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Title: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: icepac on August 24, 2017, 12:22:26 PM
Harvey has experienced the quickening.

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Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: BBQsam on August 24, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Where is the center supposed to hit?
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Volron on August 24, 2017, 11:16:15 PM
It won't get to San Antonio.  Storms avoid this place like it's a giant dog turn. :P
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Hajo on August 24, 2017, 11:37:52 PM
Shuffler is in Houston I believe.  Also a couple squad mates Vudu15 and Hand live in Texas.  Anyway, I wish the best of luck to those who live along the Gulf in every state that will be affected.

And...........don't do anything stupid.  If city and state officials tell you to leave............leave.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Volron on August 24, 2017, 11:48:59 PM
Yeah, if I were in Corpus, I'd be in San Antonio or Austin already.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Skuzzy on August 25, 2017, 06:38:22 AM
My folks live in Corpus Christi.  They are all boarded up and ready.  Corpus is one of the few cities which is well prepared for hurricanes.  110MPH winds are really not worrying them too much.  If it gets over 150MPH, then they sweat it.

I grew up there and went through three of those big monsters.  The surfing was always great then. :)  Now, if you live on the island, you better get out of there, even if it is a small hurricane.

What they do worry about are the tornadoes which follow a hurricane.  This one looks like it is going to be a light one, in that regard.
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Post by: MiloMorai on August 25, 2017, 08:27:09 AM
Didn't Corpus Christi almost get wiped off the map about 100 years ago from a hurricane?
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Skuzzy on August 25, 2017, 08:47:49 AM
I have no idea about that.  A lot changed in the last 100 years, if that is the case.  The worst one I went through was Celia in 1970.  It caught everyone flat footed as it was only a mild storm (about 90MPH winds) but then did something no other hurricane has ever done.

After crossing Padre Island it underwent an intensification no other hurricane has done and shot to 135MPH sustained winds with micro bursts over 190MPH in the trailing western edge of the storm.  It was devastating.

One of a kind.  I was braced against a glass sliding door with a mattress behind me for 14 hours to keep the door from blowing in.  I watched our neighbors house, quite literally, explode.  In seconds there was nothing there, but a concrete slab and I was 50 miles inland at a lake house at the time.

Our home in Corpus was destroyed.  No one was hurt as we had a storm cellar everyone got into.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: pwooly on August 25, 2017, 10:49:04 AM
Center is supposed to hit at Rockport, TX just a bit north of Corpus Christi, TX. The worse of the rain bands are expected to hit Houston, which is where I live along with some others here in the game. The storm then goes back out along the coast and hits Houston as a tropical storm. Houston is expecting 30 plus inches of rain over the weekend and early next week. It's a category 2 hurricane, expected to be a category 4 by landfall. Godspeed and stay safe to everyone effected.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Maverick on August 25, 2017, 11:06:31 AM
I'm now up NW of San Antonio so since 200 miles inland not expecting much but rain. Sat out Isaac in Louisiana in our RV. Since we were on the west side of the eye all we got was some moderate winds (45-55 MPH) and a ton of rain even though the eye passed about 15 miles to the east. Biggest problem was losing power, no AC for 3 days and it was freaking hot. My little generator couldn't handle the AC unit.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Mister Fork on August 25, 2017, 12:25:07 PM
Looks like it's suppose to slam into Corpus Christi? It's a Cat 3 now? Second landfall if it swoops back out?
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Post by: Traveler on August 25, 2017, 02:42:29 PM
Was wondering where the HTC Server farm was located???  Power outages can be very wide spread.  Wish everyone luck.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Skuzzy on August 25, 2017, 03:18:52 PM
We are 400 miles North of Corpus Christi.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: ghi on August 25, 2017, 03:21:23 PM
Should be visible on ISS live cameras in about one hour, next orbit passes over Texas/ Gulf of Mexico.
http://www.n2yo.com/space-station/

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Human_Spaceflight/International_Space_Station/Where_is_the_International_Space_Station
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Arlo on August 25, 2017, 04:34:03 PM
My folks live in Corpus Christi.  They are all boarded up and ready.  Corpus is one of the few cities which is well prepared for hurricanes.  110MPH winds are really not worrying them too much.  If it gets over 150MPH, then they sweat it.

I grew up there and went through three of those big monsters.  The surfing was always great then. :)  Now, if you live on the island, you better get out of there, even if it is a small hurricane.

What they do worry about are the tornadoes which follow a hurricane.  This one looks like it is going to be a light one, in that regard.

