.  They're very fast and can keep their speed well if you want to BnZ a fight.   Still like my A20 better, more maneuverable and I think the 50s have better ballistics than the Tu2s 20mms.
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: lunatic1 on June 11, 2017, 07:49:42 AM
They are fast, can sink CVs in one pass, have guns from hell, and can withstand serious amounts of damage. They are too good.

Here is a film of some 26s I came across. My aim wasn't really "that" great, nor where my positions. These things are so hard to get out in front of. But, I put so many rounds in them. Then that one second of shot he gets on me gets my main gas, which was end of sortie shortly after I killed him. Does this look like they've taken too much damage too you guys?

As a bomber, these should definitely be perked. Plus, people need to spend bomber perks once in a while.

most hvy bombers can sink a CV
plus you guys are not giving any credit to the gunners.
bomber pilots have gotten a lot better in AH3 than they were in Ah2
even I have gotten a little better as a bomber gunner.

most fighters when they go for bombers go for the center bomber which is a mistake, you get inside their 3 plane envelope.
instead go for the drones 1st go for the side angle.

I myself fly the B-24's carrys more bombs than the B17 and the B26
has more guns than the B26's--although they say it flames easier.
-1 to perking the B-26
if you want to fly a Perked bomber-you have the B-29's if you can get it off the ground
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: save on June 17, 2017, 08:03:04 PM
I nominate B26 as the hardest plane in AH to kill.
Good guns,  same lethality as a B17 (or better), almost impossible to position you plane for a HO due to its speed, and very good front guns, if you do.

Some in my squad just pretend they are not there, if you are not above them.
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: pembquist on June 18, 2017, 12:39:59 AM
Whats a B-26?
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: The Fugitive on June 18, 2017, 09:21:36 AM
Whats a B-26?

A bigger P38  :)
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: stabbyy on June 18, 2017, 08:21:00 PM
They are fast, can sink CVs in one pass, have guns from hell, and can withstand serious amounts of damage. They are too good.

Here is a film of some 26s I came across. My aim wasn't really "that" great, nor where my positions. These things are so hard to get out in front of. But, I put so many rounds in them. Then that one second of shot he gets on me gets my main gas, which was end of sortie shortly after I killed him. Does this look like they've taken too much damage too you guys?

As a bomber, these should definitely be perked. Plus, people need to spend bomber perks once in a while.


reality is almost any bomber can sink a CV in 1 pass especially with a formation many bombers have front guns...as for speed lots to choose from any any bomber can take a lot of damage(even g4's) if you are not lining up a shot so no they shouldnt be perked and i would suggest you get a spit 1/i16 and go offline and practice lining shots up on drones...and any gunner who is decent is lethal regardless of the bomber while something like a Lancaster probably wont kill you right off the bat.. you will be hurting 2-3 mistakes your dead with b24/17s/26/29s/ki/ju-88s and a good gunner will get you killed 9/10 you dont get a luxury of 2/3 mistakes
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: Zimme83 on June 18, 2017, 10:21:31 PM
Shot down a 4-hog w tail guns on a stuka today, sometimes (often) the problem isnt the bomber....
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: icepac on June 25, 2017, 08:45:44 PM
I do have a tough time believing when I see B26s fly through over the cv at 5000 feet, drop the CV, and zoom home at super high speed without even taking a hit.

I'm pretty sure my only air to air kills on one was from peppering a formation in a pass, taking tons of hits, and barely making it home to land and seeing the kill messages show up when he bailed them instead of making the flight home.

Tu2s are only easy kills if they don't fight back or are concentrating on the bomb drop when you engage them.

I've never fired the rear guns except once while being chased by multiple cons on the deck.........and it did me no good.

(http://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1466/24133597224_d2393fc04d_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: Zimme83 on June 26, 2017, 02:08:07 AM
Tu-2 rear guns can be surprisingly deadly and should not be underestimated, both arc of fire and ammo load is limited but they should be respected.
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: icepac on June 26, 2017, 08:32:51 PM
Front guns are better and it's great to fly after it's out of bombs and wait for a fighter climbing up to you who get's restless and does a final zoom climb to match your altitude.

Then you whip around and catch him when he's slow.
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: bozon on June 26, 2017, 10:54:35 PM
Front guns are better and it's great to fly after it's out of bombs and wait for a fighter climbing up to you who get's restless and does a final zoom climb to match your altitude.

Then you whip around and catch him when he's slow.
and what do your drones do while you are whipping around?
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: icepac on June 27, 2017, 03:30:04 PM
I don't fly with drones.
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: bozon on June 28, 2017, 02:23:00 AM
I don't fly with drones.
Correct answer  :aok
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: icepac on June 28, 2017, 06:12:27 AM
Sure....with lancasters and possibly mossies, I will fly with drones but the TU2 missions are usually just a reason to draw an enemy up into a high altitude intercept and then attack them usually leading to 30k worth of downhill fighting.

As far as B26s, they are really so hard to kill, I usually get killed attacking them and then chase them NOE for a surprise vulch as they land.
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 29, 2017, 09:57:08 AM
Sure....with lancasters and possibly mossies, I will fly with drones but the TU2 missions are usually just a reason to draw an enemy up into a high altitude intercept and then attack them usually leading to 30k worth of downhill fighting.

As far as B26s, they are really so hard to kill, I usually get killed attacking them and then chase them NOE for a surprise vulch as they land.

I know. I mean it's crazy when my F4U1C can hardly even get passed them, which means you are constantly stuck behind their 6 after every pass. Just count how many of the worlds best 20mm it took to bring them down. Imagine if I were in a Dhog. These kinds of bombers are just incredibly difficult to take down if you aren't already on top of them with alt. 
Title: Re: Should the B26s be perked?
Post by: hgtonyvi on June 29, 2017, 03:20:35 PM
I've been saying this for a long time. Perk each drone!!!!