General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: NatCigg on June 21, 2017, 04:02:14 PM
Title: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: NatCigg on June 21, 2017, 04:02:14 PM
please turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields.
not fun flying to enemy base and get shot by auto gun, came to play with real people.
point two, real people dont sit field guns to shoot at stupid people that fly to enemy bases. please reduce manable guns and count man gun kills with reported name of dead guys in gun. Any other way to limit man gun lameplay would be appreciated.
point three. nerf the auto guns, all of them. stop the perfect puffy, end the laser guided computer controlled surface to air ack missiles.
that is all. ty
end,
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Zimme83 on June 21, 2017, 04:12:44 PM
Yes, real people sits in manned guns, that's why they are called manned... And as for auto guns: they aren't that hard to Dodge, you just need to learn how to do it.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Zoney on June 21, 2017, 04:24:32 PM
-1
Flying around an enemy base should not be without risks and I think it is nicely balanced already. If anything, in my opinion, it is too lightly defended.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Zimme83 on June 21, 2017, 04:50:56 PM
Auto ack is way less lethal in here than irl, we can deack a Town or v-base without too much trouble while irl strafing a AAA gun from a plane would be an almost certain Death.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: cav58d on June 22, 2017, 12:00:36 AM
+1 for manned gun kills. If they can land em and get their name in the lights, they should sink with the ship when the gun is destroyed and they were in it.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: waystin2 on June 22, 2017, 07:38:52 AM
De-ack the field. If I chase someone to their ack, the ack goes.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: lunatic1 on June 22, 2017, 08:11:48 AM
-1
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: RedBeard on June 22, 2017, 10:40:28 AM
-1 for turning down the ack
If you learn how to jink appropriately, it should miss you most of the time. Yes, I still get caught by it sometimes, but I don't want to make the ack totally ineffective.
Red Beard CO 364th C-Hawks
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 22, 2017, 01:50:42 PM
He just wants to make it easier for him to vulch, it's a rather selfish with without any attempt to improve the game play.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Ramesis on June 22, 2017, 02:04:16 PM
-1
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: bustr on June 22, 2017, 02:39:55 PM
You see about one maybe two good de-acking workings over of a field when a base assault is in it's beginning 30 minutes. After that, depends on the squads involved, while Waystin loves de-acking so he can vulch with the 37mm. Especially if POTW is serious about trashing a field. You can tell the elapsed time age of a base assault by how willing anyone is to de-ack versus circle to vulch and pick as a pack. And how clustered and low the uppers are to the proximity of the ack to get them killed.
I can understand being solo against an individual hiding in his ack, gets frustrating hoping he will come out and his freinds stop shooting at you. As for a base assault with a group circling waiting to pick with a group circling trying to sucker them into the ack. You screwed the pooch on the base assault window by showing up late. You can still de-ack and clear things up yourself but, then your pick and vulch targets often stop upping without the security of the ack and come in 20k plus from another field to pick your group of pickers.
So is your problem the former with a group initiative gone sour or the latter that your only play time is during low numbers?
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: NatCigg on June 22, 2017, 02:40:09 PM
He just wants to make it easier for him to vulch, it's a rather selfish with without any attempt to improve the game play.
You are wrong. My type is as clear as yours. I am not looking to vulch and have 100% attempted to improve game play.
On your assumed point. In my "last" sortie before wishing. I flew to a enemy base, when i flew by because there were NO FIGHTERS, i saw a bomber. The HIDDEN gunner took his attention from shooting trees, to fire upon me as i flew away. Simmilar to PUFFY ACK this individual managed to take my wing off with one shot, from behind, as I WAS CONTINUING ON TO FIND A INDIVIDUAL TO PLAY THE GAME WITH.
can you see how LAMEPLAY can be reduced!!!!!!!
:pray
please see O.P.
or watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg92QpjRcJk
:salute
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: NatCigg on June 22, 2017, 02:52:13 PM
You see about one maybe two good de-acking workings over of a field when a base assault is in it's beginning 30 minutes. After that, depends on the squads involved, while Waystin loves de-acking so he can vulch with the 37mm. Especially if POTW is serious about trashing a field. You can tell the elapsed time age of a base assault by how willing anyone is to de-ack versus circle to vulch and pick as a pack. And how clustered and low the uppers are to the proximity of the ack to get them killed.