Spent some of my childhood on the base there. Weathered Celia back in `70. Seemed fun to 8 yr old me. We stayed in the armory (on base) during te storm. Celia took out the newer officer and chief family housing. We lived in the older asbestos shingled duplexes. The rug tiles (remember those?) got soaked and most needed replacing. We lost out TV antenna and screen door. The SA5 soap mom and dad (they tried Amway distribution) stored in my room did o foam job on that room and the little hallway. This was three months or so after the Lubbock tornado hit (missing relatives there).
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: icepac on August 25, 2017, 06:27:40 PM
Category 4 as of this moment.

Le's hope it doesn't linger.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Pudgie on August 25, 2017, 07:09:11 PM
My daughter lives in Houston & she has retreated to her apartment to ride it out.

She rode out Rita a few years back............she's a Houstonian now she tells me........

Houston proper doesn't handle a lot of water on the ground very well so there's bound to be some pretty bad flooding going on.............

Hopefully Harvey will take a trek that will miss a lot of folks.

 :pray

 :salute
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Zimme83 on August 26, 2017, 10:14:07 AM
My folks live in Corpus Christi.  They are all boarded up and ready.  Corpus is one of the few cities which is well prepared for hurricanes.  110MPH winds are really not worrying them too much.  If it gets over 150MPH, then they sweat it.

I grew up there and went through three of those big monsters.  The surfing was always great then. :)  Now, if you live on the island, you better get out of there, even if it is a small hurricane.

What they do worry about are the tornadoes which follow a hurricane.  This one looks like it is going to be a light one, in that regard.

Got up to a Cat 4 hurricane and 130mph sustained winds before landfall. Down to a cat 1 hurricane now but flooding seems to be the major issue.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Maverick on August 26, 2017, 10:23:12 AM
Just now starting to get the leading edge of rain at my location, 200 miles inland. A little wind, maybe 25 to 30 MPH and sprinkles so far. The weather channel said it got to cat 4 just as it hit Corpus Christi. Some significant damage there. The wife spent some time living in Corpus and said she doesn't recognize anything there any more after a couple hurricanes hit there about 50 years ago. Most of the old buildings from that time (residences and light commercial) were taken out.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Skuzzy on August 27, 2017, 06:55:39 AM
Between Celia in 1972 and Alicia in 1983, the city was pretty much rebuilt.

The folks tell me they lost a tree limb.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: NatCigg on August 27, 2017, 09:13:54 AM
this storm is very interesting, a stranded tropical low.  how would you like to have a hurricane over your house, for a week!

 :confused:

yesterdays gfs had the low sitting down there....forever, until it just fills in (2 weeks +).  you guys like rain?
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: thndregg on August 27, 2017, 09:19:23 AM
My folks live in Corpus Christi.  They are all boarded up and ready.  Corpus is one of the few cities which is well prepared for hurricanes.  110MPH winds are really not worrying them too much.  If it gets over 150MPH, then they sweat it.

I grew up there and went through three of those big monsters.  The surfing was always great then. :)  Now, if you live on the island, you better get out of there, even if it is a small hurricane.

What they do worry about are the tornadoes which follow a hurricane.  This one looks like it is going to be a light one, in that regard.

I have wanted to head down thataway and check out my uncle's ship, the Lexington. Saw a short clip on their FB page of them bringing everything below for the storm.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: BoilerDown on August 27, 2017, 10:13:16 AM
Just posted by Reed Timmer: https://www.facebook.com/reedtimmerAccu/videos/pcb.10155729826329169/10155729823539169
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: NatCigg on August 27, 2017, 10:29:33 AM
I assume that's a backed up drain with a good head.  Oh man.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Zimme83 on August 27, 2017, 12:13:56 PM
30 inches of rain, that is a lot of water..

Edit: Seems like this might be just as bad as Katrina, There is no way you can prepare yourself for those amount of water..
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: ghi on August 27, 2017, 11:29:25 PM
Interesting drone videos i just watched on other site; lots of damage ; :pray eclipses are bad omen.

https://youtu.be/jUucaO6FfNA

https://youtu.be/bjQS5q2l41Q

https://youtu.be/XRdUV4WqnDE

https://youtu.be/2JuSrDF4bmo

https://youtu.be/rBn2_zC_9as

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4827474/Five-feared-dead-Hurricane-Harvey-floods-sweep-Texas.html
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: pwooly on August 28, 2017, 12:32:30 PM
Most of my family had to Evacuate under mandatory orders. They released the levees and dams from the Brazos river that runs near my neighborhood. I will be affected but no mandatory evacuation as of yet. Water in the front street has gone down so that's a good sign. Rain has not let up since Friday. Been off and on most of the time. Saturday night was probably the worst thunderstorms I've seen in my life. Absolutely no words can express what my city of Houston is going through. Just devastation. Godspeed everyone.

