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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: captain1ma on August 06, 2017, 12:25:46 PM
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Attack on Pearl harbor
Greetings all, this setup is to test out some static
ships courtesy of Ghost dancer. this is a new pearl
harbor terrain so please, expect problems. its not
finished at this time. jump in, blow stuff up
destroy ships, just let us know in the AVA forum,
how much bombs and what affects it had,
IE 1 torpedo killed 2 ships, that sort of thing.
please keep us aware of your frame rates and let
us know if thats a problem. PLease understand
this is a work and progress and weird things can
happen. thanks again to ghost dancer for the ships.
The attack on Pearl Harbor was a surprise military
strike conducted by the Imperial Japanese Navy
against the United States naval base at Pearl
Harbor, Hawaii, on the morning of December 7, 1941
(December 8 in Japan). The attack was intended as
a preventive action in order to keep the U.S. Pacific
Fleet from interfering with military actions the
Empire of Japan was planning in Southeast Asia
against overseas territories of the United
Kingdom, the Netherlands, and the United States.
allies(Bishops):
A20(A1 only)
B17(A1 only)
F4-F
P40C
SBD
Axis(Knights):
A6m2
B5N
D3A
Vox--123 both sides
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Didn't the Germans bomb pearl?
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(https://media.tenor.co/images/6ed212c36fcd15413ed64c29e7fb7421/tenor.gif)
Didn't the Germans bomb pearl?
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Adolf Galland led the first wave of Focke Wulfs and sunk the USS Maine.
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While the Soviet submarine 'Red October' filmed it from the harbor entrance.
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I'm available all week and will volunteer to help out. Just contact me and let me know what you need done.
Kimo
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Thanks. We've talked about trying to gather a bunch of people Tuesday night around 9pm Eastern time but it's not official until Jaeger says so.
:cheers:
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I'm in.
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Join us!! Tuesday August 8, 2017 at 9pm EST we're going to blow up, or defend pearl harbor. bring your friends, bring your enemy's!!! Jaeger kill score extra bonus sheep. come one, come all!!
join us and help test ghost dancers new terrain and have some fun at the same time
Tuesday August 8, 2017 at 9pm EST in the AVA arena.
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I flew around the north west coast of kauai and around pearl harbor. Frame rates doped to 30 if zoomed on town. Flying over the port in pearl frame rate tanked below twenty. Solid 59 over water and some variety of 50 around the napali coast.
:salute
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Thanks NatCigg for the testing. Yeah Pearl Harbor is has a lot that can affect frame rate of machines ... the port and a lot of ships when you are low altitude. Haven't removed the trees all around Pearl yet but unfortunately mimicing Pearl and it ships might be rough on some machines.
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Flying the B5N2 around and dropping some Torpedoes. :airplane:
The first Battleship in the double row I am unable to hit as the torpedo disappears before impact with ship. I've tried several times. The next ship back I have no problem hitting. May be a bug.
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Thanks for feedback Slate. Not sure why torps won't hit the first ship in double row. Only thing I can figure is the depth is different near the two ships. The first ship on the outside of the double row is in 52 feet of water. A torp track goes from 100 ft to 52ft on that one. While the second ship is at 84 ft of water. Both ships sit at altitude of 0.
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That was fun, thanks for having us Jaeger.
At first none of the ships ack guns were firing. Later they were.
On my first few runs I wans't doing any damage. Later I took out some gun emplacements with a torp.
I was unable to sink a ship with up to 4 torps.
Then I think the hard gun value was changed and torps started working.
The terrain looked good to me, but others were seeing elevation anomalies like ships floating in the air.
Except for the ships floating in air, I think the rest of it was settings based. :neener:
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I had weapon lethality turned down and that caused torps not to work. fixed that problem by setting it back to 1.0 but then it sank both ships with one shot again.
did find that the Ack would not fire right after I reset all the ships back to floating. that I haven't figured out.
thanks to everyone that jumped in tonight. it was a fun time. thanks to all for helping Ghost dancer and the AVA staff test this terrain.
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After jaeger fixed the torpedoes I was able to sink destroyers and cruisers with one PT torpedo (he allowed friendly damage for testing purposes). However, there were certain ships where the torpedo would disappear before hitting. This was totally reproducible. One example was the DD docked in the port and the CA and DD close to the port as well as a couple of CA near the center island. Could it be that these ships are in too shallow water, or too close to shore and the code disables torpedoes when they get in shallow water or close to shore?
I also saw floating off-shore task forces when flying in certain attitude/altitude combinations.
Also, when some enemy were saying they couldn't see the ships in Pearl firing at them I could clearly see the ship ack tracers from the port tower.
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Thanks everyone for help testing. In regards to the floating ships which set were they?
The 5 DDs to the NE of Ford? The ships in Battleship row? The ships on the other side of Ford? The DD and Cruiser in the port? Or the ships in the channel between Ford and just south of the port?
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I believe it was the carriers we were taking off from that were out at sea and not your ships in the harbor. Someone correct me if I"m wrong.
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Ah, gotcha ... will go check those out. Thanks.
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Frame rates were good for me, never went below 59. The only issue I had that was not addressed yet was the Pearl terrain appeared to be floating above the the water when I climbed to altitude to dive bomb the fleet.
