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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: cav58d on June 20, 2017, 11:24:34 AM
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What are the altitudes to remain below dot and dar bar?
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You can double check in the arena settings, but I believe 65 feet for dot and 250 feet for bar.
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65ft was a while back 150 should be correct for dot dar and I believe its the same for bar but it should be higher.
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You can double check in the arena settings, but I believe 65 feet for dot and 250 feet for bar.
How do I check it in arena settings? Can't find it.
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You can double check in the arena settings, but I believe 65 feet for dot and 250 feet for bar.
Found it, and that is correct. <S>
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Just so we are all talking the same language, 250 ft. for Radar & 65 ft. for Dar Bar.
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Just so we are all talking the same language, 250 ft. for Radar & 65 ft. for Dar Bar.
For a dot to appear within an active radar ring, the plane needs to be above 65'. For a plane to create a radar bar for the sector, it needs to be above 250'.
In the arena settings, RadarAlt is for dots and SectorCounterAlt is for the bar.
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Are you sure?? I can trigger a darbar without being seen on radar. :old:
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Are you sure?? I can trigger a darbar without being seen on radar. :old:
If you are in the sector, but outside the radar ring, you will trigger the darbar without being seen on radar. Same thing happens if you are in the radar ring but the radar is down.
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When I first got here after being frustrated about not being able to find aircraft someone said "Just fly to the nearest darbar" and explained it to me quickly which obviously I did not understand because for a couple of days I was circling the actual "darbar" looking for enemies.
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When I first got here after being frustrated about not being able to find aircraft someone said "Just fly to the nearest darbar" and explained it to me quickly which obviously I did not understand because for a couple of days I was circling the actual "darbar" looking for enemies.
:confused:
That reminds me of kindergarten when I was told for the first time that we were having a fire drill that day, and I freaked thinking they were just going to burn the place down.
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When I first got here after being frustrated about not being able to find aircraft someone said "Just fly to the nearest darbar" and explained it to me quickly which obviously I did not understand because for a couple of days I was circling the actual "darbar" looking for enemies.
:confused:
Lol, I wish I would have been there so I could have said: "Hey Zoney! What the Hal are you doing ya dipstick?" :) I think I'll keep my AH blunders to myself.
:cool: one-eye
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Lyme,
Also beware of flying near where a task force may be and not being under the 65 ft. Can't tell you how many times the radar has been up on the CV or base and a noe raid is headed somehere and isn't under the 65 ft ceiling. You see all these nice little enemy dots with no dar bar and it tells you they are all on the deck.
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65ft?? That's why we don't really see NOE attacks anymore.
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Well it just means you take the radar first, unless your guys can maintain 65 feet. If your side porks all the dar on the front, it still gives the NOE an element of surprise. Regardless of dar up or down though as soon as your guys are inside the radar ring the base icon flashes anyways.
Wiley.
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65ft?? That's why we don't really see NOE attacks anymore.
I'd say that's only a part of th equation. 65ft dar altitude alone is easy to deal with, as radars are easy to kill. We had seen this in the past, one side taking advantage of another sides longer dar downtimes. They porked all dars along the frontline, and then would follow up with a NOE raid half an hour later.
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The whole culture of the NOE smash and grab has left the game, with some exceptions from time to time. 250AGL certainly made it easier to be lazy about getting into auto level. And easier to manually follow complex terrain. The few times lately when I see an NOE with at least 10-15 guys, it's a 50:50 chance they get the capture. It leaves me scratching my head how they blow it, but a few guys get in the air, a few in wirbles, and it's bust for the attackers.
When you see a field flashing out of the way, someone usually looks to see what is up quickly these days. It's hard to do an NOE smash and grab with the smaller numbers and everyone looking for an easy fight. The popup off an NOE is usually easier to fight against than a 10 fighter jabo attack from 15k. I do wonder if the NOE alt was put back to 250AGL if people would start giving NOE missions a try again.
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Do the mountains have an effect on either the dot or dar visibility? I mean on some maps it's possible to fly down valleys, do you still show a dar bar?
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Do the mountains have an effect on either the dot or dar visibility? I mean on some maps it's possible to fly down valleys, do you still show a dar bar?
The altitudes are AGL, so wherever you are, if the distance between you and the ground is more than 65 or 250', you will show. It's not that hard to stay below the 250' threshold, but over lumpy ground it's quite difficult to stay below 65'.
That's why most NOEs are over water these days.
Wiley.
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Yes Wiley. It's hard to do NOE these days due to the terrain. 65ft is tough not to go over. So the water is the best bet.
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Does anyone the height of the tallest trees or say the silo?
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Trees are ~50 ft tall. At least when I've been testing takeoff clearance, that appears to be the case for some trees at the end of the runways. It's very difficult to fly NOE and not hit the trees while remaining below the dar. That's why most NOE these days is strictly over water.