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ULWooly
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Skuzzy on August 28, 2017, 12:59:18 PM
Be safe down there.  It certainly is a mess.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: ghi on August 28, 2017, 01:17:24 PM
Houston man catches fish in home flooded by Hurricane Harvey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxbj4JcTfQM

Texas woman finds two alligators in her flooded backyard :uhoh :bolt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdgspx_MgOY


Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Drano on August 28, 2017, 01:39:03 PM
I noticed the one where the is catching fish in his house that the lights are on. That means he still has electricity. The water is about an inch from the receptacles in that room. Can we say electrocution?

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Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: BBQsam on August 28, 2017, 03:14:29 PM
Interesting image

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from:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/28/16211392/100-500-year-flood-meaning





How an AHer would view the Houston flooding:

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ps    Everyone in Texas   STAY SAFE
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Traveler on August 28, 2017, 03:40:45 PM
I noticed the one where the is catching fish in his house that the lights are on. That means he still has electricity. The water is about an inch from the receptacles in that room. Can we say electrocution?

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The water will short out the receptacles and the fuse will go.  At least that what happens most of the time.  Could see some shorted electric boxes causing fires in homes.  That what happened to some flooded homes during Sandy , what wasn't underwater was on fire.  I lost my home to Sandy due to Ocean waves ,  house ended up in Sandy Hook bay NJ.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Shuffler on August 28, 2017, 08:06:45 PM
I'm east of Houston, little place called Highlands Texas.

In this home 28 years and never flooded till this storm. I have 4 inches of water in my home. Many down here much much worse.

My family is fine and the wife and I are staying in our RV. Have had flood insurance all my adult life but never used it till now.

Going to be awhile getting my home back in order. Probably will be on boards but not in game. I will keep my account up to support AH though. I didnt come this far with those folks to jump ship. Which you would not do in all this water anyway.

I'll be around....
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: ghi on August 28, 2017, 09:13:31 PM
Be safe Shuffler!  :pray
I just watched the news story about Addicks dam, NW of Houston, i understand the waters could reach the fail level this evening https://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?site_no=08073000.   I just checked your area out of curiosity on google Earth, you are just downhill, and low elevation, google Earth shows 38 ft above sea level  few miles south from Houston lake dam, was designed and  built in 50s maybe weak, i would consider evacuating to higher ground.
 Look what's there, still raining crazy,like in the days of Noah http://www.weather.gov/hgx/ this dams could fail without warning in the middle of the night. And i understand Harvey is strengthening, the low pressure area moved over Gulf waters gaining momentum. https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/2017/08/28/233415/battered-by-harvey-houston-braces-for-even-more-flooding/

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/water-gushes-from-dam-near-houston?pl=pl-hurricane-harvey

Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: donna43 on August 29, 2017, 02:38:44 AM
I have no idea about that.  A lot changed in the last 100 years, if that is the case.  The worst one I went through was Celia in 1970.  It caught everyone flat footed as it was only a mild storm (about 90MPH winds) but then did something no other hurricane has ever done.

After crossing Padre Island it underwent an intensification no other hurricane has done and shot to 135MPH sustained winds with micro bursts over 190MPH in the trailing western edge of the storm.  It was devastating.

One of a kind.  I was braced against a glass sliding door with a mattress behind me for 14 hours to keep the door from blowing in.  I watched our neighbors house, quite literally, explode.  In seconds there was nothing there, but a concrete slab and I was 50 miles inland at a lake house at the time.

Our home in Corpus was destroyed.  No one was hurt as we had a storm cellar everyone got into.
Me too, lived in Portland at the time, now in Austin got 11" according to my rain gauge. Watched the neighbor across the street roof blow off and the only damage my house got was my bedroom window being blown out.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Traveler on August 29, 2017, 09:49:43 AM
I'm east of Houston, little place called Highlands Texas.

In this home 28 years and never flooded till this storm. I have 4 inches of water in my home. Many down here much much worse.

My family is fine and the wife and I are staying in our RV. Have had flood insurance all my adult life but never used it till now.

Going to be awhile getting my home back in order. Probably will be on boards but not in game. I will keep my account up to support AH though. I didnt come this far with those folks to jump ship. Which you would not do in all this water anyway.

I'll be around....

I lived in Highlands NJ on Sandy Hook Bay for 35 years, must be something about the town name Highlands...   Good luck.  Sandy was 2012, I finally settled with both the Flood and Home Owners Insurance companies in July of 2016.  They fought me on every item and every nickle.  Had to take them to court.  They settled one hour before the trial started.   
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Randy1 on August 29, 2017, 01:39:56 PM
Been through a flood.  Some tips on recovery after the water goes down.  Get those walls open if you can.  Cut sheet rock above the water line but remember you have to replace it so minimize just hacking away.  Plan on replacing all receptacles below water line.