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Hey DmdJJ can you be a little more specific? What do you mean by Pearl Terrain? Was it Ford Island appeared like it was floating above the water when you were at what alt? Or the port?
Thanks appreciated the help.
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It (floating ships) was the task force out at sea, as viewed from Pearl Harbor from a long distance.
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715 couple of questions.
Do you remember the number of the task force?
Second you mean it looked light floating when on the horizon but once you got closed to it (coming in for landing approach) then it looked fine or still looked like it was floating?
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Hey DmdJJ can you be a little more specific? What do you mean by Pearl Terrain? Was it Ford Island appeared like it was floating above the water when you were at what alt? Or the port?
Thanks appreciated the help.
Ford Island looked as if it was floating. It would move opposite of aircraft movement. If I pushed the nose down, the island would move upward to where I could see the water under the land. When I pulled the nose up it would move back down. Turn left and the island would rotate to the right and vise versa.
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715 couple of questions.
Don't remember the number, but yes the problem showed when it was near the horizon. I never got close (I'm allergic to ack).
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Attack on Pearl harbor
Greetings all, this setup is to test out some static
ships courtesy of Ghost dancer. this is a new pearl
harbor terrain so please, expect problems. its not
finished at this time. jump in, blow stuff up
destroy ships, just let us know in the AVA forum,
how much bombs and what affects it had,
IE 1 torpedo killed 2 ships, that sort of thing.
please keep us aware of your frame rates and let
us know if thats a problem. PLease understand
this is a work and progress and weird things can
happen. thanks again to ghost dancer for the ships.
The attack on Pearl Harbor was a surprise military
strike conducted by the Imperial Japanese Navy
against the United States naval base at Pearl
Harbor, Hawaii, on the morning of December 7, 1941
(December 8 in Japan). The attack was intended as
a preventive action in order to keep the U.S. Pacific
Fleet from interfering with military actions the
Empire of Japan was planning in Southeast Asia
against overseas territories of the United
Kingdom, the Netherlands, and the United States.
allies(Bishops):
A20(A1 only)
B17(A1 only)
F4-F
P40C
SBD
Axis(Knights):
A6m2
B5N
D3A
Vox--123 both sides
I may just have to get that and drive a jeep around to look at it :) You're trying to tempt me out of retirement aren't you? :D
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I may just have to get that and drive a jeep around to look at it :) You're trying to tempt me out of retirement aren't you?
Jaeger has a special ewe for ewe.
- oldman
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Dichotomy, if you're gonna come back, I will make sure there are jeeps in there JUST FOR YOU!!! and some special sheepses too!
thanks again to everyone for posting their findings in here for ghost dancer, and for helping teach me a lesson or 2 about the settings. where ROC when I need him?!!!!
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I tried it out a couple days ago. Initial spawn I was to the northeast corner. Two glaring items. Both of the airfields from surface to about 5,000 feet had a jittering appearance of opposing lines over the terrain. On the two town islands, the shadows of trees jittered continuously from any angle at lower altitudes.
Also tried out the carriers. On the deck, the top of the carrier and surrounding ship antennas flickered continuously from the surface to about a 1,000 feet.
I also noticed when approaching Ford Island from the south shore area it appeared to be a mud flat in the middle of the harbor. I landed there. It was smooth.
Nice effect having the A-20s parked outside the hangars. :aok
I've got a gtx 1070 graphics card and all the graphics settings to the full on side of the scales. FR was a constant 59-60.
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ghostdancer if you're going to put in some more updates, ill put the terrain back up this week, for testing?
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Puma thanks for the input.
Yeah, I made Ford Island a mud flat since basically it is covered by buildings and asphalt and etc. and not really a place that has grass. I just can't load it down with buildings without causing possible issues. Glad you enjoyed the planes placed by the hangars on the island.
As for the tree shadows being jittery and the fleets that is interesting but not sure what I can do about that since basically everything else on the terrain was the normal default stuff and I didn't do anything special outside of building some custom fleet types instead of the 1 CV, 1 CA, and 4 DD configuration.
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What do you think is causing the tree shadows to jitter like that? That's something new I've never seen.
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Truthfully, I am not sure. They only thing I can think of is maybe it is a mix of terrain types. You can paint an area in the terrain editor with 50% of one terrain type and 50% of another. I was going to to go and change things to grass terrain around Pearl Harbor and the nearby bases anyways since I know at low altitude trees do impact Frame Rates. And the attack on Pearl would have a lot of people on the deck.
So maybe that will resolve things.
The issue with the fleets have me puzzled as I said. I have also hear reports of them seeming to float above the water when viewed from a distance. The current fleets in the terrain are a hold over from them the AH2 version of the terrain when we hand build the fleets by placing ships individually and then grouping them together. I wondering if something strange is going on there so I might yank them out and just put in the standard fleet groups to see if that resolves the report visually anomalies.
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Always something to tweak isn't there? :D I was going to suggest adding grass, since Hawaii does have a fair amount of it. All in all, a nice effort! :aok
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It may have been the fog setting causing the floating fleet and land. I think I noticed it was set at a further distant out, as typical of testing rather then for a live terrain. I did not check the settings when I was in the arena. Kicking up the distances above the default is sop for me when first loading a terrain.
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WOW I have not been flying much. I really missed out.
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It will be up again for another round after I make changes based on the testing.
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just say the word i'll help test again. :aok