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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: thrila on July 16, 2017, 02:18:56 PM
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I think it's fair given it's similar in size to a fighter.
It will likely make this aircraft a tad more survivable by not sticking out like a sore thumb on radar.
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Frankly I want to see icon size based on the size of the aircraft contact and nothing else. As it is now a box of B-29s and a single TBM show the same icon on radar, and that is not how it was. Give me size of the aircraft and some indication of whether it is low, med, or high.
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And perk the Hurricane :old:
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The icon should indicate drones formation. Makes sense game-wise and historically-wise.
A single SBD, TBM, A20, Mosquito B.XVI, B5N, JU87, etc should not be distinguished from a fighter. I dont mind that player that forgo the drones and take a single heavy bomber enjoy the same annonymity.
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I think it's fair given it's similar in size to a fighter.
It will likely make this aircraft a tad more survivable by not sticking out like a sore thumb on radar.
the stuka is classified as a Bomber/Attack plane. that's what it has a large icon, as do all the bombers.
and I think it's classified as a bomber because of its payload loadout.
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The icon should indicate drones formation. Makes sense game-wise and historically-wise.
A single SBD, TBM, A20, Mosquito B.XVI, B5N, JU87, etc should not be distinguished from a fighter. I dont mind that player that forgo the drones and take a single heavy bomber enjoy the same annonymity.
these planes are not fighters, they are bombers, they are classified as bomber or bomber/attack. not because HTC wants them that way, but that's what they are historically. SBD's and TBM's and JU87's don't have drones.
there is a Mosquito that's a fighter/attack= fighter icon----there's a Mosquito that's a pure bomber no guns= bomber icon.
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And perk the Hurricane :old:
which one there are 4- hurri 1 hurri 2 hurri IID and the SEA HUrricane MK1
But -1 to all
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the stuka is classified as a Bomber/Attack plane. that's what it has a large icon, as do all the bombers.
and I think it's classified as a bomber because of its payload loadout.
Nope, the D3A is a bomber and it can take a single 250 kg bomb plus two average sized rocks. Far less than most jabos. Bomber icon has nothing to do with bomb load.
Add cannons to the stuka and it has no longer a bomber icon.... (same for the mossie)
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which one there are 4- hurri 1 hurri 2 hurri IID and the SEA HUrricane MK1
But -1 to all
A plane that has a K/D of 5.2 must be perked, its clearly overmodeled.
Checked your stats Thrila and holy mother of... Now i dont feel bad anymore for being killed by your Hurricane while in the stuka..
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Limiting the icon to a spit or a b17 is probably a game play concession and to keep you from not being on alert to the incoming con. Ain't interested it's just a single engine or everyone goes after the easy kill while a box of B26 finishes off your town and you loose your field. You have the potential based on "wants" in this post for a single engine bomber icon, twin engine and four engine. Then two more for box mode with the twin and four engine.
By giving you that much detail, it's not any different than giving you a single bomber icon and allowing an information flag to popup when you hover your mouse on the single bomber icon. Think of what that would do for fighter combat since Hitech probably would do the flag popup for both icon types. And then a group would start wanting Alt included in the bomber flag so they can avoid wasting time climbing or know they are about to get three tree top level free kills. Bomber guys would catch on to that after awhile.
In an open world sand box like ours, too much info is not conducive to players getting off their tower kesters and generating activity. Now they would have a movable menu to be picky about getting involved.
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Its not about adding more icon, its about letting small single engine bombers to have the fighter icon. They are more comparable to JABO:s like the P-38 than bombers and do not deserve the extra attention of a bomber icon.
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This type of wish has already been posted almost as soon as AH3 went live.
I was expanding on the theme with the other posters since the wish has been posted for a medium bomber icon. Bozon was going in a natural direction with is wish.