This "group think" is centered around wolf pack domination and vulching. aka. pick and run turns to vulch then maybe a base take.
also noted as lame to play against. many times lame to play with, for shear lack of targets and haphazard base take timing.
:salute
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Zoney on June 22, 2017, 02:54:28 PM
NatCigg
I think you flew too near the base if you did not want to interact with any guns on that base, manned or otherwise. In the future, I suggest you not fly that close to the base. If you are "searching" for an enemy aircraft and you do not see one at the base, do not fly near the base.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Zoney on June 22, 2017, 02:57:38 PM
Also, FYI...
If you do not want to hit the water, do not fly near the water.
If you do not want to hit a tree, do not fly near the tree.
If you do not want to hit the ground, do not fly near the ground.
If you do not want to be shot down by a wirb, do not fly near the wirb.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: NatCigg on June 22, 2017, 02:57:59 PM
i dont climb higher than 7k, Zoney!!!!
:devil
:salute
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: NatCigg on June 22, 2017, 03:00:17 PM
If you do not want to hit the water, do not fly near the water.
If you do not want to hit a tree, do not fly near the tree.
If you do not want to hit the ground, do not fly near the ground.
If you do not want to be shot down by a wirb, do not fly near the wirb.
I understand. That is why im here. I want Change! Hope! You JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND> :neener:
:rofl
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Zoney on June 22, 2017, 03:00:40 PM
See, now your getting it.
If you do not want to be shot down at 30k by Zoney, do not fly at 30k.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: NatCigg on June 22, 2017, 03:02:30 PM
i dont mind getting rammed by a airlocked 190 death dart!
:neener:
:airplane:
:joystick:
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: NatCigg on June 22, 2017, 04:31:42 PM
At 30k we need ice! pilot oxygen, with the ability to destroy. also im sure nothing good would happen if a hole went into cockpit or plane at 30 k. hanging on thin air is not enough, death should be inches away at all times at 30k!
:salute
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Zoney on June 22, 2017, 04:33:05 PM
Death sneaks up on you at 30k, ask OBX
:devil
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Lusche on June 22, 2017, 05:02:17 PM
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: pembquist on June 22, 2017, 05:55:14 PM
Make base auto ack indestructable, remove all man guns, leave town ack as is.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: ImADot on June 22, 2017, 06:01:24 PM
Keep the game as-is. Stop trying to force others into your play style.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: pembquist on June 22, 2017, 07:04:18 PM
I'm not trying to force anyone to play in any particular style, I just would like for people not to be able to vulch with impunity or blast away with the 88 when there are 40 people on. They can just take up golf or something, they don't have to play AH.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: The Fugitive on June 22, 2017, 08:59:37 PM
3 guys running a co-ordinated attack can drop ack at almost any field in 2 passes. All it takes is some practice and some team work.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: NatCigg on June 23, 2017, 07:48:40 AM
What is easier, A: getting two guys to deack a field. B: pulling teeth. C) deacking 14 guns because there is nothing to shoot at while a hidden gem fires from one of the 6 manned guns. D: avoiding all air combat to run the gauntlet of dumbed down laser guidance ack?
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Zardoz on June 23, 2017, 09:56:40 AM
Leave the ack the way it is :salute
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: lyric1 on June 23, 2017, 12:24:48 PM
Kill enemy AAA strat to 0% Then deack field of your choice 3 hours of no AAA guns what more do you need. :devil
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Randy1 on June 23, 2017, 12:29:25 PM
Last night I was killing the barracks. Flint got me with a maned gun just as he should have. It was good game play. I had an objective and he stopped me. :salute to Flint.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: USCH on June 24, 2017, 09:40:48 AM
You are wrong. My type is as clear as yours. I am not looking to vulch and have 100% attempted to improve game play.