Scam artist will be coming.  Watch out for contractors that say, "I need a deposit so I can buy materials."

Or "I am working for your neighbor and they suggested I ask if I can do your repairs".  We had a guy show up at our door and said this after the tornado hit our house.  My neighbor had not sent anyone over.

In Savannah after the hurricane, many news stories about tree removal scams.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Shuffler on August 29, 2017, 03:41:37 PM
Been through a flood.  Some tips on recovery after the water goes down.  Get those walls open if you can.  Cut sheet rock above the water line but remember you have to replace it so minimize just hacking away.  Plan on replacing all receptacles below water line.

Scam artist will be coming.  Watch out for contractors that say, "I need a deposit so I can buy materials."

Or "I am working for your neighbor and they suggested I ask if I can do your repairs".  We had a guy show up at our door and said this after the tornado hit our house.  My neighbor had not sent anyone over.

In Savannah after the hurricane, many news stories about tree removal scams.

Let them scam artist come and visit. I'm wearing a 45 on my hip while talking to anyone who comes by.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Shuffler on August 31, 2017, 08:54:52 PM
Ok the rain gauge within 1 mile of my home read 51.88 inches. That is the most rain to fall in recorded history in the US. No wonder I had water in my home.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: mbailey on September 01, 2017, 12:35:31 PM
Headed down for work Wednesday or Thursday this coming week (Large Loss Property Insurance Adjuster) I was down for Katrina as well....One thing I will say, ive seen it on TV and been there in real life, its usually 5times worse than what you see on TV.

Having been in the business of drying houses and rebuilding them from all sorts of insured losses (fire, water,mold,tornado, Hurricanes etc) ...in a situation where the water is a foot or under, we would do a "flood cut" Run a chalk line at 2ft off the floor and snap it.....with 2ft removed, you can get a 4x8 or 4x12 sheet of sheetrock, and cut it right down the middle, You now have 16 or 24 linear ft of drywall...Its the best way to utilize your materials, plus its insurance against any water that may have wicked up the sheetrock. Any higher than a foot / foot and a half...we would just take it to 4ft.

Shuffler, if you (or anyone here) have any questions, Insurance / Remediation don't hesitate to reach out to me....Ive been in the industry of disasters for 25yrs...pretty good on the ins and outs.

I do know this, If there is such a thing as reincarnation, I want to come back as a Texan....You folks really are amazing, and a site to behold. I saw an interview with a 15yrold, that was running his boat saving people, and the news guy interviewing him told him he was a hero....The young man just looked back at him and said very matter of factly "Im not a hero, Im a Texan"
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Hajo on September 01, 2017, 12:50:12 PM
Shuff glad to see you and your family are in good order.  Be safe!  Don't do anything stupid. 
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Randy1 on September 01, 2017, 01:31:50 PM

. . ..Having been in the business of drying houses and rebuilding them from all sorts of insured losses (fire, water,mold,tornado, Hurricanes etc) ...in a situation where the water is a foot or under, we would do a "flood cut" Run a chalk line at 2ft off the floor and snap it.....with 2ft removed, you can get a 4x8 or 4x12 sheet of sheetrock, and cut it right down the middle, You now have 16 or 24 linear ft of drywall...Its the best way to utilize your materials, plus its insurance against any water that may have wicked up the sheetrock. Any higher than a foot / foot and a half...we would just take it to 4ft. . . .


That is exactly how I did it.  Be careful and remove wood paneling.  Get those walls open, remove that insulation if wet. 

Another thing.  Plan on replacing all wall outlets below the water line while the walls are down.  They will crap out in the near future.

Also make you a short, ground fault detection extension cord with a couple of outlets to plug power equipment and other extension cords into.  Buy one if you can find one.
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Zimme83 on September 01, 2017, 02:06:31 PM
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Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: ghi on September 01, 2017, 09:07:23 PM
People are not done cleaning after Harvey,  another hurricane growing strong in the in Atlantic .  :pray   From i read in news today, Irma seems to be even stronger, some models show to impact Florida/Georgia others to follow Sandy's path turn into cat 5,  hit Philadelphia , NY/NJ area for September 9-10th; still to far for an accurate forecast.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-48.62,22.53,1282/loc=-46.770,37.488

https://twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/903731573274533896

https://twitter.com/hurrtrackerapp/status/903354979313995776

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/11L_gefs_latest.png

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2017090118/gfs_mslp_wind_eus_36.png

https://twitter.com/paulythegun/status/903746498218876928
Title: Re: Harvey headed to south texas
Post by: Maverick on September 02, 2017, 10:33:08 AM
We have had relatively minor hurricane seasons the last few years. We are due for some major ones now.   :cry