As for single engine attack planes tagged with the bomber Icon. Something about that is meaningful to Hitech unless there is a type flag in the identity code that simplifies his work in this area of coding. I wondered during the alpha testing if using a fighter and bomber icon instead of dots wasn't going to get Hitech demands for changes. Remember in AH2 one of the changes was that you could hover the mouse over the red dot and get info? So in AH3 we got a fighter and bomber icon.
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Its obvious that every plane listed as bomber have the bomber icon. But we can still wish.
I have an idea that selecting 'attack' in the hangar gives you a fighter icon, but at the same time disables drones so for twin engine bombers you could get a fighter icon if you go without drones. 4 engine bombers will Always have the bomber icon.
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these planes are not fighters, they are bombers, they are classified as bomber or bomber/attack. not because HTC wants them that way, but that's what they are historically. SBD's and TBM's and JU87's don't have drones.
there is a Mosquito that's a fighter/attack= fighter icon----there's a Mosquito that's a pure bomber no guns= bomber icon.
You describe how it currently works.
We are discussing how it should be.
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The icon should indicate drones formation. Makes sense game-wise and historically-wise.
A single SBD, TBM, A20, Mosquito B.XVI, B5N, JU87, etc should not be distinguished from a fighter. I dont mind that player that forgo the drones and take a single heavy bomber enjoy the same annonymity.
I would not appose it if all similar aircraft similar in size/performace of the Ju 87 also has fighter icons as per your suggestion. I do not mind either way for the larger aircraft such as the mossie and A20.
A plane that has a K/D of 5.2 must be perked, its clearly overmodeled.
Checked your stats Thrila and holy mother of... Now i dont feel bad anymore for being killed by your Hurricane while in the stuka..
I have been getting to grips with the hurri 1 in preparation for the upcoming Battle of Britain event- and to be honest I've been flying it fairly conservatively, hence the high stats.
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Nope, the D3A is a bomber and it can take a single 250 kg bomb plus two average sized rocks. Far less than most jabos. Bomber icon has nothing to do with bomb load.
Add cannons to the stuka and it has no longer a bomber icon.... (same for the mossie)
you better check again, The Stuka D3 is classified as Bomber/Attack.
now if we had the JU87-D5 had 20mm but would still be considered bomber/attack.
the TU-2's are classified at bomber/attack and have 2 forward firing 20mm cannons.
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you better check again, The Stuka is classified as Bomber/Attack
You are saying that the Ju 87G-2 is classified as Bomber/Attack?
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You are saying that the Ju 87G-2 is classified as Bomber/Attack?
now the OP did not specify D3 or G2
G2 is classified as attack. never noticed if it has a bomber icon or not.
but I will agree if he is talking about JU87-G2 then it shouldn't have bomber icon
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Then why should the D-3 have it? Its the same plane but one have cannons under the wings.. And the only thing that differs the Stuka from a fighter is the dive brakes, it can dive in a steeper angle but other than that its like a fighter, just a lot worse. you point the nose at the target and use the gun sight to bomb.
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Take an F6F with 2 1000 lb bombs - get a fighter icon. Take a D3A with a single 250Kg - get a bomber icon. Radar contacts need to be classified by their SIZE alone - the radar operator gets a reflection based on size, not payload or armament.
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Take an F6F with 2 1000 lb bombs - get a fighter icon. Take a D3A with a single 250Kg - get a bomber icon. Radar contacts need to be classified by their SIZE alone - the radar operator gets a reflection based on size, not payload or armament.
Radar operator get a very very rough estimate of size and even that is a "radar cross section" and not real size. It varies wildly even with a small change of aspect angle.
A radar operator can usually tell a formation from a single plane even if the planes are flying a close formation - depending somewhat on the formation size and its orientation relative to the radar. It makes most sense, both from realism and gameplay aspects to tie the bomber icon to drone formation - if you had the formation tick box ticked in the hangar you get a large icon, otherwise you get a small icon even if you fly a single lancaster.
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Death to all Stukas! :airplane:
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4-engine planes should be singled out with big radar signatures imo, else we will see high single b29s, as fighter size targets,that do quite some damage with their bomb load.