On your assumed point. In my "last" sortie before wishing. I flew to a enemy base, when i flew by because there were NO FIGHTERS, i saw a bomber. The HIDDEN gunner took his attention from shooting trees, to fire upon me as i flew away. Simmilar to PUFFY ACK this individual managed to take my wing off with one shot, from behind, as I WAS CONTINUING ON TO FIND A INDIVIDUAL TO PLAY THE GAME WITH.
can you see how LAMEPLAY can be reduced!!!!!!!
:pray
please see O.P.
or watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg92QpjRcJk
:salute
how about you stay away from ground guns? clearly your issue is with them so just stay away from them.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: lunatic1 on July 01, 2017, 04:32:56 PM
please turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields.
not fun flying to enemy base and get shot by auto gun, came to play with real people. point three. nerf the auto guns, all of them. stop the perfect puffy, end the laser guided computer controlled surface to air ack missiles.
that is all. ty
point two, real people dont sit field guns to shoot at stupid people that fly to enemy bases. please reduce manable guns and count man gun kills with reported name of dead guys in gun. Any other way to limit man gun lameplay would be appreciated.
end,
quit trying to vulch the runways and you won't get shot down.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: lunatic1 on July 01, 2017, 04:35:36 PM
You are wrong. My type is as clear as yours. I am not looking to vulch and have 100% attempted to improve game play.
On your assumed point. In my "last" sortie before wishing. I flew to a enemy base, when i flew by because there were NO FIGHTERS, i saw a bomber. The HIDDEN gunner took his attention from shooting trees, to fire upon me as i flew away. Simmilar to PUFFY ACK this individual managed to take my wing off with one shot, from behind, as I WAS CONTINUING ON TO FIND A INDIVIDUAL TO PLAY THE GAME WITH.
can you see how LAMEPLAY can be reduced!!!!!!!
:pray
please see O.P.
or watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg92QpjRcJk
:salute
you do know that the manned ack/37mm has a range of 4.5k the 88 has a range of 12k
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Oldman731 on July 01, 2017, 07:17:12 PM
I'm not trying to force anyone to play in any particular style, I just would like for people not to be able to vulch with impunity or blast away with the 88 when there are 40 people on. They can just take up golf or something, they don't have to play AH.
hmmm sounds like your trying to have your cake and eat it too, you don't want people to vulch u when taking off, and you don't want people to shoot at you with an 88, if you get rid of any manned guns or auto guns that effects you fields defense as well.. ahh I think I see what your saying you want the guy that's in the 88 to get in a plane, I think that's what you want.. well it may surprise you to know, that a lot of players don't want to fly, or can't fly in this cartoon game because of real life medical condition's so they play in gv's manned guns, ships.
They can just take up golf or something, they don't have to play AH. [/quote] so now you want people to quit if they don't play your way real nice
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: pembquist on July 02, 2017, 02:22:40 PM
I am outraged!
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: lunatic1 on July 02, 2017, 03:02:12 PM
lol me as well,
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: NatCigg on July 05, 2017, 01:35:49 PM
We can a least get credit for killing the basteds! The manned gunner gets his cake and eats it too! Get it strait lunatic! He hides in the game never to be seen, shooting passersbys in the back, always getting his name in lights! For what? being a good shot? there is no sweet and grit in the eye, no shocking recoil, no dehabilitating sound and smoke. It's a merry candyland for those dweebs! im the donkey busting my butt and they get point and click tails!
An Outrage. :old:
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Zimme83 on July 05, 2017, 01:46:47 PM
Man acks are the last effort when the field is vulched, the 37mm are only effective a 1-1,5k range so it only works against vulchers, 88:s are just a bit annoying, sometimes someone gets lucky but they are not bothering anyone.. And a 20 mm round within 50 yards kills the gun..
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: Bruv119 on July 06, 2017, 01:30:32 AM
I'm going to surprise myself and say the guns are about right.
The current strat system allows for downtimes to be increased heavily. The layout of a small field makes de-acking a breeze.
Of course there are some weirdos who have freaky good shots in the 88mm and 37mm when most can't hit a barn door but they have to their credit practiced and honed their abilities to make those shots.
Title: Re: turn down auto ack/eliminate half of the guns on all fields
Post by: EagleDNY on July 09, 2017, 06:53:03 PM
-1 AAA is already too light. The only reasonably accurate AAA lethality is over a BB group.